Make and model of the car? So we can avoid buying it. Ever.

i think practically all cars 20 years ago are alike.


This post has been edited by fireballs: Jun 1 2017, 04:26 PM

True that. Judging from the A/C vent and seats, I think the car is Saga LMST. Definitely a tin milo.

I suggest you study more about the car's structure before making such conclusion.


1) https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=84855849

2) https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=84855851

3) https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=84855853

This post has been edited by syafiqsm: Jun 1 2017, 08:08 PM

This post has been edited by syafiqsm: Jun 3 2017, 07:50 AM

Most carmakers make cars to comply with the crash test. That includes Honda and Proton. They have so many brains and talents to design their cars to pass the test with flying colours.

But in the real world accidents, these cars won't necessarily perform that well.

This is the main reason why this thread was created.

To see REAL-WORLD results. Not just results provided by some organizations for accidents happened in a controlled environment.

This post has been edited by syafiqsm: Jun 1 2017, 08:34 PM

ever lie down on the hot tar road under the sun? cement road? brick road?

walk barefooted?

even if it's just a dead body, I think it is only respectful to shade to body from being cooked on the ground.

It's PROTON ISWARA by the way.

The "love of the nation" cars actually fall in this group too. So as all its siblings. Even the one with ESC.

I have plenty of Berbezza accidents collection. I was thinking of creating a thread to promote this "ASEAN NCAP 5-STAR" car. But seeing those photos make me think that it's not worth it. Its side impact protection is horrendous. The occupants inside will be lucky to walk out with no injury.

This was also the reason why I don't "praise" Proton Iriz all that much.

Don't get me wrong. Iriz/Persona still among the safest B-segment compact cars Malaysians can buy. But there's risk to it.

Compact cars generally don't do well in SIDE-IMPACT COLLISION. Even with HPF parts all over it, Iriz is not that impressive. A closer inspection of Iriz's body structure reveals its weaknesses. It's a budget car. Proton can't use as many HPF parts as the Preve/Suprima.

The HPF-less, A-segment cars like Berbezza will be even hopeless.

This post has been edited by syafiqsm: Jun 2 2017, 01:13 PM

TS COMMENTARY

Out of all Preve accidents here. This remains my number one pick. A side impact collision with a very heavy truck.

When I first found this, my jaw dropped. I couldn't believe it. This is madness.

This accident doesn't make it to the primetime. There was no "hu-ha-hu-ha" on social media.

It just went under the radar.

If this happened to a tin milo car. The occupants inside would be "flying out". I'm convinced that somebody would be seriously injured or even died.

There were so many PREVE accidents that as jaw-dropping as this one. A life-threatening accident. But many don't know that. Because nobody dies in it. So nobody cares.

Unless you are willing to dig deep inside. You'll be amazed.

This post has been edited by syafiqsm: Jun 6 2017, 08:17 PM

This post has been edited by syafiqsm: Jun 6 2017, 08:19 PM

Yes, these so called test also has their weaknesses which manufacturer tends to exploit. When actual crash do happen, only chassis can save you from kissing your own engine, the other feature which they exploited to get more stars only help lessen the impact/avoid it.

This post has been edited by archonixm: Jun 2 2017, 09:28 PM

TS COMMENTARY

Proton Preve AND Toyota Prado

A criminal suspect rammed into the Police's PREVE, but ended up his car plunged into a ditch. No other photos available.





TEMBAKAN DI KENINGAU - CUBAAN BUNUH ANGGOTA POLIS

Maklum satu kes cuba bunuh yang disiasat di bawah Seksyen 307 Kanun Keseksaan. (Cubaab Bunuh terhadap anggota Polis)

A). NO. Repot: KENINGAU/RPT/ 0243/2017 - JSJ/KS/014/2017
B). Tarikh: 10.01.2017 @ 2236 hrs
C). Kesalahan: Seksyen 307 (Kanun Keseksaan)
D). IO Kes: Insp/P Izwan Bin Abdul Rani
E).Tempat kejadian: Kawasan Jalan Ansip, Keningau, Sabah
F). Tarikh Kejadian: Pada 10.01.2017 @ 1730 hrs
G). Pengadu:D/Sjn Hasnal Bin *****, L/ 44 Tahun, No IC : 72**** - ** - **** @
RF/12***3 B/Bisaya, K/Polis, A/ Jabatan Siasatan Jenayah, IPD Keningau
H). Mangsa: Kpl Ryan P**** ******* ****, L/34 Tahun, No IC : 82**** - ** - ****
@ RF/15***5 B/Dusun, K/ Polis, A/Jabatan Siasatan Jenayah, IPD Keningau
I). Rampasan: Sebuah kenderaan Toyota Prado dan 3 bilah parang
J). Keterangan kes:

