In Malaysia, nothing make sense...

want it to make sense? change the govt.

In malaysia, 1 + 1 = not always 2.....ask any malaysians, some will answer 1, some will answer 0, some will answer -1 or some will answer 1000 as when u blew it up, u will get 1000 or more !!!!....


wah...this forum is heating up......in a good way....

ONLINE FARMERS BOLEH!!!!!!!!!!!

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Added on January 15, 2009, 7:49 pmWHAT !!!!!.....

NEED TO ATTEND COURSE ONLY CAN JOIN AS MEMBER ????

This is rediculous !!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes. RM50 is cheap, some more got bird's nest soup as dessert.

that bowl of bn soup alone worth RM50 liao.

This post has been edited by ChanK: Jan 15 2009, 07:49 PM

This is weird, i just received call from my johor friend who told me he received information this morning that all johor farms that already submitted licence applications previously will need to reconfirm their farm address before they issue the license...

Did u submit yr application??....

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Added on January 16, 2009, 7:52 pmIf i am not wrong, the bn association in johor helped to submit the application and my friend is one of the member.


yscargo,

All are welcomed, liked Lucas1 said...bring yr grandfather, grandmother, mother, father, sons, daughters, wife, girlfriends n show to our MB HOW IMPORTANT THIS TRADE IS TO US, ORDINARY PEOPLES.


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This post has been edited by ChanK: Jan 16 2009, 07:52 PM

This happened very often in construction, the pile might hit the rock n break.

U Should have ask your contractor or engineer for advice n not asking comments from this forum....weird..

You are still have a long time to face the contractor, by stop communicating with him in this early stage, u will have a very long hard time facing him in later stage.

If cannot add another pile besides the broken pile, excavate a bigger footing n concrete it...that will do.

n of course, this is the layman solution, n u can always ask advice from the expert liked engineer, they can provides 1001 solutions to u as long as you got the money!!!....

or u can make a hell of issues with the contractor n make a hell of problems to him....



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Good Figures to show to our GOVT.

NGO....Good. Already Form the NGO??

Can Anyone help to form it.....Any experience NGO members or Chairman here??

These all boil down to one problem.

When the Head of a Department is corrupted...

The Manager also Corrupt...

The Supervisor also Corrupt...

The workers too Corrupt...

So, What can we do???

Change the Head of Department !!!!

And if the Supervisor still Corrupt....Change them too....

They are many capable candidates to fill up all the posts....many caliber candidates in malaysia who are retrenched and waiting .....

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Good one. O3.

In studies conducted at the Academy of Medical Sciences in
Russia, Dr. Gubernskii and Dr. Dmitriev found that 0.005 ppm
to 0.02 ppm of Ozone added to normal indoor air (0 ppm)
increased animals' resistance to the cold, to infection, to toxic
substances, and to Oxygen deprivation.
Drs. Gubernskii & Dmitriev also tested with less than 0.01 ppm
Ozone in an air-conditioned office building. They also stated
that : "Atmospheric Ozone has a positive effect on animals and
people. It is important to note its positive effect on the
breathing system, blood composition, arterial pressure,
immune system, general feeling of well-being, and mental and
physical work capability."
Russian scientists performed a study to see how effective
Ozone was at improving indoor air quality(IAQ) in schools.
Respiratory-related illnesses were drastically improved after
the Ozone generator system were installed. The Ozone
concentration produced by the systems were 0.015 ppm.
In testing performed by 2 scientists by the name of Elford and
Van den Ende, it was found that Ozone effectively destroyed
bacteria at 0.04 ppm. Many published studies show the
effectiveness of Ozone (0.01 to 0.03 ppm) at removing
malodours and pollutants.


At lower levels, it can be very subtle or virtually nonexistent.
At these concentrations it often has a fresh and
natural scent to it, much like the scent in the air after a
thunderstorm.


hmmm.....fresh air.......

This post has been edited by ChanK: Jan 23 2009, 08:42 AM

Those who know the In n Out Of this industry is not invited to the meeting while those who know nothing about the industry is invited??

