SOBER !!!....

Liked Chinese Said " Don't force the dog to the edge ".

" Moh Gone Chun Sat Juet".

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BELOW IS THE INTRODUCTION OF A REPORT WRITTEN BY MR DAVID LIM.

IT IS WIDELY CIRCULATED AND SHARE AMONG SWIFTLET FARMERS.







REPORT ON THE MALAYSIA SWIFTLET NEST INDUSTRY ISSUES.

RESEARCHED AND WRITTEN 2002 BY DAVID LIM Y.C. AND REVISED AND UPDATED ON 2005 AND 2008 TOGETHER WITH COMMITTEE MEMBERS OF THE PROTEMPT PERSATUAN PEMILIK RUMAH SARANG BURUNG MALAYSIA (THE MALAYSIA BIRD’S NEST HOUSE OWNER ASSOCIATION). (Nov 2008 updated) David Lim : 012-4850778


This report is the study, research and factual findings gathered from views, proposals, experiences, visions and information contributed by the various experts involved directly in the bird-nest industry. It depicts the present actual situation, the dilemma and problems faced with proposed solutions, the potential and the prospect of the industry.

The author welcomes and appreciates any further input made to him. No part of this report may be altered to deviate from its original meaning for any purpose or usage without the prior consent of the copyright owner.

The purpose of this report is to assist and enable those interested parties especially those who have never involved in this industry,such as the new investers, the government officials, the politicians etc to gain a first hand information, comprehensive knowledge and in-depth understanding about the whole bird-nest industry before deriving to making decision or conclusion.





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Only those paper that with hidden agenda that the writer will not dare to share.

Chionggau,

haha....do u think i am so dumb until i don't understand how internet work??

Of course i know this.

If u think ` swiftlet farmer guy' post is rough or inhuman...

I should gives you my email address password and you should go in n take alook the number of emails from my farmer friends who Talk Shit,
Fxxk Harry Kau kau his whole family....

I have adviced them not to be personal when we do anything.

And As I already said. Harry already got the message and we can stop it here.

( And as i always said Newbies do not feel the pain from all of us, THey still think the world is Bulat. In Malaysia, the world can be bulat, can be triangle, can be square....anything can happen. ).


We treat them liked animal when they act liked animal.


But we should not threaten other peoples family livelihood. This is wrong.

And To Earn a living by killing other peoples rice bowl is even more wrong.

I wish to end this here. it is enough, i think i have pass the message to enough farmers to warn them what is going to happen in kedah if no one stop him. I do not own any farms in Kedah. it will not affect me.

But it is this type of mindset that will eventual kill our community in Malaysia, `Kah Ki Ku Kah Ki'.....



Liked Mr David Lim, He don't own any farms in Penang, Why he will be the first one to jump out and fight for Penang Farmers???....

You think if he do everything by the book, it will help the penang farmers without angered any bad apples or any govt officers??.....


But frankly, i think i am not suitable for this.....i am only an ordinary farmer.

Peoples liked Mr David Lim is to be respected.....Man.....how he did it for the past 20 or 30 years doing this kind of thing everyday.....

GOOD GOD........

TO KEDAH FARMERS.....GOOD LUCK.

AND IF HARRY SUCCEEDED IN PRESENTING HIS PAPER TO KEDAH GOVT.......

TO MALAYSIA FARMERS......GOOD LUCK TOO.


AS FOR CHANK, HE WILL GO BACK N DO WHAT HE LIKES THE MOST....FARMING....


AND IF GOVT CLOSE DOWN ALL THE FARMS IN MALAYSIA. (IF THEY SUCCEED)....IT WILL NOT HARM ME EITHER...AS IT WILL ONLY AFFECT A SMALL PORTION OF MY PORTFOLIO.

I ALWAYS ADVISE ALL MY FRIENDS, DON'T KEEP ON INVESTING IN SWIFTLET FARMING.....ONE OR TWO IS MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR YOU TO ENJOY THE FUN OF MAINTAINING FARMS.......



IT IS FUN, LIKE NOW, WE ARE FIGHTING FOR OUR LIFE WITH THREE OWLs??

EVEN SHOPLOT TOO....AFFECTED BY OWLs.......WHEN YOU FOUND THEM FLY NEAR & FLY INSIDE YOUR FARM AND AFTER FEW MINUTES IT FLY OUT AND REPEAT THE PROCEDURE A FEW TIMES......WHILE U JUST STARE N COULD NOT DO ANYTHING UNTIL TOMORROW MORNING......

