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6UE5T
post Jun 6 2017, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 6 2017, 02:51 PM)
I see, good good.

You have any other similar rim recommendations that won't break my bank?
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Taiwan made Advanti Storm series, cheap and cheerful and can get new for about the same budget or even less. Of course it's not forged but flow forming technology so pretty lightweight also.

Edit: or you want to just buy mine? brows.gif

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post Jun 6 2017, 07:26 PM

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RE003 might have lower threadwear rating. I have all four new RE003 on my car since 25k-28k km ago and I can vouch that I hardly see much wear. Even the Mrs and my colleagues were surprised when I asked them to gauge the age/mileage of my RE003s. I haven't tried PS4 yet. Most likely will fit them on wife's car. In summary, my RE003's dry and wet grip is nothing short of awesome. I suspect the only areas that Michelin PS4 will eclipse it are in wet grip and aquaplaning resistance.

QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 5 2017, 11:38 PM)
I think FK510 can be cheaper than V701. This is based on the pricing of the previous FK453 model and because I never heard/seen Yokohama cheaper than Falken for similar competing models but I can be wrong.

RE003 is strong in the dry and reasonable/decent in the wet but the tread wear is only 220 and already confirmed will finish faster. The compound is not easily chipped though, similar to my CSC5 which only chips a little bit so far as opposed to PS3 or F1D5 which are chipping a lot more.

Kia & VW? No thx bro, I don't have confidence yet in Korean cars and also in VW. Furthermore, those are big cars. If I were to change, I would want smaller, more agile, and faster, don't want as big as my X anymore, AWD turbo with simple manual gearbox would be best. Anyway economy is tough, no money to spend on fancy cars coz got other much more important priorities.
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post Jun 6 2017, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(SkyCaptain @ Jun 6 2017, 07:26 PM)
RE003 might have lower threadwear rating. I have all four new RE003 on my car since 25k-28k km ago and I can vouch that I hardly see much wear. Even the Mrs and my colleagues were surprised when I asked them to gauge the age/mileage of my RE003s. I haven't tried PS4 yet. Most likely will fit them on wife's car. In summary, my RE003's dry and wet grip is nothing short of awesome. I suspect the only areas that Michelin PS4 will eclipse it are in wet grip and aquaplaning resistance.
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Ic, from some other forum, it seems the wear is faster than usual. Maybe you don't drive aggressively in the corners, hence the wear is slow? But the 220 tread wear rating is correct and supposed to indicate it should wear out faster. Other competing tires usually have tread wear rating of around 300.

Yes, PS4 should be better in the wet grip and aquaplaning resistance than RE003.
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post Jun 6 2017, 08:07 PM

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I don't drive aggressively (spiritedly is more appropriate) but I definitely trash corners more often than not. Let me compare it against the PS4 for a bigger picture. Should be getting them PS4s in the next month or so.

QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 6 2017, 07:52 PM)
Ic, from some other forum, it seems the wear is faster than usual. Maybe you don't drive aggressively in the corners, hence the wear is slow? But the 220 tread wear rating is correct and supposed to indicate it should wear out faster. Other competing tires usually have tread wear rating of around 300.

Yes, PS4 should be better in the wet grip and aquaplaning resistance than RE003.
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post Jun 6 2017, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(SkyCaptain @ Jun 6 2017, 08:07 PM)
I don't drive aggressively (spiritedly is more appropriate) but I definitely trash corners more often than not. Let me compare it against the PS4 for a bigger picture. Should be getting them PS4s in the next month or so.
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Great, looking forward to your reviews then. What car do you drive btw?
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post Jun 7 2017, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 6 2017, 03:17 PM)

Edit: or you want to just buy mine?  brows.gif
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I'm tempted tongue.gif You want to exchange with my OEM rims??

QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 6 2017, 07:52 PM)
Ic, from some other forum, it seems the wear is faster than usual. Maybe you don't drive aggressively in the corners, hence the wear is slow? But the 220 tread wear rating is correct and supposed to indicate it should wear out faster. Other competing tires usually have tread wear rating of around 300.

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Partly i think the car weight has some effect on this. Mine with 240 rating and i'm approaching 33k, still got 40% thread left. Can reasonably last till 40k or 45k at a stretch. Not too bad for a performance based tyres.

