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post Mar 24 2007, 10:20 AM, updated 19y ago

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"According to a Symantec study reported by Information Week, Microsoft has the most secure operating system amongst its commercial competitors. The report only covered the last 6 months of vulnerabilities and patch releases, but the results place Microsoft operating systems above Mac OS X and Red Hat. According to the article, 'The report found that Microsoft Windows had the fewest number of patches and the shortest average patch development time of the five operating systems it monitored in the last six months of 2006.' The article continues to mention the metrics used in the study (quantity and severity of vulnerabilities as well as the amount of time one must wait for the patch to be released)."
http://www.internetnews.com/security/article.php/3667201


Microsoft operating systems above Mac OS X and Red Hat

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Then there's Mac OS X. Despite the latest TV ads ridiculing the security in Vista with a Matrix-like Agent playing the UAC in Vista, Apple (Quote) has nothing to brag about. Symantec found 43 vulnerabilities in Mac OS X and a 66 day turnaround on fixes. Fortunately, only one was high priority.

Like the others, this is also an increase over the first half of the year. For the first half of 2006, 21 vulnerabilities were found in Mac OS X and Apple took on average 37 days to fix them.
What do u think about this?

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SaifulAJ
post Mar 24 2007, 10:22 AM

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Total bollocks! mad.gif
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post Mar 24 2007, 10:30 AM

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Money talks. Sooner or later Microsoft will rate Symantec products to be the best Anti-virus, best utilities etc.
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post Mar 24 2007, 10:42 AM

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symantec sucks especially thier stupid protection center intented to replace windows protection center but nothing better all still the same.
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post Mar 24 2007, 10:45 AM

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seeseng,
u got it man

there're some problem with mac but each time u do ur update, has anyone face problem?
all i know even on my original windows, after updating it gives me hell of problems

nothing is perfect but we go for near perfect. u dont have to even worry download emails on mac unless if u r using entorage
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post Mar 24 2007, 10:51 AM

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well yeah, i kinda agree with seeseng... each company has their own vested interest... in this case, symantec's range of products are mostly for windows... so when they publish the report with these results, demand for windows might increase... when people actually use windows and realize the harsh reality of how vulnerable it is to security threats, they'd have to purchase all these security software and surprise surprise: symantec's sales would most probably increase....

i'm not saying that the published results are fake or made up or sumthin.... what i'm saying is that they might have skewed the research in such a way that would lean towards windows... for instance, the criteria that they analyze and report may be what windows is better at...

as a consumer, what matters to me and what's most important is my experience when using the OS.... using mac os x is simply stress free, whereas using windows is super stressful with all the vulnerabilities n stuff... i feel more secure using mac os x, and i believe other fellow mac users would attest to this smile.gif
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QUOTE(lailaikatong @ Mar 24 2007, 10:51 AM)


as a consumer, what matters to me and what's most important is my experience when using the OS.... using mac os x is simply stress free, whereas using windows is super stressful with all the vulnerabilities n stuff... i feel more secure using mac os x, and i believe other fellow mac users would attest to this smile.gif
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post Mar 24 2007, 11:33 AM

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total crap.if it d most secured,ask y most of the mac user switched from xp to mac...
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post Mar 24 2007, 11:34 AM

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Guess now is the right time for me to ditch Symantec AV on my Macbook .. it doesn't support native intel platform anyway .. smile.gif Now, is there any better replacement around? Still need it to access the company's internal network.
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post Mar 24 2007, 03:21 PM

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Windows (Vista) is a boost on security measures, but whether someone enjoy it or not is another different story. Things popping up, reminders and warnings may be a peace of mind to some but also irritating to others.

Then Windows has had so much of security issues over the past that they have to be good by now, if not they would have been gone. And the fact that they carry the highest risk of being liable for damages due to majority corporations whom rely on it.

