QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 2 2017, 05:09 PM)
The Malaysian website doesn't have it yet so probably not yet except from individual direct importers.Continental Premium Contact 6, Anyone started selling this?
Continental Premium Contact 6, Anyone started selling this?
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Jun 2 2017, 05:28 PM
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Jun 4 2017, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 4 2017, 05:00 PM) This seller in singapore listed it in their website : What size are you using? If the price is close to PS4, I'd suggest better go with PS4.http://kimhoeco.com/product/continental-pr...-6-2354018-95y/ The price seems good, even better with the discount coupon code. Wonder how the price will be translated when it arrives on our shore. Feel tempted to get it change there as my very own Christmas present half a year later |
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Jun 5 2017, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 4 2017, 09:39 PM) 225/45/R18 or 235/40/R18. Better stick to 225/45/18 coz much more common size so cheaper, and slightly more comfortable coz taller sidewall too.I salivate for the PS4, but I don't really mind trading a little bit of performance for more comfort and a little more thread life in the CPC6. Not to forget that need to fork out about 20% extra compared to CPC6. My main target is the Dunlop Sportmaxx RT2. Loved the thread and the surface design, the tyre label ratings also seemed very good. But seems like Dunlop is not releasing this sleeper in the region. Even singapore still stuck with version 1. I know can order, but don't want to risk a blowout without a quick replacement available. At least i have the feeling that CPC6 will have greater likeliness to be launched here rather than the RT2. I doubt CPC6 will last longer than PS4, probably about the same lifetime at best. Because usually Continental high performance tires have a bit lower tread wear rating (280). Usually Continental tires are expensive too (especially those good ones made in Europe) but yeah if it's really 20% cheaper then should be a good option to try. Other good option if you want comfort in a high performance tires is the new F1A3 becasue it's the quietest but I also doubt it's cheaper coz they're still made in Germany. Yup, unfortunately here in Malaysia nobody sells the RT series! Maybe because here the Dunlop brand is under Continental and it will clash with the CSC series hence they don't import them. It's also a good tire that I wanted to try but cannot get one. It will not last long though coz tread wear rating is only 240 which is even less than CSC5. |
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Jun 5 2017, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 5 2017, 04:25 PM) I did consider F1A3, but looking at the price, i'm not so keen anymore as the CPC6 seemed to excel more than the F1A3 generally. Hehehe if based on that review, I'm even more interested to try that Falken FK510 now! From this review, the CPC6 seems to have wear characteristics improved pretty well : http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2017-...r-Tyre-Test.htm Some time ago when the PS4 was launched, michelin's uk website have a comparison webpage with a few counterparts. It excelled in all except for wear against the F1A3. But seems like the page was replaced. Under the test above, the F1A3's wear is inferior to the CPC6, so highly likely that it can outlast the PS4. Well, you can consider CPC6 for your next change. The marketing positioning for this product is to replace both CSC5 and CPC5, but improved upon them. Will just be slightly inferior to CSC6, but have very good noise and comfort ratings. You cannot trust reviews/comparisons posted in their own website, surely biased! All F1s have tread wear rating of 300. I used F1D5 before and it lasted >50k km despite my occasional abusive driving, so I expect the the F1A3 also should last the about same. Right now I'm using CSC5 and it wears a bit faster than the F1D5. But yeah the CPC6 is designed to improve on the CSC5 on comfort, noise, and maybe durability a bit but not really on ultimate performance, have to wait and see for more reviews. So far this CSC5 is the best I've ever used though. Note though in that review above, aquaplaning resistance of the CPC6 is not so good, and for Malaysia where got often heavy rain, aquaplaning resistance is quite an important criteria. That's why PS3 was so popular here. Btw you're driving the Mazda 3 right? If I were you I'd actually downgrade to 17 using lightweight rims and 235/45/17 tires, much more beneficial for performance and comfort too. |
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Jun 5 2017, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 5 2017, 05:08 PM) FK510 also a rare creature here, asked a few places also don't have. This tyre also under my radar, just not sure about the cost of it. Just that the rolling resistance quite high, could have a noticeable impact on fuel economy. Falken should be much cheaper than those top brands, maybe just around 60% of the price of the those.Aquaplanning resistance should still be better than a worn down tyre. The much received V701 also had an issue with aquaplanning, the tone in the review seemed to be harsher than the CPC6. You very observant, yes i'm driving Mazda3. Already a bit of a pinch to get proper replacement tyres, cannot break a hole in my budget for another set of rims Yeah V701 doesn't look promising in that review. It only won as the most comfortable tire! My X? Nothing special la, just a normal sedan, already getting old some more. Some people already say no more value one. This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Jun 5 2017, 07:02 PM |