THATS THE FEELING........THAT NEWBIES CANNOT UNDERSTAND.....

THATS THE FEELING........THAT HARRY N TIROKS WILL NOT UNDERSTAND....

THATS THE FEELING........THAT GOVT WILL NOT CARES TO UNDERSTAND....







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This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 8 2009, 11:37 PM

THE ISSUE NOW IS VERY VERY ALARMING.

I HAVE MISTAKEN THAT THIS IS ALL ALONG ONLY KEDAH FARMS.

NOT THAT I DON'T CARE IF IT IS KEDAH FARMS...

BUT FROM LUCAS1 CONTACTS, THIS IS INDEED A NATIONAL ISSUES.

THE MUCH ANTICIPATED NATIONAL GUIDELINES OF SWIFTLET FARMING IN MALAYSIA HAVE BEEN PREPARED AND ARE IN THE STAGE OF PRESENTING IT TO ALL STATES AND ASK FOR THEIR VIEW.

BUT THE MOST SHOCKING REVELATION IS THAT

NONE OF THE BN ASSOCIATIONS IN MALAYSIA ARE GIVEN A COPY NOR INVITED TO ATTEND THE MEETING TO PRESENT THEIR VIEW ON GIVING 3 YEARS DEADLINE TO SHIFT ALL TOWN FARMS TO ECO PARK.

THE REASON OF NOT LETTING ANY BN ASSOCIATIONS TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE MEETING IS SOME PARTIES ARE TRYING TO SHUN ANY OBJECTIONS OF THE PLAN SHIFTTING.

INSTEAD THEY HAVE INVITED AN EXPERT ( OR HE COULD MOST PROBABLY HAD INVITED HIMSELF IN AS EXPERT) THAT WILL AGREE WITH THEM THAT SHIFTING THE TOWN FARMS IS WORKABLE SOLUTIONS.

SO BY THE TIME THE GUIDELINE IS OUT AND PUBLICISED, THEY WILL SAID THAT BN ASSOCIATIONS HAVE NOT OBJECTED THE GUIDELINES, AND THAT THESE GUIDELINE IS BEEN REVIEWED BY EXPERT, AND THE EXPERT HAD GIVEN THEM THE GREEN LIGHT THAT SHIFTING FARMS IS PRACTICALLY WORKABLE.

THIS IS NO LONGER AN ISSUE OF WHO DID IT, WHO TO BLAME ( THIS WE CAN DEALT WITH IT LATER ON).

BUT THE MOST URGENTLY NEEDED ACTION BY ALL FORUM MEMBERS THAT HAVE CONTACTS TO THEIR RESPECTIVE BN ASSOCIATIONS TO

PLEASE CALL THE PRESIDENTS, THE SECRETARY TO ASK THEM TO REQUEST A COPY OF THE DRAFTED GUIDELINE OF SF FROM GOVT DEPT TO READ IT.

AND TO PROTEST TO THE RESPECTIVE GOVT DEPTS TO VOICE YOUR PROTEST WHY GUIDELINE MEETING IS WITHOUT ANY OF THE BN REPRESENTATIVES.

LUCAS1 IS TRYING TO MAKE THE DRAFTED GUIDELINE INTO EBOOK OR PDF FILES TO SEND IT TO ALL PARTIES.

BUT WE NEED TO HELP HIM TO SPREAD THIS NEWS URGENTLY TO ALL BN ASSOCIATIONS, CHINESE MERCHANT CHAMBER PRESIDENTS OR SECRETARY, INDEPENDANT NEWSPAPER EDITORS.



PLEASE DO NOT DOUBLE DOUBTS US.

PLEASE HELP.


MAY GOD BLESS US WITH HIS MIGHTY POWER TO HELP US TO GET THROUGH THIS TSUNAMI !!!!!


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This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 9 2009, 05:43 PM

UNTIL NOW SOME FORUM MEMBERS STILL CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH HERE.

IT IS NOT WHO N WHO..

CHIONGGUO IF U HAVE CONTACTS WITH VET. DEPT HEAD THEN PLEASE SPREAD THIS NEWS TO HIM TO SEE IF HE CAN HELP!!!

