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post Sep 17 2019, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(ijan @ Sep 17 2019, 02:39 PM)
You've got something mixed up. A router is a trimmer is a router.

ar188 will be using his bigger router to route. Me will be using my router, to trim.
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Not mixed up. I just classify a small version of wood router as trimmer. It will struggle to do real routing job. The actual trimmer is actually something like this

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but now tool has evolved. Now you have bit with roller and router can also do trimming job. I just classify less powerful one as trimmer biggrin.gif
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post Sep 18 2019, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Sep 17 2019, 11:29 PM)
Not mixed up. I just classify a small version of wood router as trimmer. It will struggle to do real routing job. The actual trimmer is actually something like this

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but now tool has evolved. Now you have bit with roller and router can also do trimming job. I just classify less powerful one as trimmer  biggrin.gif
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just to add
even these shape of trim routers got many classes, and makita alone makes 3-4 different ones of this size.

but in market from low shitty 400w power to 900w power. biggrin.gif the one i use to level dining table slabs are 600-700w in power. dont need huge ass 2HP models.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 18 2019, 11:19 AM)
just to add
even these shape of trim routers got many classes, and makita alone makes 3-4 different ones of this size.

but in market from low shitty 400w power to 900w power.  biggrin.gif  the one i use to level dining table slabs are 600-700w in power. dont need huge ass 2HP models.
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Yes. Mine is just 500W+ trimmer. Good enough to trim my finger nails. biggrin.gif

Just work slow slow hobby stuff
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post Sep 18 2019, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 17 2019, 10:15 PM)
he means you got both, two units to do different things, not all in one unit.

but your laminate trimmer is more for trimming laminates and small bevel/roundovers

let the proper 18v trim routers to the heavier job of biting bigger chunks  tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 18 2019, 11:19 AM)
just to add
even these shape of trim routers got many classes, and makita alone makes 3-4 different ones of this size.

but in market from low shitty 400w power to 900w power.  biggrin.gif  the one i use to level dining table slabs are 600-700w in power. dont need huge ass 2HP models.
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I did consider the 18V Makita, but since the shape mcm sama normal trimmer.. plus battery pasang TOP heavy ooo...but i don't do wood liek you. Nice river flow table, mana end hasil?

Itu 2HP router was my first router, too heavy, noisy, powerful, jerk like hell, thus noob at that time, simpan store for so long. So use proper equipment for proper job scope. I know Makita has a700-900 small router/trimmer, can tukar fixed, offset, and plunged base.

QUOTE(Zot @ Sep 17 2019, 11:29 PM)
Not mixed up. I just classify a small version of wood router as trimmer. It will struggle to do real routing job. The actual trimmer is actually something like this

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but now tool has evolved. Now you have bit with roller and router can also do trimming job. I just classify less powerful one as trimmer  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Zot @ Sep 18 2019, 11:39 AM)
Yes. Mine is just 500W+ trimmer. Good enough to trim my finger nails.  biggrin.gif

Just work slow slow hobby stuff
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Like i said, a trimmer is a router is a trimmer...in the beginning, i pernah try to use the 2HP router to trim..laminate...noob at the time, no money, so buy big ass router, can trim laminate. How you use it, the smaller 700-900W makita can route quite well, like the 18V Ryobi and Makita do too, Well...

You are like me fren, same kindred spirit, cannot lawan itu taiko. How you apply edge banding? Any efficient method.
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post Sep 18 2019, 12:10 PM

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Ryobi Makita Ridgid and Bosch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKZG1kAByfU
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post Sep 18 2019, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(ijan @ Sep 18 2019, 12:10 PM)
Ryobi Makita Ridgid and Bosch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKZG1kAByfU
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as i mention earlier about using it to router things by plunging the bit into workpiece with the bosch, and even confirmed by the reviewer, that he cant see the bit clearly (6min mark he mentions this issue)


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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 18 2019, 12:28 PM)
as i mention earlier about using it to router things by plunging the bit into workpiece with the bosch, and even  confirmed by the reviewer, that he cant see the bit clearly (6min mark he mentions this issue)
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wah, you siap screenshot and go indetail

Yes, its quite hard to SEE, I do prefer a plastic clear base, at times i have to guess my work, then tengok again. Before this, i can see if the trim insufficient, can make adjustment. Now i just guess, and redo.

However, i handle the bosch cordless any other way, most of the time, i pegang terbalik sbb the long base/motor obstructed by other parts of the piece. But for my primary problem, it is a blessing!


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QUOTE(ijan @ Sep 18 2019, 12:35 PM)
wah, you siap screenshot and go indetail

Yes, its quite hard to SEE, I do prefer a plastic clear base, at times i have to guess my work, then tengok again. Before this, i can see if the trim insufficient, can make adjustment. Now i just guess, and redo.

However, i handle the bosch cordless any other way, most of the time, i pegang terbalik sbb the long base/motor obstructed by other parts of the piece. But for my primary problem, it is a blessing!
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cos its a good trimmer, i already wanted it a few mths back

i snap shot while viewing this vid cos when i saw this clip, its exactly the problem which i was concerned..

so potong stim abit as i already have bosch 12v system in the shop..lol.. may still get it if ever cheap used ebay unit (bare tool) appears. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 18 2019, 12:39 PM)
cos its a good trimmer, i already wanted it a few mths back

i snap shot while viewing this vid cos when i saw this clip, its exactly the problem which i was concerned..

so potong stim abit as i already have bosch 12v system in the shop..lol.. may still get it if ever cheap used ebay unit (bare tool) appears.  laugh.gif
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same same boss, i was aiming at it since last 1-2 years masa released. Baru perasan already in malaysia when i was at a Bosch show room, so tunggu Lajada 9.9 cun cun.