" Malaysia Boleh loh"..

It takes them 10 years to research to come out with a proper guidelines and after doing so many research and so many feedbacks, they still think liked an idiots !!!!

They still don't understand that THE MAIN REASON FOR THOSE WHO BUILD FARMS IN SHOPHOUSE IS DUE TO

THEY HAVE ABANDONED N UNOCCUPIED N IDLE SHOP HOUSES.

THEY HAVE NO MONEY TO INVEST IN LAND N BUILD THE FARM IN AGRICULTURE LAND.

THEY DO NOT HAVE MONEY TO PAY EVEN THE INTERESTS FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS EVEN IF AGRO BANK IS WILLING TO GIVES THEM LOAN.

THEY ARE NO/LOW INCOME ORDINARY PEOPLES.


SO, Still cannot understand ????

How difficult is that ???


DISEASES ???? HELLO ?? HAIWAN???? I THOUGHT U HAD DONE A RESEACH AND FOUND THAT SWIFTLETS IS DISEASE FREE 5 YEARS AGO ???

NOISE POLLUTION ??? 40 dB IS GOOD ENOUGH?? YOU WANT TOTAL SILENCE, WHY DON'T WE, HUMAN BEING, ALL MOVED OUT FROM THE CITY ???

WE CAN STAY IN KAMPUNG??? BUT KAMPUNG EVEN MORE NOISY OHH, EARLY MORNING CHICKENS ALREADY CALLING LOH???

AH SUM, YELLING AT OVER 40dB SELLING `YAU CHAR KWAI!!!!'

UNCLE YELLING ` SAU GAU BO CHI, SAU GAU DIN SIONG !!!!!'

AND MY NEIGHBOUR PLAYING INDIAN IDOLS SONGS AT OVER 40dB IN THEIR BARBER SHOP, MAMAK STORE TO ATTRACT PEOPLES TO COME TO THEIR SHOP TILL MIDNIGHT !!!!'



STILL CANNOT UNDERSTAND ???

WELL, BETTER JUST CHANGE ALL THE GOVT OFFICERS TO THOSE WHO ARE MORE HUMAN LIKED ....




AND TO THOSE WHO HAS ABANDONED/UNOCCUPIED UPPER FLOOR SHOP, GO AHEAD N RENOVATE IT... NO NEED CONSULTANT ....JUST DO IT !!!!

IT IS AFFORDABLE,

THIS IS MY CALCULATION FOR A SIMPLE SHOP LOT RENOVATION COST FOR ORDINARY PEOPLES :-

1) WOOD PLANK, BUY 6 INCHES WOOD PLANK AND FIX IT TO THE CEILING AT SIDE ONLY. THAT IS FOR 20X70 SHOP, RENOVATE HALF OF THE SHOP LOT INTO SWIFTLET FARM. BUY ONLY 150FT LONG PLANK. AT 2.20 A FT RUN, IT WILL COST ONLY RM330.00 FOR THE WOOD PLANK.

2) COVER ALL THE WINDOWS WITH CEILING BOARD W/ INSULATION. NO NEED BRICKS WALL. IT COST ONLY RM400.00 TO DO IT.

3) BUY 5 TWEETERS N FIX AT 4 CORNERS N ONE AT INTERNAL HOLE AT RM6.00. BUY ONE ROLL OF CABLE AT RM30.00.

4) BUY TWO AFFORDABLE AMP WT USB DRIVE AT RM220.00. BUT IF YOU HAVE OLD AMP N CD PLAYERS BY ALL MEAN USE IT TO SAVE THE MONEY !!!!

5) BUY ORCHID MESH AND COVER THE ROOF FROM HEAT AR RM120.00 (INCLUSIVE INDONESIA WORKERS LABOUR ASA THIS I DON'T RECOMMEND U TO DO IT YOURSELF.)

6) OPEN THE TOILET ROOF TO LET THE BIRDS COME IN.



TOTAL COST RM 1,100.00





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This post has been edited by ChanK: Jan 24 2009, 11:31 AM

Hmm...

well...as far as i know, this forum is not only visited by farmers but also NGO, authorities and all other types of Haiwan.

