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 EcoMajestic @ Semenyih (VERSION 17), Cradleton VP-ed... Tenderfields soon!

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post Aug 15 2017, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(Thomas6263 @ Aug 14 2017, 07:46 PM)
The mall start wif alphebet "A"
Previously "J"  .. 😁
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Lol.. Regardless whether it is "A" or "J" or whatever, without official announcement only can have fantacy imagination only... sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Aug 25 2017, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(Randy2552 @ Aug 25 2017, 10:04 AM)
Johor Eco World very good...

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Back lane oso nice...
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What is the width? 20 feet?
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post Sep 3 2017, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Sep 2 2017, 10:47 PM)
Ecoworld is not premium, far from it. They are like the Honda and Toyota's, mass market developer with very good marketing. Stop deluding yourself.
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If EM is the Honda/Toyota, who is the Ferrari/Lambo in Semenyih? shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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post Sep 3 2017, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(LuckyOne @ Sep 2 2017, 11:41 PM)
LOL. Maybe you are right that either owners tolerance level is super high or the owners are not looking at lowyat net.  confused.gif  confused.gif

Meanwhile, I'm thinking residents might have get frustrated with "premium" product delivered but they opt not to jump out and held protest in front of EM because they afraid their property price will be affected. Make sense right?

But I'm glad to see some are start sharing the "premium" product photos. Let public assess themselves if these are acceptable defect for premium price paid. Trust me, I believe more will be coming  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif

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600k DSL is considered very premium price? hmm.gif hmm.gif

What makes you think residents are frustrated? Based on the comment of less than 1% owner/resident in this public forum? hmm.gif hmm.gif


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post Sep 3 2017, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(LuckyOne @ Sep 3 2017, 01:19 PM)
LOL. 600k in Semenyih few years back could be a premium price ler (maybe not for all but some of the residents...) Meantime, I thought Semi D was sold at RM 1 mil or so?

By the way, I only have limited info from residents. So, it's certainly not representing majority view. Similarly, I also trying my best to get other residents who are actually satisfied with the "premium" product to confirm that monies paid are justifiable.
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Yeah, 600k for a DSL in Semenyih is among the highest 2-3 years.. That's why until today EM still considered the most premium project in whole Semenyih. Please correct me if you know other more premium project in Semenyih).. brows.gif

For sure, some owners will be happy and some will be frustrated because can't meet the expectation. Some might even don't care since they are just investors and only target for subsale later. brows.gif

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QUOTE(LuckyOne @ Sep 3 2017, 01:21 PM)
LOL. I like this  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
So, Ferrari/Lambo should give Ferrari/Lambo feel ma ...
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hahha.... If anyone can share which project in Semenyih can give much better Ferrari/Lambo feel than EM, will be very much appreciated... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Sep 3 2017, 02:02 PM

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Lol... I normally do not reply troll in property thread...

The only thing I can say the lake might not be super beautiful, but it is decent for the residents and not many projects in Semenyih you can find such recreational lake with garden light just outside your housing area... rclxs0.gif rclxs0.gif




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QUOTE(LuckyOne @ Sep 3 2017, 02:12 PM)
LOL. But Ferrari/Lambo feel should not have issues like Myvi ma....
Under delivery, leaking, damaged roof tiles, poor water pressure ... apa lagi ... cry.gif  cry.gif
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Huh, Ferrari / Lambo perfect car with no problem kah?

http://nypost.com/2017/02/16/lamborghini-r...reball-problem/

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-t...takata-airbags/


Every project sure got problem one ge lah, if got perfect project, please kindly let me know ya so that I fast fast line up to buy... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Sep 3 2017, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(LuckyOne @ Sep 3 2017, 02:17 PM)
Lol.. but it seems like the actual deliverable still far away from marketing materials o...

By the way, I believe there two main few issues here at EM, one is under delivery and the other part is poor quality / defects found.
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Haha... Lesson of the day.. Don't listen to SA and don't rely on advertisement... laugh.gif laugh.gif

Just same like I am using the same toothpaste as advertised in TV, how come my teeth not as white as the model ler.... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

blardy TV advertisement cheating my money... should sue the TV station... devil.gif devil.gif

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post Sep 3 2017, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(kamilnu @ Sep 3 2017, 02:41 PM)
Yeahh.....'decent' only. No where near the dreams sold by EW before.
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Wake up and stop day dreaming then... laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Sep 3 2017, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(LuckyOne @ Sep 3 2017, 03:08 PM)
LOL. The moment I replied you I've already expected your typical answer. But seriously I never see Ferrari/Lambo with power window problem like Myvi  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

I don't think it is fair for the "premium" price paid but yet come with the problem like leaking issue, damaged roof tiles, weak water pressure, bad condition roof top just like other chepalang contractors. Hah Hah. Let me get more residents to "inspire" you and public with more exciting defects photos.