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Jun 5 2017, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 5 2017, 11:09 PM) I think the V701 would be the most affordable, followed by the FK510, then the CPC6. I think FK510 can be cheaper than V701. This is based on the pricing of the previous FK453 model and because I never heard/seen Yokohama cheaper than Falken for similar competing models but I can be wrong.If i'm adventurous, i may even try the RE003 for the fun of it Change the X lah RE003 is strong in the dry and reasonable/decent in the wet but the tread wear is only 220 and already confirmed will finish faster. The compound is not easily chipped though, similar to my CSC5 which only chips a little bit so far as opposed to PS3 or F1D5 which are chipping a lot more. Kia & VW? No thx bro, I don't have confidence yet in Korean cars and also in VW. Furthermore, those are big cars. If I were to change, I would want smaller, more agile, and faster, don't want as big as my X anymore, AWD turbo with simple manual gearbox would be best. Anyway economy is tough, no money to spend on fancy cars coz got other much more important priorities. |
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Jun 6 2017, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 6 2017, 10:26 AM) Didn't know that the position and Falken and Yokohama as such, i presume them to be of same market positioning. I'll try another shop that has Falken signboard, see whether can get this or not. The FK510 could be like the Sportmaxx RT2, never to be introduced into our markets here. The previous version FK453 was available here, so I'm hoping the FK510 should be too.By the way, earlier on you talked about lightened wheels. May i know what is your setup and what brand of wheels you use? I'm using Prodrive forged rims GC-07C, staggered sizes 17x7.5/8.5 (weight 6.6/6.9kg) with tires CSC5 225/50/17 fr & CSC3 245/45/17 rr. |
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Jun 6 2017, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 6 2017, 11:18 AM) wow forged Well it's an old rim so I bought them used hence already more affordable at rm2+k (forgot exactly how much already, need to check the receipt).I shouldn't be able to afford it, i'm more of a cheapskate looking for well conditioned 2nd hand flow formed wheels of reputable brands not exceeding 3k. |
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Jun 6 2017, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 6 2017, 11:54 AM) Oh, not too bad. Does it look like this : Exactly the same as the one in mudah. http://www.mudah.my/Prodrive+gc+07c+17+jap...su-53186085.htm https://sg.carousell.com/p/original-prodriv...uery%3Dprodrive It's not that expensive because it's not as popular as Rays but actually similar class of rims. It's actually also made by Rays. The good thing about it, it's very rare and no fakes/replicas are made, unlike those popular ones. |
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Jun 6 2017, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 6 2017, 02:51 PM) Taiwan made Advanti Storm series, cheap and cheerful and can get new for about the same budget or even less. Of course it's not forged but flow forming technology so pretty lightweight also.Edit: or you want to just buy mine? This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Jun 7 2017, 10:20 AM |
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QUOTE(SkyCaptain @ Jun 6 2017, 07:26 PM) RE003 might have lower threadwear rating. I have all four new RE003 on my car since 25k-28k km ago and I can vouch that I hardly see much wear. Even the Mrs and my colleagues were surprised when I asked them to gauge the age/mileage of my RE003s. I haven't tried PS4 yet. Most likely will fit them on wife's car. In summary, my RE003's dry and wet grip is nothing short of awesome. I suspect the only areas that Michelin PS4 will eclipse it are in wet grip and aquaplaning resistance. Ic, from some other forum, it seems the wear is faster than usual. Maybe you don't drive aggressively in the corners, hence the wear is slow? But the 220 tread wear rating is correct and supposed to indicate it should wear out faster. Other competing tires usually have tread wear rating of around 300.Yes, PS4 should be better in the wet grip and aquaplaning resistance than RE003. |
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QUOTE(SkyCaptain @ Jun 6 2017, 08:07 PM) I don't drive aggressively (spiritedly is more appropriate) but I definitely trash corners more often than not. Let me compare it against the PS4 for a bigger picture. Should be getting them PS4s in the next month or so. Great, looking forward to your reviews then. What car do you drive btw? |
