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post Jun 2 2017, 05:09 PM, updated 6y ago

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Singapore has started selling this tyre. Anyone started selling this on our side?
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post Jun 4 2017, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 2 2017, 05:28 PM)
The Malaysian website doesn't have it yet so probably not yet except from individual direct importers.
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This seller in singapore listed it in their website :
http://kimhoeco.com/product/continental-pr...-6-2354018-95y/

The price seems good, even better with the discount coupon code. Wonder how the price will be translated when it arrives on our shore.

Feel tempted to get it change there as my very own Christmas present half a year later hmm.gif
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post Jun 4 2017, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 4 2017, 06:11 PM)
What size are you using? If the price is close to PS4, I'd suggest better go with PS4.
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225/45/R18 or 235/40/R18.

I salivate for the PS4, but I don't really mind trading a little bit of performance for more comfort and a little more thread life in the CPC6. Not to forget that need to fork out about 20% extra compared to CPC6.

My main target is the Dunlop Sportmaxx RT2. Loved the thread and the surface design, the tyre label ratings also seemed very good. But seems like Dunlop is not releasing this sleeper in the region. Even singapore still stuck with version 1. I know can order, but don't want to risk a blowout without a quick replacement available. At least i have the feeling that CPC6 will have greater likeliness to be launched here rather than the RT2.
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post Jun 5 2017, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 5 2017, 10:55 AM)
Better stick to 225/45/18 coz much more common size so cheaper, and slightly more comfortable coz taller sidewall too.

I doubt CPC6 will last longer than PS4, probably about the same lifetime at best. Because usually Continental high performance tires have a bit lower tread wear rating (280). Usually Continental tires are expensive too (especially those good ones made in Europe) but yeah if it's really 20% cheaper then should be a good option to try. Other good option if you want comfort in a high performance tires is the new F1A3 becasue it's the quietest but I also doubt it's cheaper coz they're still made in Germany.

Yup, unfortunately here in Malaysia nobody sells the RT series! Maybe because here the Dunlop brand is under Continental and it will clash with the CSC series hence they don't import them. It's also a good tire that I wanted to try but cannot get one. It will not last long though coz tread wear rating is only 240 which is even less than CSC5.
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I did consider F1A3, but looking at the price, i'm not so keen anymore as the CPC6 seemed to excel more than the F1A3 generally.

From this review, the CPC6 seems to have wear characteristics improved pretty well :
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2017-...r-Tyre-Test.htm

Some time ago when the PS4 was launched, michelin's uk website have a comparison webpage with a few counterparts. It excelled in all except for wear against the F1A3. But seems like the page was replaced. Under the test above, the F1A3's wear is inferior to the CPC6, so highly likely that it can outlast the PS4.

Well, you can consider CPC6 for your next change. The marketing positioning for this product is to replace both CSC5 and CPC5, but improved upon them. Will just be slightly inferior to CSC6, but have very good noise and comfort ratings.

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post Jun 5 2017, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 5 2017, 04:54 PM)
Hehehe if based on that review, I'm even more interested to try that Falken FK510 now!  biggrin.gif  Seems like very cheap and cheerful type of deal.

You cannot trust reviews/comparisons posted in their own website, surely biased!  biggrin.gif

All F1s have tread wear rating of 300. I used F1D5 before and it lasted >50k km despite my occasional abusive driving, so I expect the the F1A3 also should last the about same. Right now I'm using CSC5 and it wears a bit faster than the F1D5. But yeah the CPC6 is designed to improve on the CSC5 on comfort, noise, and maybe durability a bit but not really on ultimate performance, have to wait and see for more reviews. So far this CSC5 is the best I've ever used though.

Note though in that review above, aquaplaning resistance of the CPC6 is not so good, and for Malaysia where got often heavy rain, aquaplaning resistance is quite an important criteria. That's why PS3 was so popular here.

Btw you're driving the Mazda 3 right? If I were you I'd actually downgrade to 17 using lightweight rims and 235/45/17 tires, much more beneficial for performance and comfort too.
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FK510 also a rare creature here, asked a few places also don't have. This tyre also under my radar, just not sure about the cost of it. Just that the rolling resistance quite high, could have a noticeable impact on fuel economy.

Aquaplanning resistance should still be better than a worn down tyre. The much received V701 also had an issue with aquaplanning, the tone in the review seemed to be harsher than the CPC6.

You very observant, yes i'm driving Mazda3. Already a bit of a pinch to get proper replacement tyres, cannot break a hole in my budget for another set of rims tongue.gif Where are you based, want to try you X someday laugh.gif

This post has been edited by wkc5657: Jun 5 2017, 05:12 PM
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post Jun 5 2017, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 5 2017, 06:40 PM)
Falken should be much cheaper than those top brands, maybe just around 60% of the price of the those.