I AM f***ING DAMN BORING THAT YOU STILL TALK LIKE WE ARE ONLY CONCERN ABOUT BUSINESS......f*** THE BUSINESS.

I DON'T NEED THE MEAGLE LITTLES MONEY FROM OUR BUS.

SO PLEASE DON'T MISLEAD OTHERS TO THINK THAT WE HAVE OTHER INTENTION TO TALK ABOUT HARRY.

IF THIS IS NOT AFFECTED U AS U MIGHT HAVE BUILD YR FARM IN AGRI LAND...THEN IT IS OK. GOOD FOR U.

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WE DON'T BLAME ANYONE WITHOUT FIRST GET THE INFORMATION FROM HIM.

IT IS TRUE THE SHIFTING DECISION IS INTHE DRAFT GUIDELINES . BUT THIS IS A DRAFT GUIDELINES SUBJECT TO DISCUSSION AND GETTING FEEDBACK FROM ALL AFFECTED PARTY.

BUT MR DAVID LIM HAD CALL HARRY AND MR HARRY IS SO PROUD OF HIMSELF THAT HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO IS BEEN INVITED TO ATTEND THE MEETING.

AND WHEN MR DAVID LIM EXPLAINED TO HIM THAT SHIFTING IS NOT POSSIBLE.

MR HARRY HAD INSTEAD TOLD MR DAVID LIM THAT ` THREE YEARS IS MORE THAN ENOUGH LAH .....'.

AND WHEN MR DAVID LIM WANT TO ASSIST HIM TO REVIEW HIS PRESENTATION SO THAT TO FIGHT FOR THE FARMERS RIGHTS AND TO INFORM THE GOVT THAT SHIFTING IS NOT AND SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE GUIDELINE, MR HARRY HAD STOP TAKE PHONE CALL FROM MR DAVID LIM.

SINCE MR TIROK CAN TALK SOME SENSES WITH MR HARRY, CAN YOU PLEASE ASK HIM TO CONTACT MR DAVID LIM TO CLARIFY THIS ISSUE.

NO ONE IS GAINING ANYTHING FROM THIS PROBLEM,

NO ONE GAIN AYTHING EXCEPT CRITICISM FOR BEING VOCAL AND TALK SHITS ABOUT OTHERS.

BUT THIS IS NOTHING COMPARES TO SEEING ALL ORDINARY FARMERS BEING FORCE TO BANKRUPTCY N SUICIDE WITH THE DEMOLITION OF THEIR FARMS.

YOU CAN BLAME ME FOR ALL THE WRONG DOING IN THIS FORUM...

I DON'T MIND, BUT PLEASE HELP IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO ASSIST ALL FARMERS IN MALAYSIA...



( In order not to distract anyone, i edit it out.)


BLAMING ME OR ANYTHING IS NOT IMPORTANT HERE.

WHAT WE NEED TO FOCUS IS THE MORE URGENT ISSUE OF THE NATIONAL GUIDELINES.


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Added on February 9, 2009, 8:54 pmPLEASE STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORY ONCE AND FOR ALL...

IF YOU THINK I HAVE OTHER INTENTIONS...DO pm me.

AND IF ANY OF YOU CAN THINK OF SO MANY CONSPIRACY THEORY...BETTER STILL PLEASE THINK OF HOW YOU CAN HELP TO SPREAD THIS NEWS TO ALL RELATED PARTIES.

TIME IS TICKING....

THOSE THAT WITH PARENTS OR UNCLES OR BUSINESS FRIENDS OR FARMERS THAT YOU KNOW ARE INFLUENTIAL OR HAVE CONTACTS WITH THE GOVT HEAD, PLEASE TELL THEM TO HELP TO AT LEAST TO GIVES BN ASSOCIATIONS A CHANCE TO PRESENT THEIR VIEW OR SUGGESTION OF THE NATIONAL GUIDELINES FOR SF.






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This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 10 2009, 07:10 AM

TO ALL BROTHERS,


FOCUS WITH WHAT WE INTEND TO DO NOW.

TIME IS TICKING....HAVE YOU ALL CALL YOUR INFLUENTIAL FRIENDS TO INFORM THEM ABOUT THIS...

YOU WILL BE SURPRISED THAT NONE OF THE BN ASSOCIATIONS AWARE THAT THE NEW GUIDELINES IS ALREADY DRAFTED AND BEEN DISCUSSED.