By reading what we said here, they can catch us from behind.

There are things we dont talk openly as we knew these Haiwan will pick on it and use it against us, ordinary farmers.

Westwing and Chionggua, pls do consider to edit your comments minus some of the details about P.

Of course, if you think this is NO BIG DEAL, then go ahead talk more about it.

GOD BLESS.

As always, we don't need to use any Chemical to clean nests or the kill mites. There are many ways to kill it ORGANICALLY.

You can find many Solutions online.

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Added on February 2, 2009, 9:56 amTo GEM,

well....no comment on the way you advertise it here....but it is too much though. and starting to make peoples VOMIT.

If you are good, farmer will tell his farmer friends and their friends.

No Need to use old tactics here.

I hope you don't mind me SO FRANK HERE.

WE ARE ALL ADULT WITH TINY BRAINS.

THANK YOU And I Apologise.

Good to see now a lot of Knowledgeable New Investors joining this industry.

This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 2 2009, 09:56 AM

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This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 3 2009, 09:15 AM

What i think, it is not that they don't understand that it will not work. but if everyone knows that shifting is not possible....then who is going to buy those ECOCK Park?

UNTIL NOW I STILL HEARD WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND...GOVT DON'T UNDERSTAND...

U THINK THEY ARE SO STUPID AND WE ARE SO SMART?

THEY UNDERSTOOD....

BUT THEY WANT MONEY!

WHO CARES POOR FARMERS GOING BANKRUPT OR SUICIDE!

HE WANT MONEY ! AND THEY ALL WANT MONEY !

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Added on February 4, 2009, 4:46 pmTAKE FOR EXAMPLE THE FOC GAHP COURSE....

IT IS BY RIGHT...FOC!!....N NOW EACH OF US FORK OUT RM400+ TO GET A CERTIFICATE THAT DOES NOT DO ANYTHING EXCEPT INTRODUCED U TO THE SO CALLED EXPERT N LET THE EXPERT SWEET TALK U TO GIVES HIM CONTRACT...

AND THE HAIWAN GUY IF GET RM100 FROM THE RM400+,

AND WITH 60,000 FARM HOUSES IN MALAYSIA....

THIS WORK OUT TO RM24,000,000.00 ( 24 MILLIONS !).




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This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 7 2009, 11:15 AM

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[COLOR=red]TO ALL KEDAH FARMERS !


STAND UP AND FIGHT THE CORRUPTED AND EVIL SWIFTLET FARMING BLOGGER :


ISMAIL AHMAD @ HARRY KOK !





SHOW HIM OUR MIGHT !


TO HARRY COCK OR ISMAIL AHMAD,

I THINK YOU OWE ALL OF US AN EXPLANATION. IF YOU ARE AN EXPERT IN SHIFTING THE BIRDS FROM TOWN TO ECO PARK, LETS START WITH YOUR OWN FARM IN SUNGAI PETANI.

SINCE YOUR FARM HAVE LESS THAN 100 NESTS FOR THE PAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS, LETS PROVE TO US YOU MOVE YOUR BIRDS OF 200 BIRDS FROM YOUR SHOPLOT TO ECO PARK .

TO PROVE IT IS SUCCESSFUL, YOU MOVE YOUR 200 BIRDS TO THE NEW HOME IN ECO PARK ON FEB 18 (GOOD DAY MAH!!!), AND ON FEB 20 WE WILL CHECK YOUR NEW FARM IN ECO PARK AND CALCULATE AT NIGHT AND SEE HOW MANY BIRDS STAY IN THE NEW FARM, AND THEN RE VISIT ON 25 OF FEB AND SEE HOW MANY STAY....AND RE VISIT ON 18 MARCH AND SEE HOW MANY STAY ......


LET US ALL HELP ISMAIL AHMAD AKA HARRY COCK TO MOVE HIS FARM.






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[COLOR=red]IT MEANS TIROKS GOT NO PROBLEM AT IF U GUYS CLOSE YOUR FARM AS HIS FARM IS A STANDALONE FARM.