I do recognize Ferrari/Lambo will have their own problem. In EM case, I can relate the security issue as unique problem compared to other projects because not every project provide such high end security technology and feature. So, I'm fine if the security system at EM has defect at the beginning stage, in which I believe some residents have already raised their concern. I never make noise on this because I think it is fair to give EM time to rectify it.

So, please don't be miss-leaded that I demand zero defect for EM o..  rclxs0.gif  rclxs0.gif
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How you know Ferrari / Lambo never have power window problem? You check every single car before? If out of thousands owners let say there are 10 owners of these vehicle said they have such power window problem, shall you claim Ferrari / Lambo are low quality car?

Similarly, you have already labelled EM is a low quality housing project by claiming there is leaking issue, damaged roof tiles, etc, but how many units are actually having the problem? 1 unit, 5 units, 10 units, 100 units or 500 units?

How do you know EM security has no problem? Do you know what kind of system they are using and how many CCTV they install around the housing area? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(LuckyOne @ Sep 3 2017, 04:40 PM)
Eerr... why only 612 units? I thought more than these number with P1 + P2? Isn't it?

However, as pointed out earlier, I have only limited info from limited residents. So it can't represent the majority view. Maybe EM or community can launch a survey to collect genuine feedback from ALL genuine residents?

EM staffs in reading, can please help to convey my suggestion to your management?
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Lol, actually most of the purchasers already received the survey invitation already.

Nonetheless, do you think EM shall reveal the result? Even they reveal the result, you will fully trust on the results revealed? laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Sep 3 2017, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(LuckyOne @ Sep 3 2017, 07:39 PM)
LOL. I really don't know how many units having the problem as I have limited info from limited residents. Satisfaction rate of the survey could be as high as 99.9%. And it may be more than 50% residents claim the investment made does not match with the value. Who knows it turns out to be more than 50% of the residents claim the delivery by EM is below their expectation?

Since we don't know either, so one can still be the EM supporter but other has the chance to make genuine complaint on the "premium" products delivered by EM. Sound fair, isn't it?
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Lol... So, are you a purchaser who wants to make genuine complaint in lyn forum? rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Sep 3 2017, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(spoiltbrat @ Sep 3 2017, 08:50 PM)
Hi folks
If there is a separate chat group that genuinely let current and prospective  owners to have a constructive discussion please do share with me(pm me if needs be). Would really appreciate a platform where we can share constructive views on the topics / issues concerning EM.
Really miss those days where most folks here positively and enthusiastically discuss about things here maturely.
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That's the normal trend of lyn forum after houses VP... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Sep 4 2017, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Sep 3 2017, 10:49 PM)
There are non in Semenyih. I say developer, not area. EW targets the higher end of mass market, not premium. Premium is niche, the market is small for this kind of customers. Perhaps BRDB comes to mind.

The pricing is not premium and the product reflects that. It is actually very very good for the price that you pay. Just that their marketing is overly ambitious.
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BRDB highrise thumbup.gif thumbup.gif but for their landed project such as Senja in Seri Kembangan, personally I have my reservation on their overall landscape design, wondering if the purchasers consider it is actually premium? Awaiting to see the end product of another project in Taman Sari Rawang though..

Just wondering if premium = niche, then township developer shall never ever able to deliver premium product? confused.gif confused.gif

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Sep 4 2017, 12:46 AM)
Certainly can but pricing will reflect that. Yat fan chin, yat fan foh. If BRDB were to launch in Semenyih, definitely the pricing will be higher than EM.

Niche in the sense, not many will pay for 2 mil link house like Senja. So your customer base is limited.