AS I SAID, PLEASE FORGET ABOUT WHICH ASSOCIATION IS LEAD BY CONSULTANTS OR SENIOR SELFISH PIONEER.


WE FIGHT THIS WAR WITH ALL.....

WE CANNOT AFFORD TO LOSE EVEN ONE MAN IF HIS THINKING IS THE SAME LIKED US THAT NO FARMS TO BE SHIFTED.

ALL ARE AFFECTED AND I M SURE BN ASSOCIATION IN MELAKA OR PERAK OR PENANG OR KEDAH WILL HELP AS EVEN THEIR PRESIDENTS DO HAVE FARMS IN TOWN.

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Added on February 10, 2009, 7:55 amEvery member here got their own baggage full too...

If we can participate in this forum everyday, why not used those times to do some good for the farmers??.



This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 10 2009, 07:55 AM

way back two years ago when selangor bn association facing dilemma in Banting, Sabak Bernam when letter issued by Bandaraya to close all farms. They managed to use the only guideline which is GAHP guideline to convince the govt head that by referring to the guideline, shoplot farm is legal to operate as farmhouses.

and in both cases, we won.

We all know that state govt will use the guidelines as reference but most likedly they will proceed to follow it if the guideline do mentioned about closing down within 3 years.

So, please understand the seriousness of this issue.

If you are not agreed with it, fine, shows us an example of your experiences in protecting the farmers. don't gives us another version of

Theoretically can be done but practically no one done it before.





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This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 10 2009, 03:35 PM

All members focus on the main issue now.

received a good news that one of the member here had managed to contact one top leader about our dilemma...

We need to spread this news to the whole malaysia...

just focus on how to spread the news and seek for help.

We need to get bn association to voice their dissatisfaction...

Have you guys contacted your respective bn association president or secretary ??.

Please help to spread the news, there are many caliber members in chinese chamber associations that can assist us in this issue.

Try to spread this news, don't just `Jai Talk'...

Stop talking story and do some real work by spreading the news to those friends that you think will able to help us.

FOCUS....Time Ticking.....



Help.

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This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 11 2009, 12:26 AM

Received this from my friend in Kuching.

" I Just received news that 17th Feb, Forestry will take action in kuching."..will again double confirm with them first...".

Bloody f***ing idiots, not yet put out fire in kedah, they are lighting another spot in kuching.

Lucas1....what lah.....liked this no need to rest liao.

why all choose this date for a killing??...

i think all got an appointment....or it is a good date to start killing...




As for the knowledgeable idiot..no need to talk much lah....let him jaga the dog and let the dog bite him back then he can shows his bible to his dog....` what the f***, i protect u here, u bite me ahh??'...the dog reply....

`WHY ??? YOUR FACE LOOK LIKED ME MEH??...WHY I HAVE TO PROTECT U??.... I AM NOT YOUR BROTHER OHH!!!'.


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This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 12 2009, 12:15 AM

AS I ALWAYS SAID ....

THERE IS BLACK,

THERE IS WHITE,

THERE IS GREY.

IF YOU ARE IN GREY AREA, U CAN TALK ABOUT THE FACTS, THE TRUE AND ETC.....AT THE END.......U ENDS UP MOVING NO WHERE BUT REMAIN AT THE ORIGINAL POINT.....


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Added on February 12, 2009, 10:04 pmThose who cares to read the Draft National Guideline (uploading every 10 minutes as the blogger only received it this afternoon after coming back from attending family matters, he wish to apologize for delay in publishing it to the blog.).

http://worldofswiftletfarming.blogspot.com

or if you worry that the blogger had other hidden agenda, then pls don't visit the blog.


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Added on February 12, 2009, 10:58 pmCONFIRMED D-DAY ON 17 FEB 2009 IN KUCHING SARAWAK...

BE PREPARE.

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This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 12 2009, 10:58 PM

Here In selangor, we can offer u RM3.65 at far better quality.

and Processed nest at RM6.20 per gram.

[[COLOR=red][SIZE=7]CHEAP SALE !!!!!

OWNER MIGRATING, MUST SELL !!!!!!

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Added on February 13, 2009, 9:42 amAs for GAHP course, well, I attended the first FOC GAHP Course in Shah Alam, Selangor back in...i think....2004??....

and the reason that we attended the course is we need to attend it as a requirement to apply license.