HE IS THE KAKI OF HARRY SO AS EXPECTED HE WILL MOVE HIS HEAD N LIE TO HIS GOOD FRIEND LEG.


IF HE DON'T BELIEVED IN THE BLOGGER WHO CRITISIZE HARRY,

HE CAN ALWAYS REFER TO


DAVID LIM


IF TIROK DO NOT KNOW WHO IS DAVID LIM, THEN HE SHOULD JUST GO TO KEDAH AND ASK.


BY THE WAY, HARRY IS FAMOUS FOR OPPOSITE REASON, NO ONE WILL ENVY HIM.

HAHA !!!


TIROK MAKES IT SOUND LIKED HARRY IS THE GOD .....


LETS SEE WHAT HARRY WILL PRESENT IN THE MEETING, THEN WE CAN CHECK BACK,

WHAT WE TRYING TO DO HERE IS TO REMIND HIM THAT





DON'T THINK PEOPLES DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GOING TO DO.



WHAT YOU DID WILL AFFECT ALL SWIFTLET FARMERS IN MALAYSIA. SAME GOES TIROK.



THINK TWICE BEFORE YOU SAID ANYTHING AT ALL....



` YOU ARE TELLING PEOPLES TO KILL THEMSELVE, AND REVIVE THEMSELVE ,

THIS CAN BE DONE THEORETICALLY AND NO ONE DARES TO DO IT !!!!! '



SO TELL ME, HARRY AND TIROK, ARE YOU GOING TO KILL YOURSELVE AND THEN REVIVE YOURSELVE????



THERE IS NO ONE ENVY OF ANYONE ONE, SELLING AROMA, PRODUCTS, OR CONSULTATIONS CANNOT MAKE ANYONE RICH !!!!!

AND THIS IS NOT A MULTI MILLIONS DOLLAR BUSINESS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, NONE OF THE ONLINE CONSULTANT'S ARE MAKING EVEN THOUSANDS EVERY MONTH CONTINUOUSLY.



SO DON'T MISLEAD OTHERS AGAIN MR TIROK.



AS ALWAYS, HARRY WILL ONLY SEND HIS MAH CHAI TO TALK....NO SURPRISE AT ALL.....





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Added on February 6, 2009, 3:06 pmTHERE ARE MANY BAD APPLES IN THIS INDUSTRY.

BUT FOR BAD APPLES WHO WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE ORDINARY FARMERS....


THINK TWICE, AS YOU ARE AGAINST

60,000 FARMERS.


CAN YOU SLEEP NICELY BY KILLING ALL THE 60,000 ORDINARY FARMERS JUST FOR THE SAKE OF SOME COMMISSION FROM DEVELOPERS ???




WE CAN MAKE A LIVING WITHOUT HURTING OTHERS !!!!!!!!!!!...


IF YOU ARE SO DAMN GOOD IN DESIGNING AND CONSTRUCTING FARMS, WE CAN RECOMMEND YOU MANY PROJECTS !!!!





IF YOU WANT TO SELL BLACK CLOUD FOR A LIVING, WE CAN ASK OUR KAKI TO BUY IT !!!!


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This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 6 2009, 03:09 PM

To Tiroks,

IF YOUR INTENTION OF PARTICIPATING IN THIS FORUM IS TO

SUPPORT YOUR OWN GANG THEN YOU SHOULD STAY AWAY FROM THIS FORUM AND GO BACK TO YOUR WEBSITE.

I NEVER IDOLISE ANYONE, NOT EVEN HM.

HM KNOWS IT ALL THE LONG.

EVEN BEFORE I MET HM OR BEFRIENDED WITH HIM, I AM ALREADY A HAPPY FARMER.

NO ONE IS GOD.

NO ONE IS SIFU.

NO ONE IS EXPERT.

IF U HAVE READ MY PREVIOUS COMMENT, I HV NEVER SAID I M EXPERT.

AND IF YOUR MIND IS CLEAR, U KNOW WHY I BAD MOUTH HARRY.

