Only 125 ETH? maybe just put 5 ETH into ICO

Have 1000 ETH? yes
Waste fees only, miners happy
ICO concept is still new, many people experimenting with various ways to satisfy everyone.

By definition, ICO is really just: "Hey guys, we want to build a really good product, here's a demo and our background info, read the whitepaper, join slack and ask away!"

Then they set a date to collect the funds from public, problem is, whales always come and ruin the party for everyone.

So gnosis tried reverse dutch auction, which failed

Now TenX is doing a presale for whales, so that public gets a better chance of getting in on the ICO.

First page guide covers all forms of ICOs, ultimately you need to know what you're buying into, caveat emptor.

Check out their YouTube vlog and don't be shy, they'll answer all your questions on slack.

thanks for the insight. My plan is to buy ETH and invest in these ICOs

I bought the Genesis ETH mining contract at 100MH/s for 2 years at USD2,715 (after 3% discount).

Cloud mining do not attract power cost nor maintenance fee for ethereum.

Here is the ROI computation at current price and mining difficulty.

directly buy ETH or BTC then convert?

essentially you are paying USD2715 for 2 years mining in exchange for an expected monthly income for usd723, breakeven is only 3.8 months, and 8 months later you have doubled your money, how on earth they are able to do that?

I smell money games structure here, please check are they even regulated.

Fuuuyo, BTC lending rate at 0.6%

Fuuuyo, BTC lending rate at 0.6%

dont temp me.. nooo...

i reserve usd2k standby to fish for correction price 

seems decent. before i saw lending rate was not very attractive........ 

Dear wengherng & WooTz, it has come to my attention that (Wah! So formal) there is currently a serious problem with the term "Bitcoin & Altcoin". As you all know, bitcoin is the father of cryptocurrencies and its children has risen high and far. This is particular true of ETH, rising through the ranks and making a name for itself. As such, I would formally like to request that ETH is not considered part of "altcoins" anymore and herein be termed as a coin by itself, just like bitcoin. As such, it would be appropriate to change the title of this thread to "Bitcoin, ETH and other cryptocurrencies", assuming you can squeeze all those words in. I'm sure WooTz would agree whole-heartedly. Yours sincerely, crazy hodler

Well, the term "altcoin" was used in the early days to denote every other cryptocurrency that is not bitcoin, so ETH by default *is* an altcoin.
By the way, it is also important to note that the term "altcoin" does NOT have any negative connotation to it......it doesn't mean that an altcoin is somehow inferior to bitcoin, nor does it mean that the coin with the highest market cap is the "main" coin while all others are "alternative" coins.
It's just a term of reference.

That said, however, I do get where you're coming from.

How about we dispense totally with the actual names of coins, and just call this thread the "Cryptocurrencies Thread"?
What say you?

Hello guys,

When is the expected date for the new tokens to be traded/listed on the major exchanges like Coinbase, Polo and Bittrex for

1) SONM
2) TenX
3) Bancor
4) KIN

Will there be an announcement by the exchanges or just follow the twitter feeds. TQVM

Haha. Just a thought. New comers only know about bitcoin. Just leave it as it is.

Haha. Just a thought. New comers only know about bitcoin. Just leave it as it is.

No worries.
I don't have a problem with changing the thread title, actually, if that's what everyone wants and if that's going to help spread awareness.

Cryptocurrencies thread seems fine