Back then, we face the dilemma that license cannot lah...this n that...so when we heard got this offer....WHO CARES.....PERGILAH.....

Got free lunch n tea break somemore.....Where to find.

N Dr Fadzilla also very friendly and tell all the participants...

` WHAT ARE U WAITING FOR, I TOO, WANT TO INVEST IN BUYING SHOPS AND RENOVATE IT INTO SWIFTLET FARM. IT IS CHEAP TO CONVERT A SHOP INTO SWIFTLET FARM...IT COST ONLY FEW THOUSAND TO CONVERT. JUST BUY WOOD PLANK TO FIX AT BEAM AND SIDE WALL AND INSTALL FEW TWEETERS TO TRY IT OUT AND IF THE POPULATION GROW, YOU CAN THEN ADD MORE WOOD PLANK IN. GOVT FULLY SUPPORT THIS INDUSTRY !!!!'


It is this MARVELLOUS speech that resulted me owning MORE farms........


So now, the scenario had changed from good to bad..

Since the requirement still ask us to go for this course, we should just go to the cheapest fees organiser and the best is organised by BN Association

and we can invite Dr Rezuan to come to talk to us. `Come back to our team Dr Rezuan, You have 60,000 farmers backing you if you come back on board.....60,000 my friends.....not small ohh!!!! '.

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Added on February 13, 2009, 10:21 amSO GUYS...

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE DRAFT GUIDELINE??

HAPPY ??


THIS IS NOTHING COMPARE TO ANOTHER PAPER WHICH WRITTEN BY OUR LOCAL SHIFTING EXPERT.....

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MORE DISHEARTENING, OUR SELANGOR BN ASSOCIATION EVEN IGNORE THIS ISSUE AS NO ONE INFORM THEM ...what can you do by then??.......sit there n wait for officers to come n close shop ??


Well....i rest my case here.


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This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 13 2009, 11:13 AM

DOWNLOAD IT HERE


http://depositfiles.com/files/7r4gommf6


LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE PROBLEM DOWNLOAD.


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Added on February 13, 2009, 4:16 pmLATEST NEWS FROM KUCHING.

17/2/09. CONFIRMED.

ALL NESTS WITHOUT YOUNG CHICS MUST HARVEST DOWN N TWEETERS ALL TAKE OUT. FULL STOP.



MY ADVICE, GATHER AS MANY FARMERS N RELATIVES AS POSSIBLE....

AND U KNOW WHAT TO DO NEXT...

FARMERS....I MEAN FARMERS.....( PLEASE LAH....CANNOT SAID IT OUT LOUD......U CAN USE THEM !!!!....).

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This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 13 2009, 04:29 PM

Engineer Lee, your comments noted.

keep coming guys.

we need help.

take yr knowledge n expertise into full use.

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And as for Kuching peoples...

Politician only cares about two things...

MONXY N

POLLING TICKETS.... ( THIS IS REPEATEDLY REMINDED TO ME BY BROTHER K).

SHOW THEM THESE TWO......U CAN EVEN SQUEEZE THEIR BALLS AND THEY CAN STILL SMILE BACK AT U....


REMEMBER....SHOW THEM YOUR NUMBER..........


THATS ALL THEY CARES!!!.....


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Added on February 13, 2009, 6:35 pmTO THOSE IN KUALA TERENGGANU,

KINDLY SHOW UP IN THIS GAHP COURSE TO BE HELD IN

DATE : 8/3/2009

PLACE : GAMELAN HALL, PRIMULA BEACH RESORT, KT.

TIME : 8AM TO 2PM

COURSE FEES : RM100 (FOR BN ASSO. MEMBER)
RM250 (FOR NON MEMBER)

(INCLUSIVE OF TEA N LUNCH......WAH SEI.....ORGANISE IN RESORT SOME MORE INCLUDE TEA N LUNCH...WHERE TO FIND!!!!....RM100 ALSO NOT ENOUGH PAY TO RESORT LAH!!!)..


THOSE INTERESTED PLS REGISTER WITH MS TEO/LIZA : TEL : 09-622 3521


SHOW YOUR POLLING TICKETS TO YR KT MENTRI BESAR AS HE IS THE GUEST OF HONOR.



