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coldfusionpower
post Jul 18 2007, 04:39 PM

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where u buy the soil ?

so if my 2ft tank ? what light to use ?
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post Jul 18 2007, 06:23 PM

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soil? hmm buy 4kg at one bag 2kg rm29.90 got 3 varietes..u can chosse wit suits you...well i see the bag cover lah which one looks more nicer..see the color of the bag nice and eye catching i buy lo..

cuz evrytin written on it is japanases.. all i can understand is "2kg"

wakakakak!
lights?

well u can buy lah..2ft light set rm100 plus minus..nice nice one..

u wana diy?
go buy ballast rm15 X 2
go buy bulbs rm20 X 2
and the plastic holder reflector rm10-rm15 X 1


Added on July 18, 2007, 6:24 pmoh and i bought the soil at Natural Aquatics SS19 subang! unoe where is it ah>?

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post Jul 18 2007, 06:27 PM

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the GEX soil or even ADA Aquasoil is available in Irene in Seapark and 88 in Sunwaymas.

You can get the basic 2ft aluminium casing for about rm90. But the stock flourescent casing that comes with most casings aren't suitable for planted tanks. So, you'll have to spend a little extra on getting the proper lights.

You might wanna consider getting a fan to keep your temperature down and timer for your lights.

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post Jul 18 2007, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(SweetPuff @ Jul 18 2007, 06:27 PM)
the GEX soil or even ADA Aquasoil is available in Irene in Seapark  and 88 in Sunwaymas.

You can get the basic 2ft aluminium casing for about rm90. But the stock flourescent casing that comes with most casings aren't suitable for planted tanks. So, you'll have to spend a little extra on getting the proper lights.

You might wanna consider getting a fan to keep your temperature down and timer for your lights.
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and yeah what he said



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sweetpuf planted and corydoras Sifu!

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post Jul 18 2007, 06:33 PM

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no lah. Just learn as I go along. And I still have a lot more to learn smile.gif

I think that's part of the fun.


Oh ya, one more thing. If you're considering adding fish, don't buy them till after your tank have cycled, or if you have a matured filter.

Having a filter to circulate water helps plant growth, IMHO.

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post Jul 18 2007, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jul 18 2007, 02:09 PM)
2 bulbs work? How much roughly? Mine is single bulb.... last time use the 1 came with set.... but the plants don't grow well... so I bought another lamp, which so far is ok but wanna know what others are good.
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i check my note tomorrow for u..smile.gif not expensive though..

QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Jul 18 2007, 04:39 PM)
where u buy the soil ?

so if my 2ft tank ? what light to use ?
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count how many liter of water u hv 1st, then u will able to know how may Watt u need.
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post Jul 18 2007, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(SweetPuff @ Jul 18 2007, 06:33 PM)
no lah. Just learn as I go along. And I still have a lot more to learn smile.gif

I think that's part of the fun.
Oh ya, one more thing. If you're considering adding fish, don't buy them till after your tank have cycled, or if you have a matured filter.

Having a filter to circulate water helps plant growth, IMHO.
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and also sumhow with good airation..my java moss will grow faster..i tried putting one side of my java moss over my bubbly place at the filter there..
it grows faster..and where the java moss tak kena the bubbles..it grows at a slower rate..so i put my java moss right in the middle of the filter outflow..loads of bubbles..the whole java moss now growing real fast..can see its ends turning light green faster
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post Jul 18 2007, 06:45 PM

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Standard two feet tank is about 11 gallon. Having a dual flourescent 15 watt will give you about 2.7 watts per gallon, which is almost medium lighting already.

Good enough to handle most of the common plants.

Do remember, bulbs that comes with the set most of the time gives out either yellowish or pinkish light, which is not suitable for plants.

Having good water circulation helps to combat algae growth.

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post Jul 18 2007, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(michanz @ Jul 18 2007, 07:23 PM)
well u can buy lah..2ft light set rm100 plus minus..nice nice one..

u wana diy?
go buy ballast rm15 X 2
go buy bulbs rm20 X 2
and the plastic holder reflector rm10-rm15 X 1


Added on July 18, 2007, 6:24 pmoh and i bought the soil at Natural Aquatics SS19 subang! unoe where is it ah>?
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balast, edi hv . bulb ? hmm . does the bulb same like the house use one ?

SS19 .. er dont know ..


QUOTE(SweetPuff @ Jul 18 2007, 07:27 PM)
the GEX soil or even ADA Aquasoil is available in Irene in Seapark  and 88 in Sunwaymas.
You might wanna consider getting a fan to keep your temperature down and timer for your lights.
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owh .. since i'm going to Sunwaymas, just buy there lor .. tongue.gif fan .. already put two but will add summore tomoro or tonight.

p/s: my room got aircon . usually put it 25c .. ok or not ? this temp is the only one i can put. lower, my ferret will love it. too cold, my sugar glider will hate it . to hot , all three sugar glider and ferret hate and me hate lor . tongue.gif hahaha

QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Jul 18 2007, 07:38 PM)
count how many liter of water u hv 1st, then u will able to know how may Watt u need.
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how to count also i dont know .. hahaha .. let me get the calculator ..