And the study is also biased in a way, cause it took results from the last 6 months of 2006, how many patches would there be right before the launch of a totally new OS(Vista)?
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QUOTE(pukarix @ Mar 24 2007, 11:33 AM)
total crap.if it d most secured,ask y most of the mac user switched from xp to mac...
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switches aren't always about security issues.

and strangely, people tend to have this stupid mentality that every user uses only 1 OS. it's as if OSes are religion. smile.gif

for me, i use at least 3 OSes. Mac OS X is probably the best i've come by so far (yay FreeBSD!!)
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post Mar 24 2007, 04:14 PM

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As the end user, I know what works best for me. All this marketing ploy won't work for me... come on it's 2007 now, not 1997.
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rofl. every windblows bundle always comes with a trial norton anti virus. they're holding each other's balls....
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post Mar 25 2007, 02:50 PM

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Windows being the best is overated. I am not a Mac fanboy but the risk of running windows is so great you don't dare go naked.
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Hmm... something came to mind. If Windows is really that secure, then why hasnt symantec gone out of business?

More accurate to say, Symantec profits greatly from the Windows insecurities.
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post Mar 25 2007, 05:09 PM

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I think Mac is more secure compare to Windows...I've never kena virus and never being hacked before while using Mac but in PC, I'm always worry of being hacked or being attacked by millions of virus, trojan & spyware...
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QUOTE(fyire @ Mar 25 2007, 04:55 PM)
Hmm... something came to mind. If Windows is really that secure, then why hasnt symantec gone out of business?

More accurate to say, Symantec profits greatly from the Windows insecurities.
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just look at LYN's various sub-forums. smile.gif you'll see stuff like "HELP..POP UP..." to "here's my Hijackthis log" and so on so forth.

it's not just symantec. everyone's getting a piece of something out of Windows security.

just look at the ocean of personal firewall, anti-spyware / adware / malware balbalblabla available for Windows. smile.gif

just ask any casual user on LYN what do they have installed on their Windows machine. biggrin.gif there's countless 3rd party apps to handle Windows' insecurity. smile.gif
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post Mar 25 2007, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 25 2007, 05:37 PM)
just look at LYN's various sub-forums. smile.gif you'll see stuff like "HELP..POP UP..." to "here's my Hijackthis log" and so on so forth.

it's not just symantec. everyone's getting a piece of something out of Windows security.

just look at the ocean of personal firewall, anti-spyware / adware / malware balbalblabla available for Windows. smile.gif

just ask any casual user on LYN what do they have installed on their Windows machine. biggrin.gif there's countless 3rd party apps to handle Windows' insecurity. smile.gif
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Thats mainly because 98% of the world's computer are Windows based. Everyone wants a piece of the pie because anyone who get the initiative to do that will be an instant millionaire.

Anyway, for any virus maker to create virus for an Mac Os X is equivalent to finding a pin in the haystack. In other words, the virus makers would give up before it achieves any results. I don't know why up till now, people still can't grasp this simple principle.

Its the user base that attracts virus makers and those "legal" ones who tested it against Mac Os X are in no way comparable. Its called marketing gimmick.
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post Mar 25 2007, 09:10 PM

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98% of the world's computer is winblow based?

shit i cant even come up with that figure rofl
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QUOTE(lilzany @ Mar 25 2007, 06:10 PM)
Thats mainly because 98% of the world's computer are Windows based. Everyone wants a piece of the pie because anyone who get the initiative to do that will be an instant millionaire.

Anyway, for any virus maker to create virus for an Mac Os X is equivalent to finding a pin in the haystack. In other words, the virus makers would give up before it achieves any results. I don't know why up till now, people still can't grasp this simple principle.

Its the user base that attracts virus makers and those "legal" ones who tested it against Mac Os X are in no way comparable. Its called marketing gimmick.
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wah , really ? 98% of the world's computer are Windows based ? Then where to put UNIX-based ? Linux-based? BSD-based? Mac ? huhu

thats not included yet OS in mainframe ? SuperComputer ? workstation ? desktop ?

confused with that figure ,dude

for your information , ppl whom created OS other than Windows is not only for money, money and money ,dude

they do it for mankind and it have continuous on-going research and development , they want something more kick than windows .

People have choice to switch to Mac, Linux, UnIX or or any closed-source OS (i think the only closed-source OS in this world = Windows) whistling.gif

Security are already embedded in all OS , but user/sysadmin should play their role to secure it ...

regarding what u said as "marketing gimmick" , IMHO , Apple already have their own strategic plan to make their product as casual ...not being nerdie or daddy-o ...