Bottom line is, EW is not cheating you. They just hyped it too much. Last I check, their price is only slightly higher than SEH next door. I've been to both and I can confidently say, you are getting your money's worth in EM.
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Yeap, BRDB from my perception is niche developer, but might not the most premium developer (at least from the landscape/streetscape of their landed project.
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QUOTE(RyanYan @ Sep 4 2017, 06:39 PM)
Thanks for the clarification, based on the sq ft EM is larger, and paying RM596k vs RM528k (the largest sq ft), not even RM100k extra, but u get red brick vs sand brick, alarm system, , 3 pahse wiring, timber strip floor on upper floor, larger sq ft, and grand entrance from guard house with the fountain roundabout, still not satisfied with the extra price paid? If anyone say first phase eco lorong or defects, is first phase SEH hv no defects? And nice landscape backlane?
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Aquatilis actually is a phase 2 unit, but due to overwhelming response during the launching day, Setia has put forward this phase 2 units to be sold in phase 1. Hence, the pricing for this aquatilis unit is a bit different compare to true phase 1 unit. Argentea unit for example, with buildup just slightly less 10 sqf, the starting price is RM 40k difference.

Although Cradleton units have larger buildup, but it contains a balcony and the yard area at the back is not fully covered with brick. So, I am not sure the if the usable buildup really significantly larger compare to SEH unit.

Don't forget SP Setia is very generous in the land pricing, as for the endlot unit, it cost additional RM 120k, but as return you can 15 feet extra land at the side for end lot unit if compare to the common 10 feet land. Therefore, from the point of investor, SEH unit seems like more valuable/worth in terms of capital cost.

Anyhow, from the point of own-stayer, Cradleton might be more worth value than SEH phase 1. As like you said, the materials specification for Cradleton is much better. Personally for me, Cradleton have two clear distinct advantages compare to DSL unit in SEH. First is like you said it is red clay brick vs sand brick, which is an absolute advantage. Second, Cradleton is a true GnG vs SEH FnG. This implies that the security features of Cradleton is way more advance than the SEH phase 1, although free alarm system is provided for SEH phase 1 unit, but not Cradleton unit (still need to install own alarm system).

Nonetheless, for own stay, personally still believe Precinct 3 Setia Ecohill still the most desirable/worth for value unit. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif The cluster semiD unit is starting from RM 728k (36 x 78) with Agil PIDS perimeter fencing (used in Changi Airport), full red clay brick and two magnificent and exclusive Oriental Garden and Grassland Park within the housing area. Not sure if Stoneridge can match it in future, but so far still can't find any better units in Semenyih area with such pricing.

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QUOTE(BRE @ Sep 4 2017, 05:00 PM)
1st phase 22x75 seh 600k+? When ppl bot em did they ask sa y tbey r paying more compared 2 buying similar sized dsl in seh?
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First phase of 22 x 75 DSL unit starting from RM 583k, but all being grabbed by associate and internal staffs, no chance for public.. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(RyanYan @ Sep 4 2017, 02:02 PM)
And in fact, EM has the club house in plan, it's just a matter of time. Mayb some may say only promise whether it will be built it is another story, this we cant comment now. Shop houses? Everyone know EM had launched whitten, and ivoris, Brighton VP soon. International school, what's the point to have 2 international schools in a very near distance. At least EM have the reserve land for school, whether the school will be built on it, that remain to be seen.
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I don't think EM shall build a club house, but they will build a sports center. The sport center illustrative picture has been shown to the Cradleton purchaser during SPA signing, but now Cradleton already VP, sports complex still in planning stage... doh.gif doh.gif

Relocation of a SRJK from Beranang to EM also already being long "informed", too bad until today still no sign of construction... cry.gif cry.gif

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post Sep 4 2017, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(LuckyOne @ Sep 4 2017, 11:50 AM)
I prefer not to speculate what will happen if BRDB were to launch in Semenyih as I believe this will not realise in near future. I would rather look at EM performance.

As mentioned by others earlier, EM seems to be the premium (in terms of pricing) products seller within Semenyih. But it is a bit disappointed when looking at the defects reported and shared.

I'm pretty sure you are right that some residents may think they are getting their money's worth in EM. But I'm thinking  there are residents believe the investment made does not match with value, and they might also comment the delivery by EM is below their expectation.
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I think next BRDB landed project shall be in Sungai Long, just not sure how soon.. brows.gif brows.gif

The fact is EM pricing is most premium in Semenyih area and currently still the most premium project in Semenyih area. I presume there will be definitely group of purchaser happy with the product, but some are not satisfied as below expectation, and of course some not really bother even.

The problem is how we can know the actual condition? Rely on the comments in lyn forum? Waiting developer to share the survey result? or....?

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