IT IS NOT FOR MY PERSONAL GAIN ...

NOTHING.

I AM VOICING OUT FOR THE ORDINARY FARMERS IN MALAYSIA.

MOST OF THE FORUM MEMBERS EXCEPT A FEW SENIORS KNOW WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING HERE, AND OF COURSE, YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THEM.

YOU CAN KEEP IDOLISE YOUR SIFU HARRY. IT IS OK.

FOR THOSE WHO ARE RICH, SUCH AS THOSE BN CONTRACTORS WHO ARE MOSTLY BILLIONAIRE OR AT LEAST MULTI MILLIONAIRES, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CRITICAL OR SERIOUSNESS OF WHAT THEY ARE PLANNING TO PROPOSE TO THE GOVT.

THINK TWICE BEFORE YOU PREACH YOUR SO CALLED BRILLIANT IDEA OF

` THEORETICALLY IT CAN BE DONE BUT PRACTICALLY NO ONE EVER DID IT BEFORE !!!!'

YOU HAVE NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION,

PLEASE GO FIND A KNIFE AND CUT OUT YOUR HEAD.

` THEORETICALLY YOU CAN ATTACHED BACK YOUR HEAD,
BUT PRACTICALLY NO ONE EVER DO IT BEFORE !!!'

SINCE YOU TALK LIKED HARRY AND THINK LIKED HARRY, THATS WHY

IT IS NO SURPRISE TO ME YOU WILL FOLLOW YOUR IDOL SIFU.


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OR THERE IS ANOTHER WAY TO PROVE YOUR THEORY,

SINCE YOUR FARM IS IN KT AND HARRY FARM IS IN SUNGAI PETANI,

WHY DON'T YOU ASK YOUR HARRY TO MOVE HIS LESS THAN 100 NESTS (I M BEE POLITE HERE) AND THE BIRDS AND MOVE IT TO YOUR FARM IN KT !!!

THAT WILL PROVE IF WHAT BOTH YOUR SIFU HARRY N YOU IS RIGHT !!!.


AND PLEASE DON'T STOP THERE !!!!

SINCE YOUR FARM IS QUITE SMALL, YOU SHOULD THEN MOVE HARRY AND YOUR TIROKS FARMS NESTS WHICH IS LESS THAN 150 NESTS AND THEN MOVE TO WEST WING FARM, AND THEN MOVE TO KOH LOH FARM, AND THEN MOVE TO JOHN CHEN FARM IN SITIAWAN AND THEN

PLEASE MOVE IT TO TEO FARM (PLEASE STAY THERE FOR 1 YEAR FOR HIM TO RECOUP HIS RENOVATION MONEY AT LEAST) AND THEN MOVE TO

EUGENE FARM AND THEN PLEASE DROP BY PAT. FARM AND THEN

MOVE IT TO SEESENG FARM ( MODERATOR MUST GIVE SOME LAH!!!!.......6 MONTHS ENOUGH OR NOT SEESENG??), THEN TO ENGINEER LEE FUTURE FARM ( PLEASE PROVIDES YOUR NEW FARM OPEN DAY DATE SO THAT WE CAN PUT IT IN TIROK SCHEDULE), THEN FINALLY WE SHOULD MOVE IT TO

MY FARM TO PROVE ME WRONG ( HAHA......FATT LAH), THEN THIS WILL PROVE ME WRONG AND MAKE U CORRECT.


HONESTLY, MAY GOD MOVE IT TO HOR FARM, HE DESERVE A BREAK. THAT COME FROM MY HEART......


WHAT SAY TIROK OR HARRY AKA ISMAIL AHMAD ???




STILL CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHAT ALL THE WHILE I BEEN TALKING ABOUT ????


WANT ME TO CONTINUE HERE ???


IF I STILL CONTINUE LIKED THAT, ALL THE NEWBIES WILL RUN AWAY FROM THIS FORUM AS PLEASE PLEASE CONSIDER THAT

ALL THE NEW FARMERS HERE ARE EDUCATED AND SMART.....