But i pump in above average air pressure at 260kpa. Still within the recommended air pressure range, but on the higher end.
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post Jun 7 2017, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 7 2017, 03:22 PM)
I'm tempted  tongue.gif You want to exchange with my OEM rims??
Partly i think the car weight has some effect on this. Mine with 240 rating and i'm approaching 33k, still got 40% thread left. Can reasonably last till 40k or 45k at a stretch. Not too bad for a performance based tyres.

But i pump in above average air pressure at 260kpa. Still within the recommended air pressure range, but on the higher end.
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Hahaha, sorry not interested in any OE rims coz they're heavy! Your 18' at least weigh 11-12kg per piece, that's like 60-70% heavier than my forged rims.

Yeah, weight do plays a part too.
Wah you pump pretty hard leh, can be quite harsh, no? I only pump 240-245kpa. Already old man, so cannot take hard ride. laugh.gif

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post Jun 7 2017, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 7 2017, 04:00 PM)
Hahaha, sorry not interested in any OE rims coz they're heavy! Your 18' at least weigh 11-12kg per piece, that's like 60-70% heavier than my forged rims.

Yeah, weight do plays a part too.
Wah you pump pretty hard leh, can be quite harsh, no? I only pump 240-245kpa. Already old man, so cannot take hard ride.  laugh.gif
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If i cabut your wheels, how are you to go about, you still need wheels to move around right? So temporarily use the OEM wheels for the time being in your hunt for a new set tongue.gif What will you be aiming if you were to change?

Not too bad la, i pumped 270-280kpa before and that one feels really damn harsh. For me, below 270kpa still ok, below 240kpa steering response feels a little mushy. Slightly harder also have some favourable impact on my fuel consumption. Not so much on the Mazda, but the previous car can see about 3% improvement.

Hopefully, the CPC6 can improve the NVH a further notch. My mum complained that can't hear me talking when driving the Mazda on a faster pace.
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post Jun 7 2017, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 7 2017, 05:27 PM)
If i cabut your wheels, how are you to go about, you still need wheels to move around right? So temporarily use the OEM wheels for the time being in your hunt for a new set  tongue.gif  What will you be aiming if you were to change?

Not too bad la, i pumped 270-280kpa before and that one feels really damn harsh. For me, below 270kpa still ok, below 240kpa steering response feels a little mushy. Slightly harder also have some favourable impact on my fuel consumption. Not so much on the Mazda, but the previous car can see about 3% improvement.

Hopefully, the CPC6 can improve the NVH a further notch. My mum complained that can't hear me talking when driving the Mazda on a faster pace.
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I still have my std 16' rims with expired tires! laugh.gif As replacement I will either go with wider 17' or even go 18' provided can get good lightweight ones at affordable prices and original made in Japan as well.

Like I said, I'm getting old already so my tolerance to hard ride might be much less than younger people! biggrin.gif

I think the CPC6 might not be that quiet too, the EU noise rating is still 72db so still typical like other similar high performance tires. CSC5, PS3 & 4 rating are around 71-73db. In contrast, the F1A3 is rated at only 68db, which is over twice more quiet than those others.

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post Jun 8 2017, 09:31 AM

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Bro 6UE5T,

Wanna ask u.

My ori tyre size was 205/55/R16. I have upgraded to 215/45/R17, is it a correct size up? Thks.
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post Jun 8 2017, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(jimmyteng18 @ Jun 8 2017, 09:31 AM)
Bro 6UE5T,

Wanna ask u.

My ori tyre size was 205/55/R16. I have upgraded to 215/45/R17, is it a correct size up? Thks.
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I checked online, seems 225/45/R17 is the best up size. Disadvantage is tyre more expensive than 215/45.
Advantages?

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post Jun 8 2017, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(jimmyteng18 @ Jun 8 2017, 09:43 AM)
I checked online, seems 225/45/R17 is the best up size. Disadvantage is tyre more expensive than 215/45.
Advantages?
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Yes 225/45/17 is the better conversion size.
Advantages: better grip coz wider, and more comfortable coz 0.4cm taller sidewall plus also slightly higher ground clearance due to that 0.4cm. Subjectively looks better too coz less fender gaps by 0.4cm and looks meaner coz wider from the back. So in summary, should've gone with 225/45/17 coz it's the better choice.
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 7 2017, 05:38 PM)
I still have my std 16' rims with expired tires!  laugh.gif  As replacement I will either go with wider 17' or even go 18' provided can get good lightweight ones at affordable prices and original made in Japan as well.