I respect what MS do with their own market advertisement , and so do Apple .

But what to do..i'm already switched tongue.gif
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post Mar 26 2007, 12:09 AM

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i think if u put mac OSX in the position of windows it will get more vulnerabities than windows..
so many people trying to break windows because windows has to most users.. and more people is more familiar to it..

i wouldnt say windows is the most secure OS and OSX do not win the title either.. all OSes has its own flaws just waiting for people to exploit..

p/s.. i own macbook.. i use windoze.. and i love fedora core... all has their pro n cons.. not siding any OSes
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Windows is more secure? What a total CRAP.
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post Mar 26 2007, 01:08 PM

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well that depends. at the end of the day.. which one is ur pref?
as for myself.. working on Windows just like the image below :

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QUOTE(ckkean @ Mar 25 2007, 05:09 PM)
I think Mac is more secure compare to Windows...I've never kena virus and never being hacked before while using Mac but in PC, I'm always worry of being hacked or being attacked by millions of virus, trojan & spyware...
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Come on lah, don't judge secure or not like that one.

The fact is most of the hackers/virus creator out there targeted Windows platform because it is the most famous platform on earth, seem more than %94 of desktop market in the world used Windows. Only less than %5 used mac os. Let say mac os in future will gain %30 and above of desktop market, then by that time u will know whether this os secure or not.

So if u a hacker or virus creator which os do u interested the most?, if u create virus on mac platform, the impact is almost nothing because only %3 or less, so no one will know u as a virus creator. So r u still interested to attack Mac os?

p/s : I feel safe too while using Mac. Im not pro to windows more than Mac, but i used both most of the time.
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QUOTE(Timber @ Mar 26 2007, 12:45 PM)
Windows is more secure? What a total CRAP.
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CRAP or no CRAP.. it is still OSes... use at ur own will
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Actually, last two or three years,
I remember there's community that test which OS is more secure.
They install Mac OS, Fedora Core and Windows SP1.
All from the original CD without any updates and guess what?
Windows is the most secure OS without updates, Mac is first runner up and
FC is second runner up. And after they install updates,
Mac is at the first place of most secure, FC is still at second place and
Windows fall to third place.
Please remember that that test does not mean which OS is easier
to be affected by viruses or malware or adware, or which OS restart frequently,
they test in the aspect of security flaws, based on how many 'flags'
they manage to put in each OS.
Well at that time it was Windows SP1, Mac OS Panther and FC 3 or 4 I think.
Don't know what is the situation now. But I believe their test because they're all
from Open-source community - which of course won't support Windows.
But yes, they still tell the truth.
Sorry I could not remember what is the community name.
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QUOTE(kevler @ Mar 25 2007, 09:31 PM)
wah , really ? 98%  of the world's computer are Windows based ? Then where to put UNIX-based ? Linux-based? BSD-based? Mac ? huhu

thats not included yet OS in mainframe ? SuperComputer ? workstation ? desktop ?

confused with that figure ,dude

for your information , ppl whom created OS other than Windows is not only for money, money and money ,dude

they do it for mankind and it have continuous on-going research and development , they want something more kick than windows .

People have choice to switch to Mac, Linux, UnIX or or any closed-source OS (i think the only closed-source OS in this world = Windows)  whistling.gif

Security are already embedded in all OS , but user/sysadmin should play their role to secure it ...

regarding what u said as "marketing gimmick" , IMHO , Apple already have their own strategic plan to make their product as casual ...not being nerdie or daddy-o ...

I respect what MS do with their own market advertisement , and so do Apple .

But what to do..i'm already switched  tongue.gif
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The 98% is really true. I probably used the wrong word by saying Windows based. But certainly is not that far off the mark when users with Windows as their other OS is included in the score.
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post Mar 30 2007, 12:54 PM

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Hahaha...Simple, kenapa ada vista cetak rompak edition? Secure sangat ke kawan? Hahaha
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Mac OS X 10.4.8 also got pirate what ..wink.gif

but i' prefer to use original , and i'm still bajet to save for new Leopard

check out this article
http://www.omninerd.com/2007/03/26/articles/74

 

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