THESE ALSO GOES TO SELANGOR DINNER.....SHOW UP TO SHOW OUR MB HIS POLLING TICKETS NO.!!!!!......


WE FARMERS DO NOT CARES WHICH PARTY RULE....

WE SUPPORT U AS LONG AS U SUPPORT US ...ORDINARY CITIZENS....


VERY SIMPLE....

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This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 13 2009, 07:42 PM

AT LAST,

THE MIGHTY SMART HARRY HAD SURFACED IN THIS FORUM WITH A DIFFERENT NAME.

YOU SHOULD HAVE ALERT EVERYONE WHEN YOU FIRST RECEIVED THE COPY OF DRAFT GUIDELINES FROM THE GOVT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

BUT INSTEAD U HIDE IT N PLAN TO FOLLOW THE TIDE BY SUGGESTING TO THE GOVT THAT U CAN HELP IN SHIFTING FARMS.


I HAVE FAMILY TO SUPPORT TOO.

I UNDERSTAND THE PRESSURE OF NOT DOING WELL FINANCIALLY WHEN YOUR WIFE IS FINANCIALLY STABLE N HER FAMILY IS A RICH FAMILY WITH HIGH RESPECTATION FROM THEIR TOWN.

PLEASE JOIN BACK THE GROUP.

WE HAVE 60,000 FARMERS.

IF YOU WANT ONE FARM FOC, WE CAN EACH CONTRIBUTE RM2.00 TO YOU TO HELP U TO BUILD YOUR OWN FARM.

AND I CAN GIVES U ENLESS SOUNDS FROM MY OWN COLLECTIONS TO ASSIST YOU TO BECOME A SUCCESSFUL FARMER CUM CONSULTANT.


PLEASE CONSIDER TO JOIN US. YOU KNOW WHERE TO FIND DAVID LIM.

IN THIS WORLD,

IT DO US GOOD TO HAVE AN EXTRA FRIEND THAN AN EXTRA ENEMY.


YOU HAVE FARM IN TOWN TOO, I PASSED BY YOUR FARM ONE MONTH AGO. THE AREA IS OK. POTENTIAL, YES.

DON'T GIVES UP JUST LIKED THAT!!!...

SHOW YOUR IN LAW !!!! YOU CAN TOO!!!!...


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SO, KUCHING FARMERS....SUDAH APPLY COURT INJUNCTION ???

IF YOU NEED US TO SUPPORT FINANCIALLY....hehe...quite a few of these kuching farmers are rich....pie sei!..

WE CAN SET UP A FUND TO HELP U GUYS OUT.

NO PROBLEM. JUST LET US KNOW.


AS FOR HARRY.......LOH......NO NEED TO HIDE LIAO....WE ALL KNOW WHO IS HARRY IN LOWYAT.....


U THINK WE ARE THAT


WE ARE NO DUMB DUMB LAH !!!......DON'T JUST KEEP ASKING TO PEOPLES TO JOIN HERE JOIN THERE...


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This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 14 2009, 02:08 PM

edited as not relevant !!!!......FOCUS ON THE MAIN ISSUE.



Good point....bee keeping is equivalent to swiftlet keeping......


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Added on February 14, 2009, 4:06 pmWest Wing,

i met a few farmers from kuching.

and they all already gives up when we were dicussing about mukah.

Most of them just want to delay a few years.

IN FACT THEY ARE ALREADY STARTED BUILDING STANDALONE FARMS.

BUT THEY FORGOT SOMETHING.....EAST N WEST IS DIFFERENT...

DO YOU THINK THE WHITE HAIR WILL ALLOW ANYONE TO BUILD THEIR STANDALONE FARMS SUKA SUKA??...

YOU ENDS UP BEEN CHASE FROM TOWN TO AGRILAND THEN TO ECO PARK!!!!......

SO SINCE YOU GUYS GOT NO CHOICE...

WHY NOT FIGHT KAU KAU THIS TIME !!!!

SHOW THEM WHO IS THE BOSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIKED LUCAS1 SAID, FIND A LAWYER PREFEBLY

MR CORRECT, CORRECT, CORRECT !!!!!!!


BORROW FROM 华教元老沈慕羽


服务一生，战斗一世



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This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 14 2009, 05:20 PM

If I mistaken Chionggua as Harry.

THEN I APOLOGIZE HERE.