Like I said, I'm getting old already so my tolerance to hard ride might be much less than younger people!  biggrin.gif

I think the CPC6 might not be that quiet too, the EU noise rating is still 72db so still typical like other similar high performance tires. CSC5, PS3 & 4 rating are around 71-73db. In contrast, the F1A3 is rated at only 68db, which is over twice more quiet than those others.
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Found some good replacements that could suit you :
http://konigwheels.com/wheels/main-line-wheels/z-in/
http://konigwheels.com/wheels/flow-formed-wheels/ultraform/
http://konigwheels.com/wheels/flow-formed-wheels/rennform/

They licensed Enkei's MAT process and has a plant in Taiwan, so manufacturing cost and duties are lower. Got a quote before for a set of 18in for around RM2000 almost 1 years ago.

Ya, noted on the noise ratings for CPC6, just hope that they might release a more comprehensive list of label ratings. Some sizes might have more favourable rating. But if that's the case, i might fall back to the V701 or FK510 as they are rated between 68-70db. Just don't know how hard it is to get a set of FK510...

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post Jun 8 2017, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 8 2017, 10:54 AM)
Found some good replacements that could suit you :
http://konigwheels.com/wheels/main-line-wheels/z-in/
http://konigwheels.com/wheels/flow-formed-wheels/ultraform/
http://konigwheels.com/wheels/flow-formed-wheels/rennform/

They licensed Enkei's MAT process and has a plant in Taiwan, so manufacturing cost and duties are lower.  Got a quote before for a set of 18in for around RM2000 almost 1 years ago.

Ya, noted on the noise ratings for CPC6, just hope that they might release a more comprehensive list of label ratings. Some sizes might have more favourable rating. But if that's the case, i might fall back to the V701 or FK510 as they are rated between 68-70db. Just don't know how hard it is to get a set of FK510...
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I heard from a forum member in ZTH, that Konig is not as strong and a bit prone to knocks & dings. For Taiwan made, Advanti is better even though using the same technology from Enkei. Anyway I'm more inclined to look for used Japanese rims.
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 8 2017, 10:46 AM)
Yes 225/45/17 is the better conversion size.
Advantages: better grip coz wider, and more comfortable coz 0.4cm taller sidewall plus also slightly higher ground clearance due to that 0.4cm. Subjectively looks better too coz less fender gaps by 0.4cm and looks meaner coz wider from the back. So in summary, should've gone with 225/45/17 coz it's the better choice.
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Bro,
My rim specs:

SIZE : 17X7.5JJ
PCD : 5X108
ET : +38

can fit 225/45/R17?
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post Jun 8 2017, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(jimmyteng18 @ Jun 8 2017, 12:12 PM)
Bro,
My rim specs:

SIZE : 17X7.5JJ
PCD : 5X108
ET : +38

can fit 225/45/R17?
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can
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post Jun 8 2017, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 8 2017, 01:19 PM)
can
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Thks bro wkc5657.

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post Jun 8 2017, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(jimmyteng18 @ Jun 8 2017, 12:12 PM)
Bro,
My rim specs:

SIZE : 17X7.5JJ
PCD : 5X108
ET : +38

can fit 225/45/R17?
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Yes can, 225 tires can fit rims from 7jj-8.5jj with 7.5-8jj as the ideal fit.
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 8 2017, 02:07 PM)
Yes can, 225 tires can fit rims from 7jj-8.5jj with 7.5-8jj as the ideal fit.
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Thks bro 6UE5T.
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post Jun 10 2017, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 6 2017, 10:36 AM)
The previous version FK453 was available here, so I'm hoping the FK510 should be too.

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Went hunting for Fk510 today, shop called distributor, no stock. And tried some hunting in singapore, also can't find any traces of it. Either it will be damn late, or maybe rebranded. Judging from the speed of Michelin and Continental launching their latest products, i believe will start seeing the CPC6 on our shores around Q3 this year.

Had so much hope for the FK510...but reality is that it is not arriving anytime soon. I'm starting to consider the Nitto Invo, found 1 place distributing, will go ask another day when free. The water evacuation groves looked damn insane, just wonder the price....or maybe i should fall back to the V701 for latest tyres at a pinch. F1A3 very promising, but priced on average higher than the PS4 mega_shok.gif

You got any idea about Nitto tyres?

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