Yeah V701 doesn't look promising in that review. It Yeah V701 doesn't look promising in that review. It only won as the most comfortable tire!  biggrin.gif only won as the most comfortable tire!  biggrin.gif

My X? Nothing special la, just a normal sedan, already getting old some more. Some people already say no more value one.  laugh.gif
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I think the V701 would be the most affordable, followed by the FK510, then the CPC6.

If i'm adventurous, i may even try the RE003 for the fun of it laugh.gif Strange that this tyre can't be found on european shores, only the predecessor RE002 available there. Was looking for the label rating only found this out. The exact opposite of the Dunlop issue we discussed earlier.

Change the X lah sweat.gif The Kia Stinger could be a nice replacement, or maybe the VW Arteon if the wallet feeling more generous tongue.gif
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post Jun 6 2017, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 5 2017, 11:38 PM)
I think FK510 can be cheaper than V701. This is based on the pricing of the previous FK453 model and because I never heard/seen Yokohama cheaper than Falken for similar competing models but I can be wrong.

RE003 is strong in the dry and reasonable/decent in the wet but the tread wear is only 220 and already confirmed will finish faster. The compound is not easily chipped though, similar to my CSC5 which only chips a little bit so far as opposed to PS3 or F1D5 which are chipping a lot more.

Kia & VW? No thx bro, I don't have confidence yet in Korean cars and also in VW. Furthermore, those are big cars. If I were to change, I would want smaller, more agile, and faster, don't want as big as my X anymore, AWD turbo with simple manual gearbox would be best. Anyway economy is tough, no money to spend on fancy cars coz got other much more important priorities.
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Didn't know that the position and Falken and Yokohama as such, i presume them to be of same market positioning. I'll try another shop that has Falken signboard, see whether can get this or not. The FK510 could be like the Sportmaxx RT2, never to be introduced into our markets here.

By the way, earlier on you talked about lightened wheels. May i know what is your setup and what brand of wheels you use?
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 6 2017, 10:36 AM)
The previous version FK453 was available here, so I'm hoping the FK510 should be too.

I'm using Prodrive forged rims GC-07C, staggered sizes 17x7.5/8.5 (weight 6.6/6.9kg) with tires CSC5 225/50/17 fr & CSC3 245/45/17 rr.
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wow forged shocking.gif Must be expensive, how much you paid for it?

I shouldn't be able to afford it, i'm more of a cheapskate looking for well conditioned 2nd hand flow formed wheels of reputable brands not exceeding 3k.


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post Jun 6 2017, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 6 2017, 11:46 AM)
Well it's an old rim so I bought them used hence already more affordable at rm2+k (forgot exactly how much already, need to check the receipt).
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Oh, not too bad. Does it look like this :

http://www.mudah.my/Prodrive+gc+07c+17+jap...su-53186085.htm

https://sg.carousell.com/p/original-prodriv...uery%3Dprodrive
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post Jun 6 2017, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 6 2017, 12:16 PM)
Exactly the same as the one in mudah.  smile.gif
It's not that expensive because it's not as popular as Rays but actually similar class of rims. It's actually also made by Rays. The good thing about it, it's very rare and no fakes/replicas are made, unlike those popular ones.  smile.gif
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I see, good good.

You have any other similar rim recommendations that won't break my bank?
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post Jun 7 2017, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 6 2017, 03:17 PM)

Edit: or you want to just buy mine?  brows.gif
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I'm tempted tongue.gif You want to exchange with my OEM rims??

QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 6 2017, 07:52 PM)
Ic, from some other forum, it seems the wear is faster than usual. Maybe you don't drive aggressively in the corners, hence the wear is slow? But the 220 tread wear rating is correct and supposed to indicate it should wear out faster. Other competing tires usually have tread wear rating of around 300.

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Partly i think the car weight has some effect on this. Mine with 240 rating and i'm approaching 33k, still got 40% thread left. Can reasonably last till 40k or 45k at a stretch. Not too bad for a performance based tyres.

But i pump in above average air pressure at 260kpa. Still within the recommended air pressure range, but on the higher end.
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post Jun 7 2017, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 7 2017, 04:00 PM)
Hahaha, sorry not interested in any OE rims coz they're heavy! Your 18' at least weigh 11-12kg per piece, that's like 60-70% heavier than my forged rims.

Yeah, weight do plays a part too.
Wah you pump pretty hard leh, can be quite harsh, no? I only pump 240-245kpa. Already old man, so cannot take hard ride.  laugh.gif
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If i cabut your wheels, how are you to go about, you still need wheels to move around right? So temporarily use the OEM wheels for the time being in your hunt for a new set tongue.gif What will you be aiming if you were to change?