WE, OLD FARMERS, NEED TO CATCH UP WITH THEM.....




I WILL CONTINUE THIS UNTIL HARRY OR TIROKS UNDERSTAND THE SERIOUSNESS OF THEIR STUPIDITY OR EGO OR DUE TO THEM WORRY OF LOSSING THEIR COMMISSIONS.

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This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 6 2009, 11:06 PM

FROM THE LENGTHY EXPLANATION OF LUCAS1, I HOPED ALL FORUM MEMBERS NOW UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING.

YOU SHOULD KNOW BY NOW, WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING HERE.

1) THE MEETING IS PURPOSELY HELD WITHOUT ANY BIRD'S NEST ASSOCIATIONS REPRESENTATIVE'S SO THAT NO ONE WILL AGAINST THE NEW GUIDELINES.

2) IN ORDER TO SHOW THE PUBLIC THAT THE MEETING INVOLVED FARMERS, THEY DECIDED TO PUT SOMEONE THAT ALSO WILL NOT AGAISNT THEIR GUIDELINES. (THIS SHOWS IN HARRY POST WHERE HE STARTED TO PREACH THE IDEA OF ` THEORETICALLY IT CAN BE DONE AND PRACTICALLY NO ONE DONE IT BEFORE ' , THIS EVEN AFTER HE KNEW VERY WELL (WHICH HE ADDED IN AFTER WE BAD MOUTH HIM ) THAT THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE BUT DUE TO WANTING SOME CHEAP PUBLICITY FOR HIS BLOG AND HIS BUSINESS, HE DECIDED TO GO IN AND WHO CARES ???

BUT THE REAL QUESTION HERE IS WHY DR REDUAN RECOMMEND HARRY IN THE FIRST PLACE ??

WHY NO BIRD'S NEST ASSOCIATION REPRESENTATIVES ARE INVITED?? MAYBE DR REDUAN HAS FORGOTTEN THAT THERE IS ASSOCIATION IN KEDAH...MAYBE NO ONE INFORM HIM THAT...

HARRY SHOULD NOT ATTEND THIS MEETING AS HE KNOWS HE CAN'T REPRESENT THE WHOLE KEDAH FARMERS, BY ATTENDING THIS MEETING,
AND BY AGREEING OR EVEN BETTER TO RECOMMEND TO THE GOVT THAT WHAT THEY PLAN IS `THEORETICALLY IN CAN BE DONE, BUT PRACTICALLY NO ONE DONE IT BEFORE' AND TO TELL THEM THAT ORDINARY FARMERS CANNOT DO, GOVT STAFF NO EXPERIENCE TO DO AND NEED TO FIND WHO ??....( I THINK ALL MEMBERS ARE SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW WHO).

IF HARRY PROCEED TO GO TO THE MEETING AND PREACH HIS BRILLIANT IDEA IN THE MEETING SO THAT THE GOVT CAN PROCEED TO MOVE ALL THE FARMS BY GIVING THEM 3 YEARS DEADLINE :


ISMAIL AHMAD @ HARRY IS TO BE ACCOUNTED AND TO BE BLAMED.

( AND PLEASE BE PREPARE TO FACE THE KEDAH FARMERS LATER AS WE WILL PERSONALLY TAKE THE TROUBLE TO INFORM ALL FARMERS SO THAT THEY WILL KNOW WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPEN AND WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS DECISION. )
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HE IS NOT SO STUPID AS WE ALL THINK.

HE KNOW THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE.

BUT IF HE DON'T AGREE WITH GOVT OFFICERS AND NOT COME OUT WITH SOME CRAZY IDEAS, HE WILL NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO GO TO THE MEETING FOR CHEAP PUBLICITY.

SO HE COME OUT WITH THIS BRILLIANT IDEA TO PREACH HIS STUPID IDEA SO THAT HE CAN GET SOME FREE PUBLICITY.

BUT PLEASE BARES IN MIND THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR STUPID ACTION !!!!...


YOU CAN PREACH YOUR BRILLIANT IDEA TO YOUR FANS OF 1000 FARMERS,

BUT PLEASE DON'T DECIDE THE FUTURE OF 59,000 FARMERS.