BUT SADLY....IT MEANS H WILL CONTINUE WITH PLAN TOO......


I USED TO READ BLOG BEFORE I WRITE ONE MYSELF...

I READ THE SAME STORY WITH THE SAME CHARACTERS THAT CHIONGGA MENTIONED IN HIS COMMENTS...

IT IS REALLY DEJAVU !!!!!!.......


AS FOR THE REASON WHY I HAVE NOT POST THE GUIDELINE ......IT IS BECAUSE I ONLY RECEIVED A COPY FROM MY FRIEND WHO IS ALSO TIGHT WITH KEDAH N PERAK POLITICAL PROBLEMS N ONLY MANAGED TO FIND TIMES TO SEND IT TO ME WHEN HE TOO FACING DIFFICULTY ON HOW TO MAKE IT SO THAT HE CAN SEND IT BY EMAIL....BUT THE File IS TOO BIG.

WHEN I CAME BACK FROM KAMPUNG AFTER MY ELDER BROTHER FUNERAL, I QUICKLY SCAN IT N POST IT TO MY BLOG...

THE DELAY IS MY FAULT, NO DOUBT.





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Added on February 14, 2009, 7:54 pmCHIONGGUA IS RIGHT.

LETS DO OUR PART.

CHIONGGUA, U CAN'T DO IT BY ONE HAND.

SEPARATE IT INTO GROUP :

EACH MEMBER WILL SAVE THE 10 PAGES STARTING FROM FIRST PAGE.


PLEASE VOLUNTEER YOUR SELF TO HELP US DO IT :-


1) PAGE 1 TO 10 - VOLUNTEER NAME :

2) PAGE 11 TO 20 - VOLUNTEER NAME :

3) PAGE 21 TO 30 - VOLUNTEER NAME :

4) PAGE 31 TO 40 - VOLUNTEER NAME :

5) PAGE 41 TO 50 - VOLUNTEER NAME :

6) PAGE 51 TO 60 - VOLUNTEER NAME :

7) PAGE 61 TO 70 - VOLUNTEER NAME :

8) PAGE 71 TO 80 - VOLUNTEER NAME :

9) PAGE 81 TO 90 - VOLUNTEER NAME :

10) PAGE 91 TO 100 - VOLUNTEER NAME :

11) PAGE 101 TO 110 - VOLUNTEER NAME :

12) PAGE 111 TO 120 - VOLUNTEER NAME : ChanK


PLEASE KEY IN YOUR NAME SO THAT WE KNOW SOMEONE IS SAVING THE POSTS N WE CAN PROCEED TO SAVE OTHER PAGES.

CHIONGGUA, WHICH PAGE U HAVE SAVE ? PLEASE LET US KNOW SO THAT NO DOUBLE WORK.

I HAVE STARTED WITH 111 TO 114, SO I WILL CONTINUE TO SAVE FROM THERE TILL 120.




GUYS....HELP.



FOR YOUR INFO, I JUST SELECT THE POST CONTENT N COPY N PASTE TO MICROSOFT WORDS...
IF THIS IS NOT SUITABLE, LET US KNOW.

AFTER WE HAVE DONE OUR PART, WE SHOULD SEND IT TO MAYBE THREE PEOPLES TO SAVE IT N TO POST IT TO THE NEW SITE.




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Added on February 14, 2009, 8:21 pmCHIONGGUA is right too..

we can continue with this forum in google group n just create a new group to talk about swiftlet farming. but....google group is a bit difficult loh...maybe i still not used to it??

What is our Moderator Opinion, Seeseng?

because if we do continue in lowyat forum.....again, after maybe 2 years, we will have to save all the pages manually n repeat the same thing again.
that does not make much sense to me..
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Added on February 14, 2009, 8:53 pmwhile googling chiongguo google group.

i create another group which is for swiftlet farming group.

what do you think, should we all save the pages all into this group n we continue our discussion there.

http://groups.google.com/group/swiftletfarming


OR


http://swiftletfarming.21.forumer.com/


Which is also in forum form that is more familiar to all members here.


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This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 14 2009, 10:10 PM

THANK YOU !! THANK YOU!!! Engineer Lee..You Are The Man.

Brother aeiou228, i think you can set up the v1 for all of us as you are more familiar with all this. We count on you.