For specific work, its SUPERB! Your issue, pegang it terbalik laaa, haha! But need to consider the CW CCW issue.


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QUOTE(ijan @ Sep 18 2019, 12:46 PM)
same same boss, i was aiming at it since last 1-2 years masa released. Baru perasan already in malaysia when i was at a Bosch show room, so tunggu Lajada 9.9 cun cun.

For specific work, its SUPERB! Your issue, pegang it terbalik laaa, haha! But need to consider the CW CCW issue.
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heard the extra kick comes from the 4.0 batts, maybe that will help with the 12v unit pushing out more ummphh
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 18 2019, 12:58 PM)
heard the extra kick comes from the 4.0 batts, maybe that will help with the 12v unit pushing out more ummphh
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The YouTube review I saw was comparing 3A and 6A. The 3A was struggling when doing dado. Have to move real slow. The 6A much easier. To rpm is lower to preserve the power thus giving a more rougher finish compare to normal router, thus have to router much slower for better result.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 18 2019, 12:58 PM)
heard the extra kick comes from the 4.0 batts, maybe that will help with the 12v unit pushing out more ummphh
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i did see that review, but putting a 4/6AH battery would spoil the ergonomics, since my original intentions are only for laminates and banding. Maybe when i'm more into commercial, wood work boleh la kot.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 17 2019, 10:15 PM)
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Bro, where do you get the epoxy supply?
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Bro, where do you get the epoxy supply?
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we are doing testing on this item for some of our products, later can order from us, around 65/litre. biggrin.gif
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i want to get started wood working as weekend hobby.

my dream is to build a small kitchen cabinet and a shoe cabinet and enjoying building it.

i ask google and mostly start using table saw to cut out the pieces.

1) can anyone recommend a table saw? budget competitive

2) i think my toe kick support do not making much support. anyone have better idea and recommendation?


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QUOTE(dannygoh @ Oct 1 2019, 12:29 PM)
i want to get started wood working as weekend hobby.

my dream is to build a small kitchen cabinet and a shoe cabinet and enjoying building it.

i ask google and mostly start using table saw to cut out the pieces.

1) can anyone recommend a table saw? budget competitive

2) i think my toe kick support do not making much support. anyone have better idea and recommendation?
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1. Budget berapa bos? Stay awak from the Makita MLT100, can consider the Bosch GTS10J (drawside is the non-standard mitre guide, horrible mitre slide, and max fence width 18, but i can use it to cut 19 3/4). But mahu save, can get Stanley at half price. However, equipment quality ada effect with wood quality, and if its a hobby, dun mind splurging some moreeeeeee.

But...circular saw paling useful, unless you have big place, and a panel saw.


2. your toe kick, sebelah ada, sebelah tidak ada. and the side tidak ada, is again supported by a horizontal piece. A piece is always stronger, vertically high.
rather than placing it horizontal, make it vertical to actually give support. And the side ada, is flush with front, hows that a toe kick?

and, whats'up with your basic carcass design?
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QUOTE(ijan @ Oct 1 2019, 03:11 PM)
1. Budget berapa bos? Stay awak from the Makita MLT100, can consider the Bosch GTS10J (drawside is the non-standard mitre guide, horrible mitre slide, and max fence width 18, but i can use it to cut 19 3/4). But mahu save, can get Stanley at half price. However, equipment quality ada effect with wood quality, and if its a hobby, dun mind splurging some moreeeeeee.

But...circular saw paling useful, unless you have big place, and a panel saw.
2. your toe kick, sebelah ada, sebelah tidak ada. and the side tidak ada, is again supported by a horizontal piece. A piece is always stronger, vertically high.
rather than placing it horizontal, make it  vertical to actually give support. And the side ada, is flush with front, hows that a toe kick?

and, whats'up with your basic carcass design?
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1) Max i can get Dewalt DWE7470-B1 but how it compare to Stanley STST1825?

2) that side I hide the front toe kick to give u guys see behind the support structure.

3) I plan to build using Melamine chip board 15mm. I plan to build a cement counter top.

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QUOTE(dannygoh @ Oct 1 2019, 04:18 PM)
1) Max i can get Dewalt DWE7470-B1 but how it compare to Stanley STST1825?

2) that side I hide the front toe kick to give u guys see behind the support structure.

3) I plan to build using Melamine chip board 15mm. I plan to build a cement counter top.
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The review I read from professional carpenter even favor Dewalt over Bosch. The ranking is like this:
Dewalt>Stanley>Black&Decker. They are actually under same roof. The warranty on many tools are 3 years, 2 years and 1 year respectively. I'd say Dewalt is for pro, Stanley semi-pro and B&D home DIY. smile.gif


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I've touch a stanley table saw before. Looks flimsy but truth is I have no experience using one. Err...I'd still avoid it. Probably best bet Dewalt/Bosch.
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QUOTE(Zot @ Oct 1 2019, 04:27 PM)
The review I read from professional carpenter even favor Dewalt over Bosch. The ranking is like this:
Dewalt>Stanley>Black&Decker. They are actually under same roof. The warranty on many tools are 3 years, 2 years and 1 year respectively. I'd say Dewalt is for pro, Stanley semi-pro and B&D home DIY.  smile.gif
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If is like that, maybe i go for Stanley. It just a weekend hobby and no need to spend so much. Save few hundred and go for others tools.

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