Not too bad la, i pumped 270-280kpa before and that one feels really damn harsh. For me, below 270kpa still ok, below 240kpa steering response feels a little mushy. Slightly harder also have some favourable impact on my fuel consumption. Not so much on the Mazda, but the previous car can see about 3% improvement.

Hopefully, the CPC6 can improve the NVH a further notch. My mum complained that can't hear me talking when driving the Mazda on a faster pace.
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post Jun 8 2017, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 7 2017, 05:38 PM)
I still have my std 16' rims with expired tires!  laugh.gif  As replacement I will either go with wider 17' or even go 18' provided can get good lightweight ones at affordable prices and original made in Japan as well.

Like I said, I'm getting old already so my tolerance to hard ride might be much less than younger people!  biggrin.gif

I think the CPC6 might not be that quiet too, the EU noise rating is still 72db so still typical like other similar high performance tires. CSC5, PS3 & 4 rating are around 71-73db. In contrast, the F1A3 is rated at only 68db, which is over twice more quiet than those others.
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Found some good replacements that could suit you :
http://konigwheels.com/wheels/main-line-wheels/z-in/
http://konigwheels.com/wheels/flow-formed-wheels/ultraform/
http://konigwheels.com/wheels/flow-formed-wheels/rennform/

They licensed Enkei's MAT process and has a plant in Taiwan, so manufacturing cost and duties are lower. Got a quote before for a set of 18in for around RM2000 almost 1 years ago.

Ya, noted on the noise ratings for CPC6, just hope that they might release a more comprehensive list of label ratings. Some sizes might have more favourable rating. But if that's the case, i might fall back to the V701 or FK510 as they are rated between 68-70db. Just don't know how hard it is to get a set of FK510...

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post Jun 8 2017, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(jimmyteng18 @ Jun 8 2017, 12:12 PM)
Bro,
My rim specs:

SIZE : 17X7.5JJ
PCD : 5X108
ET : +38

can fit 225/45/R17?
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post Jun 10 2017, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 6 2017, 10:36 AM)
The previous version FK453 was available here, so I'm hoping the FK510 should be too.

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Went hunting for Fk510 today, shop called distributor, no stock. And tried some hunting in singapore, also can't find any traces of it. Either it will be damn late, or maybe rebranded. Judging from the speed of Michelin and Continental launching their latest products, i believe will start seeing the CPC6 on our shores around Q3 this year.

Had so much hope for the FK510...but reality is that it is not arriving anytime soon. I'm starting to consider the Nitto Invo, found 1 place distributing, will go ask another day when free. The water evacuation groves looked damn insane, just wonder the price....or maybe i should fall back to the V701 for latest tyres at a pinch. F1A3 very promising, but priced on average higher than the PS4 mega_shok.gif

You got any idea about Nitto tyres?

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post Jun 12 2017, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 11 2017, 02:28 PM)
Yes F1A3 seems more expensive now since still made in Germany as opposed to PS4 made in Thailand.

Not sure, never tired Nitto before and never read any reviews on them yet.
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Met another tyre shop manager, FK510 not brought into Malaysia. But that fellor crazy enough to quote me 700+ for V701 225/45/R18 ranting.gif

Really head chopping nowadays....

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post Jun 12 2017, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(leehernandez @ Jun 12 2017, 01:17 PM)
better u can buy ps4 for less than rm 700.
luckily u know the price if not kena chop kao kao.
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Sometimes, i kind of envy those people who live in mid peninsular. Despite near the capital city, the prices are actually more reasonable than those found in the south. Sometimes, despite going through the hassle, singapore is actually cheaper dry.gif
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post Jul 4 2017, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(sg999 @ Jul 3 2017, 09:28 PM)
Cant even find CPC5 in malaysia
stupid continental malaysia ask u to use CC6.
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Can't say that continental malaysia stupid because from overall market perspective, malaysia market is more value orientated, unlike in more mature markets where people think more about safety and performance.
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post Nov 21 2017, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Nov 21 2017, 12:43 PM)
Of course la, it's just like any other tires. Not because the brand name Continental then it's only suitable for continental cars! Continental cars is also a wrong/misleading terminology anyway, only used by Malaysians, don't know how! Nobody else in the world use the term conti cars.  laugh.gif
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If i'm not mistaken, the term "continental cars" has the continental word it it due to the fact that it is from another continent, hence "continental". But in general, usually relates to western branded cars.
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post Nov 22 2017, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Nov 21 2017, 05:54 PM)
As if Asia is not a continent hence cars made in Asia are not called continental cars?  laugh.gif  That's why I never use that terminology even though afterwards I know what Malaysians mean by it. First time a Malaysian friend asked me about what I think about Continental cars I was just like, what???  laugh.gif
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Likewise, for the western countries, asian cars are considered "continental" cars if apply our way of thinking tongue.gif

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