Both of you, thank you for your hard work especially Engineer Lee....luckily i dont hv to continue saving it ...man....my eyes going to pop out n stick to my laptop screen liao .....

THANK YOU.

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Added on February 15, 2009, 8:56 amGUYS IN KUCHING...

WE HERE (NOT INCLUSIVE ME AS I ONLY CONTRIBUTE WHEN I WOKE UP THIS MORNING WHEN I RECEIVED URGENT EMAIL (WHICH WAS SENT OUT AT 3:45AM....MAN....HE REALLY NO NEED TO SLEEP WANT MEH???)) TO SEND SOME INFO TO OUR ANGEL TO STUDY THE CASE.


WE ARE DOING OUR BEST, WHAT ABOUT U???


GO IN FORCE TO PROTECT YOUR ANGEL !!!!!.....

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN!!!!!



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This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 15 2009, 08:58 AM

What Chiongguo did is good. I registered n receiving comments from tiroks, from admin (which is chiongguo) and Chiongguo had separated each point of the guideline as a discussion topic.

I have not use google group before but after receiving the emails....slowly, i realised this is good.

Please register to participate in this discussion group.

I wish our own BN Associations in Malaysia are doing this...unfortunately, they are such a d*** head that they think they are the best mind to tackle the govt or they are the one who solved all farmers problem....

THE PROBLEM IS THEY ARE ACTUALLY A GOOD FIREMANS....

ONLY FIRE BROKE OUT THAT THEY START ACTION TO FIGHT OFF THE FIRE !!!!.....


Kuching-Farmer or Uncle Ben,

Liked Lucas1 said

WE FIGHT N WILL NEVER ACCEPT FAILURE EVEN IF WE HAVE TO FIGHT WITH ONE PERSON LEFT...

I worked with one of the pioneer who fight for our rights for the past three weeks.....and man........it is very very tiring,

it takes up most of the our time....

i don't even have time to fight my own war with three owls !!!....

and i have to said....

IF I GIVEN A CHANCE TO BE HIS BODYGUARD (NOT THAT HE NEEDS ONE), I WILL NOT HESITATE TO TAKE A BULLET FOR HIM....


KUCHING-FARMER.....FIGHT TILL THE LAST MINUTES.......................


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Added on February 15, 2009, 10:14 pmBEN CHAI IS NOT FOLLOWING THE THEORETICAL CAN BE DONE BUT PRACTICALLY NO ONE DONE IT BEFORE...

WE ARE JUST BUYING TIME.....2 YEARS IS MORE THAN ENOUGH TO WAIT FOR THE TSUNAMI....

THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CANNOT DISCUSS OPENLY....

A KNOWN STRATEGY IS WORTHLESS...HOPEFULLY, OUR WHITE HAIR OR HIS GANG IS NOT READING IT HERE...

THESE ARE TOTALLY TWO DIFFERENT THINGS OR SCENARIOS ..

ONE is THE D-DAY IS ANOTHER 2 DAYS.....WHAT BEN CHAI DID IS CORRECT..

ANOTHER ONE IS GOVT GIVE US 3 YEARS AND FOR US TO DISCUSS IF WORKABLE OR NOT AND OUR LOCAL EXPERT SUBMIT A PROPOSAL THAT HE IS THE EXPERT IN SHIFTING...


SO, CAN YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCES ??...

STILL WANT TO ARGUE THAT THE ABOVE THEORY IS GOOD????....MAN....WHY WE HUMAN BEING HAVE TO BE SUCH A d*** HEAD!!!.....NO OFFENCE....I TALKING ABOUT ME...

WE ARE NOBODY IF COMPARE TO WHAT BEN HAD DONE FOR THE DISASTER VICTIMS, SO DON'T EVEN DARES TO TALK BAD ABOUT HIM.....
` BE CAREFUL WHEN LIGHTNING STRIKE !!!'...


OF COURSE....DON'T WASTE TIME ARGUEING THIS THINGS.

ANY DEVELOPER, LAWYERS, ARCHITECT, ENGINEERS HERE ???

KINDLY JOIN CHIONGGUO GOOGLE SITE TO GIVES YOUR EXPERTISE VIEW ON OUR NATIONAL GUIDELINES??...



Just check the google group,only three registered. Don't worry chionggua....

I can Assured u that they will be more registering and giving their views NEXT WEEK......


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This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 15 2009, 10:56 PM