PLEASE REMEMBER THIS,

YOU ARE NOT PREPARE TO FACE THE FIRE,

DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT PLAYING IT.

THINK CAREFULLY, LIKED CHINESE SAID " CLEVER ONE WILL ONLY TALK, STUPID ONE ACTION" AND IN THIS CASE,

YOU ARE BEEN PUSH TO THE FRONT AS YOU ARE STUPID ENOUGH AND THOSE CLEVER ONE WILL JUST SIT THERE AND LATER ON IF SOMETHING DO HAPPEN, HE IS NOT THE ONE WHO IS RESPONSIBLE....IT IS THE STUPID ONE.

IF I AM ENVY OF YOU AND TRYING TO BAD MOUTH YOU,

I WILL NOT TELL YOU THIS, LET U STONE BY FARMERS LATER EVEN MORE SYOK....


IN FACT YOUR MISSION IS ACCOMPLISHED AS YOU ALREADY COLLECTS ENOUGH PUBLICITY FOR YOUR BLOG WITH US BAD MOUTH YOU.

SO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THE MEETING, BE SMART, AND RECOMMEND TO DR REDUAN THAT THEY SHOULD INSTEAD INVITE THE RIGHT PARTIES.

( I WONDER THEY WILL PAY YOU ENOUGH SO THAT YOU CAN MIGRATE TO AUSTRALIA AND STAY WITH YOUR CHILDRENS THERE LATER ??

ARE YOU SURE YOU GOT ENOUGH COMMISSIONS TO COVER YOUR RETIREMENTS ??

DOES IT WORTH IT??? MAN....WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THOUSANDS DOLLAR BUSINESS AND YOU ARE WILLING TO RISK ALL FOR IT????.....MAN,

TALK ABOUT RECESSION !!!.... )


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Added on February 7, 2009, 7:15 amsee seng,

maybe we should save all the old posts in the new forum.

All the previous posts are very important for newbie, they learned the history of swiftlet farming industry in malaysia (well, not all).

i am not familiar with forum.

i think what we can do is we set up a team so that each team member will save the old posts in their computer so that later on when the new forum is ready, we can repost it in few long post. (each post will have lets say 1 months or 2 months old posts.). Hope u guys understand what i mean here.

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This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 7 2009, 11:14 AM

Jack_S,

Bad apples are plenty, those developer n a new group of bad apples where this peoples own slowed standalone farms and WISH EVERY DAY THAT

THOSE BIRDS THAT PASS BY THEIR STANDALONE FARM EVERY EVENING BEFORE RETURNING TO TOWNS WILL ONE DAY...

STAY IN THEIR STANDALONE FARM ONE DAY......THE DAY WHEN GOVT MOVE ALL TOWN FARMS ( NO WAY THEY CAN DO IT) OUT WHICH THEY DREAM EVERYDAY ( WHICH WILL NOT HAPPEN).



I apologise for being rude using CAPS again and again.

But I just want to be RUDE to ` Fan Quat Chai '........ ` Sek Won Dip Fan Woon Die '.......

Earning money from Swiftlets but kill other peoples swiftlets for sake of getting more swiftlets ........

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At least you guys still hv buyers coming and quoting...selangor still very slow.

but we are ready to store it for few months.

for harry n tiroks.

They get our message. Hope they will present a paper that will fight for not only for their own benefits but for the 60,000 ordinary farmers who don't get a chance to present to the authorities.

YES, YOU ARE....oops...bad habit....

You are representing 60,000 farmers and i hope both of you remember that. We count on you to help all us here.

REMEMBER THAT. BY THE WAY, you still want to go ahh???......U represent 60,000 farmers woh!!!....

Are You Sure you want to take this responsibility by going there to present your Eistein New World Theory ???

Your theory is liked ` Release the apple from your had and let it drop, but the apple instead follow the gravity, it

follow your hand!!!!......you go KT, the apple follow. You go Kedah, the apple also follow.