Pada 10.01.2017 jam 2236hrs satu laporan polis telah dibuat oleh pengadu menyatakan pada 10.01.2017 jam lebih kurang 1730hrs semasa pengadu bersama D/Sjn Saftu, D/Sjn Francis, D/Sjn Steven, D/Kpl Nazri, Kpl Ryan, Kpl Marcellus, Kpl Martin, Kpl Johari, Kpl Shairuddin dan Konst Anwar membuat tugas Ops Lejang di kawasan Jalan Ansip menaiki keenderaan pasukan van W** **** dan Proton Preve W **** untuk mengesan kenderaan curi di Daerah Keningau. Semasa tugasan dibuat, pasukan polis telah melihat sebuah kenderaan jenis Prado warna putih yang mencurigakan. Kenderaan pasukan van W** **** telah masuk ke jalan kebun kelapa sawit manakala kereta pasukan proton Preve W **** menunggu di simpang jalan kerana tidak dapat memasuki jalan tersebut. Selang beberapa minit, secara tiba - tiba telah datang sebuah kenderaan jenis Toyota Prado warna putih dengan dipandu secara melulu ke arah kenderaan Preve yang berada di tepi jalan. Kenderaan Prado tersebut telah melanggar kereta pasukan Preve dan terbabas ke dalam longkang manakala kereta Preve mengalami kerosakan di hadapan sebelah kanan dan tidak boleh bergerak. Semasa anggota polis hendak menangkap saspek, saspek telah menyerang anggota polis dengan parang dan tembakan telah dilepaskan bagi menyelematkan anggota polis menyebabkan saspek mengalami kecederaan.

Siasatan awal mendapati pengadu bersama Kpl Ryan, Kpl Shairudin dan Konst Anwar menaiki kereta pasukan Proton Preve W **** berada di bawah simpang Jalan Kg Ansip manakala anggota lain menaiki van menuju ke arah saspek yang pada masa tersebut menaiki kereta Prado putih bernombor pendaftaran SAB 1987 W (disyaki palsu). Lebih kurang 5 minit, setelah menyedari kehadiran pihak polis, saspek yang menaiki Prado putih telah melulu untuk keluar dan telah melanggar kenderaan pasukan Proton Preve W ****. Akibat pelanggaran tersebut, kenderaan dinaiki saspek telah terbabas masuk ke dalam longkang dan saspek telah keluar memegang parang dan cuba menyerang Kpl Ryan untuk melarikan diri. Saspek telah melibas parang ke arah Kpl Ryan dengan jarak lebih kurang 2 kaki menyebabkan Kpl Ryan jatuh kerana mengelak. Saspek sekali lagi melibas parang ke arah Kpl Ryan dan kena di betis kaki kiri Kpl Ryan. Pada masa yang sama Konst Anwar yang melihat kejadian telah melepaskan 3 das tembakan dari jarak lebih kurang 16 kaki bertujuan untuk menyelamatkan Kpl Ryan.

Siasatan lanjut mendapati, saspek dan Kpl Ryan telah cedera dan telah dibawa ke Hospital Keningau untuk rawatan lanjut. Hasil rawatan terhadap saspek mendapati saspek telah terkena tembakan di bahu kanan, luka di lengan kiri dan punggung sebelah kiri. Walau bagaimanapun, saspek dalam keadaan stabil dan akan menjalani pembedahan untuk mengeluarkan peluru dari punggungnya. Hasil rawatan terhadap Kpl Ryan mendapati Kpl Ryan mengalami kesan tetakan panjang lebih kurang 8 cm. Siasatan terhadap kenderaan yang dinaiki saspek mendapati kenderaan tersebut dilaporkan hilang bersabit MENGGATAL/RPT/216/17- KK/JSJ/KS/41/17 IO kes Insp Idrus *** *****.

K). Tangkapan: Rendeh Bin Kapitoh, L/ 32 Tahun, No IC : 840705-12-6671,
B/ Murut, K/ penoreh getah, A/ Kg Mempulut, Keningau, Sabah
L). Tindakan yang telah diambil:
1. Merakam percakapan pengadu
2. Menjalankan siasatan tempat kejadian
3. Mengambil gambar tempat kejadian.
4. Merakam percakapan pengadu
5. Memohon bantuan Forensik IPK
M). Tindakan yang akan diambil:
1. Memaklumkan
IO kes bersabit
MANGGATAL/
RPT/216/17.
2. Mengambil rakaman percakapan saksi bebas.
3. Mengambil percakapan saspek.
4. Memohon reman ke atas saspek
N). Lain-lain: Siasatan masih diteruskan.


http://www.bharian.com.my/node/233111




This post has been edited by syafiqsm: Jun 6 2017, 08:18 PM

I agree. The crash test doesn't tell the whole story. The public should always use real world crash to decide for themselves whether the car has acceptable crashworthiness.

does the new geely boyue aka bayu got hpf?
the china-ncap rate it 5 star
http://www.autohome.com.cn/tech/201609/892750.html#p1

video
http://v.bitauto.com/vplay/433951.html

This post has been edited by fireballs: Jun 3 2017, 12:22 AM

Interesting question Fireballs!

I have been asking myself the same question. But I haven't started any research on that yet. That SUV was designed by Volvo team. Not sure about its safety level though.

if the bayu is under 100k... sure will kill a lot of competitors

in china its priced at rmb 110k-180k
means 70k-113k myr
add in 50% tax should get 105k-170k

judging from the videos, they included side impact and it looks quite decent.