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 7 2017, 03:22 PM) I'm tempted Hahaha, sorry not interested in any OE rims coz they're heavy! Your 18' at least weigh 11-12kg per piece, that's like 60-70% heavier than my forged rims.Partly i think the car weight has some effect on this. Mine with 240 rating and i'm approaching 33k, still got 40% thread left. Can reasonably last till 40k or 45k at a stretch. Not too bad for a performance based tyres. But i pump in above average air pressure at 260kpa. Still within the recommended air pressure range, but on the higher end. Yeah, weight do plays a part too. Wah you pump pretty hard leh, can be quite harsh, no? I only pump 240-245kpa. Already old man, so cannot take hard ride. This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Jun 7 2017, 04:01 PM |
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 7 2017, 05:27 PM) If i cabut your wheels, how are you to go about, you still need wheels to move around right? So temporarily use the OEM wheels for the time being in your hunt for a new set I still have my std 16' rims with expired tires! Not too bad la, i pumped 270-280kpa before and that one feels really damn harsh. For me, below 270kpa still ok, below 240kpa steering response feels a little mushy. Slightly harder also have some favourable impact on my fuel consumption. Not so much on the Mazda, but the previous car can see about 3% improvement. Hopefully, the CPC6 can improve the NVH a further notch. My mum complained that can't hear me talking when driving the Mazda on a faster pace. Like I said, I'm getting old already so my tolerance to hard ride might be much less than younger people! I think the CPC6 might not be that quiet too, the EU noise rating is still 72db so still typical like other similar high performance tires. CSC5, PS3 & 4 rating are around 71-73db. In contrast, the F1A3 is rated at only 68db, which is over twice more quiet than those others. This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Jun 7 2017, 06:53 PM |
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QUOTE(jimmyteng18 @ Jun 8 2017, 09:43 AM) I checked online, seems 225/45/R17 is the best up size. Disadvantage is tyre more expensive than 215/45. Yes 225/45/17 is the better conversion size.Advantages? Advantages: better grip coz wider, and more comfortable coz 0.4cm taller sidewall plus also slightly higher ground clearance due to that 0.4cm. Subjectively looks better too coz less fender gaps by 0.4cm and looks meaner coz wider from the back. So in summary, should've gone with 225/45/17 coz it's the better choice. |
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 8 2017, 10:54 AM) Found some good replacements that could suit you : I heard from a forum member in ZTH, that Konig is not as strong and a bit prone to knocks & dings. For Taiwan made, Advanti is better even though using the same technology from Enkei. Anyway I'm more inclined to look for used Japanese rims.http://konigwheels.com/wheels/main-line-wheels/z-in/ http://konigwheels.com/wheels/flow-formed-wheels/ultraform/ http://konigwheels.com/wheels/flow-formed-wheels/rennform/ They licensed Enkei's MAT process and has a plant in Taiwan, so manufacturing cost and duties are lower. Got a quote before for a set of 18in for around RM2000 almost 1 years ago. Ya, noted on the noise ratings for CPC6, just hope that they might release a more comprehensive list of label ratings. Some sizes might have more favourable rating. But if that's the case, i might fall back to the V701 or FK510 as they are rated between 68-70db. Just don't know how hard it is to get a set of FK510... |
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 10 2017, 11:59 PM) Went hunting for Fk510 today, shop called distributor, no stock. And tried some hunting in singapore, also can't find any traces of it. Either it will be damn late, or maybe rebranded. Judging from the speed of Michelin and Continental launching their latest products, i believe will start seeing the CPC6 on our shores around Q3 this year. Yes F1A3 seems more expensive now since still made in Germany as opposed to PS4 made in Thailand.Had so much hope for the FK510...but reality is that it is not arriving anytime soon. I'm starting to consider the Nitto Invo, found 1 place distributing, will go ask another day when free. The water evacuation groves looked damn insane, just wonder the price....or maybe i should fall back to the V701 for latest tyres at a pinch. F1A3 very promising, but priced on average higher than the PS4 You got any idea about Nitto tyres? Not sure, never tired Nitto before and never read any reviews on them yet. |
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QUOTE(farhanah @ Nov 20 2017, 07:32 PM) It this continental tyres is suitable for every car? my car id honda civic but im not sure either conti tyres can use for my car or not? Of course la, it's just like any other tires. Not because the brand name Continental then it's only suitable for continental cars! Continental cars is also a wrong/misleading terminology anyway, only used by Malaysians, don't know how! Nobody else in the world use the term conti cars. |
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Nov 21 2017, 03:59 PM) If i'm not mistaken, the term "continental cars" has the continental word it it due to the fact that it is from another continent, hence "continental". But in general, usually relates to western branded cars. As if Asia is not a continent hence cars made in Asia are not called continental cars? |
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