QUOTE(SweetPuff @ Jul 18 2007, 07:45 PM)
Standard two feet tank is about 11 gallon. Having a dual flourescent 15 watt will give you about 2.7 watts per gallon, which is almost medium lighting already.

Good enough to handle most of the common plants.

Do remember, bulbs that comes with the set most of the time gives out either yellowish or pinkish light, which is not suitable for plants.
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ahaa. answer is answered .. hihihi .. so i need two 15watts tube . hmm . not suitable ? so what colour should i look for ?


excuse me ... newbie passing truuu sweat.gif rolleyes.gif

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post Jul 18 2007, 07:34 PM

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go for white color..

dont buy nrmal bulb...buy for the fish ones..

u can buy normal from hardware if unoe what ur looking for..like how many K does it have..10000K? 20000K? haha
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post Jul 18 2007, 09:17 PM

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88marine close at 9pm right ? sigh . was at sunway meeting sumone and it took longer than i think . soo .. edi 8.30 . sigh . sure by the time i reach there, closed edi .

tomoro je lah .. anyway ,, here what i hv to get right ?

CO2 difuser
CO2 Regulator
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HOB filter
air pump ?
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2 x 15watts bulb and reflector casing
the soil

anything else ?

anyone else know where can i get extruded styrofoam here ? 1lb density or sumthing
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post Jul 18 2007, 11:41 PM

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are u using gravel? or soil? u may need to get some base fert which put under the gravel or soil.

if u go for ADA, get powder sand special for base, soil for top smile.gif

not sure plastic tank. if glass tank 2X 1X 1 = 60 liter of water. at least u need more than 40watt of light...

what is extruded styrofoam??

get the Solenoid Regulator is better, 2 1 way check valve, air tube, bubble counter.2 X timer....

some wood if u want to tied moss. tweezer, thermometer, ph tester,


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don't get this plant. it will died. not suitable for planted tank.

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post Jul 19 2007, 10:08 AM

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cold fusion:

co2 needs to be turned on when there is light. plants needs both light and co2 for photosynthesis. if u turn on co2 at night with your lights off you're wasting money.
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post Jul 19 2007, 11:23 AM

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err... the grey colour container? Is it Nutrafin Natural CO2? If so, it should not cost rm89. Price is about rm65 or so only.

With a hang on back filter, you won't need an air pump. For planted tank, I suggest you get a filter meant for a bigger tank. But with HOB, you'll have some trouble with plants near the outflow due to the 'waterfall' effect.

I guess for DIY yeast co2, you can't really turn it off. smile.gif Unless you take the diffusor out.

Make sure your tank can support the lights and HOB. And your tank is plastic? Do note that plastic is easily scratched. Especially if you're doing planted tank with rocks.

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post Jul 19 2007, 11:41 AM

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about 65 ? really ? i hv to check the price again .

thanks for the info !
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post Jul 19 2007, 11:53 AM

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Go shop for the container in other LFS. You can try Irene or Yee Fatt.

No need to buy the pre-packaged refills, IMHO. Just buy yeast, baking soda and lots of sugar. Costs only a small fraction of the refill price. Just keep the container.

Alternatively, you can always DIY the container easily, though it won't look pretty.
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post Jul 19 2007, 12:20 PM

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if u not going to use their refil stuff, i recoment u not to buy the container too.. wasting money, just use a Coke bottle n air tube will do all..

Hun,
the like is $75.00, 2X 9watt.
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post Jul 19 2007, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Jul 19 2007, 11:41 AM)
about 65 ? really ? i hv to check the price again .

thanks for the info !
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eh i think DIY is better leh..another forumer and me tried..he bought that rm69 and i did DIY at the same time..

DIY lasted longer and like 10times more cheaper
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post Jul 19 2007, 05:04 PM

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this weekend, going to buy a 2ft glass tank and stand . YAY

michanz: u mean the DIY yeast CO2 ? if DIY, do u still need a buble counter or co2 difuser ?

use co2 reactor ?

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post Jul 19 2007, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Jul 19 2007, 05:04 PM)
this weekend, going to buy a 2ft glass tank and stand . YAY

michanz: u mean the DIY yeast CO2 ? if DIY, do u still need a buble counter or co2 difuser ?

use co2 reactor ?
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well u can add all dat.. mine is just a good bottle..a good connection between bottlecap and tube.. and a those cup diffusor..

dats all i need..since my diy co2 so cheap i can just leave on the co2 24/7 cuz if habis also DIY sommore just rm3++

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