Wah Lao !!!! Brilliant !!!!.....


West Wing,

I think we should stop calling any of our members here `Sifu '.

Sifu means swiftlets....i am only an ordinary farmer, a dirty old ******* that know nothing except farming.

And my saliva too does not taste good.....

We are all students. Let us remember that....

Not ChanK or HM....none of us are sifu.

We observe birds to learn their behavior, their preferance, n etc.

We record their conversation to learn their speech pattern.

We are only an ordinary farmers.

I participate in this forum without asking for anything. promote nothing and only want to learn from my fellow farmers.

Peace.


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This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 7 2009, 08:05 PM

50 years ago....Good God!.

This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 7 2009, 10:06 PM

We have no intention to Harm anyone.

No one want to spend their time to write lengthy post for the sake of bad mouth anyone.

This is the last resort as we are still waiting your copy of Presentation that Our friends who Worked in the Govt had seen the paper and knows what you

INTEND TO DO !!!!.....


What we want you to CONSIDER is to send your papar to someone more Experience and caliber to help you to redo your paper if necessary.

BOTH HARRY AND TIROKS no need to be STUBBORN to think that what they did are always right.

We all make mistake, even OBAMA make mistake and apologize.

We need Caliber Farmer to help us promote this industry.

i am not racist, I helped a lot malay friends who call us or email and we try to help them FREE OF CHARGE as some of them do it in a very small scale such as testing in their own kampung house.

And should I ask them not to do it???......

How can you ask someone who got no money to invest in buying land, constructing a new building to tell them that what they did is not right ??

THEY ARE TRYING TO EARN A LIVING FOR THEIR FAMILY.

Do you think poor family who earn RM400 Got money spares to invest??

NO.


And if we are wrong, Please post your Presentation paper in your blog

as YOU HAVE BEEN ASKING YOUR READERS TO GIVES YOU POINTS WHAT TO PRESENT BUT IN THE OTHER HAD YOU ALREADY SUBMITTED A DAMAGING PRESENTATION PAPER.

PLEASE POST YOUR PRESENTATION PAPER IN YOUR BLOG FOR ALL TO SEE!!!!

AND PROVE US WRONG !!

WE WILL APOLOGIZE IF OUR GOVT FRIENDS HAD GIVEN US WRONG INFORMATION.


AND TO TIROKS, YOU HAVE THOUGHT THAT WE ARE TRYING TO BAD MOUTH YOUR FRIEND, BUT THIS IS NOT SO.

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Added on February 8, 2009, 7:48 amThe Presentation Paper Will Affect THE WHOLE SWIFTLET FARMING INDUSTRY IN MALAYSIA.

THIS is not personal issue,

this is the Livelihood of 60,000 farmers we are talking about.


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This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 8 2009, 07:48 AM

I am not as dumb as u think.

We all know by bad mouth him, this will make him even more famous.

and he can act INNOCENT to gain support from his fans.

BUT for the Livelihood of 60,000 farmers, We have to do it as Our Friend had repeatedly call him to get a copy of the presentation paper to prove we are wrong but the call had not answered.

If the presentation paper is for the benefit of all swiftlet farmers, i see no harm to show it all to the whole farming community as Harry had mentioned

in his blog, that he is representing all of us to present the paper.

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Added on February 8, 2009, 8:07 amYES.

TIROKS HAD COME TO HIS SENSE THAT HARRY NEEDS HELP TOO.

PLEASE ASK YOUR GOOD FRIEND, HARRY, TO CALL MR DAVID LIM.

MR DAVID LIM HAD CALL HIM MANY TIMES BUT HE DONT DARE TO PICK UP THE CALL.

PRIVATE ??

THEN WHY HE MAKE IT SOUND LIKED THE PRESENTATION IS REPRESENT THE VIEW OF SWIFTLET FARMERS !!!


IT IS ONLY THE VIEW OF HARRY AND TIROKS !!!!


ME. I am only an ordinary swiftlet farmer. Liked Chinese said ' Wear a hat that is suitable to your HEAD !!!!'


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This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 8 2009, 08:11 AM