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Chat PROTON CAR ACCIDENT - COMPILATION REAL WORLD CRASH, Preve, Suprima, Iriz, Persona (2nd Gen)

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post Jun 3 2017, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Jun 3 2017, 01:02 AM)
if the bayu is under 100k... sure will kill a lot of competitors

in china its priced at rmb 110k-180k
means 70k-113k myr
add in 50% tax should get 105k-170k

judging from the videos, they included side impact and it looks quite decent.
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But, bear in mind the stigma attached to CHINA MADE PRODUCTS. The competitors will go all out to highlight that. "Ewwwww itu barang cina mali punya, low kualiti"

I think Proton marketing team has to devise good sales strategy to face this stigma.

Volvo is a good association. They must highlight this.

Yes, I already watched the video. My eyes were fixated to the A-pillar all the time. It was very decent. The overall SUV reaction to the crash test has Volvo XC90's composure to it. I'm impressed.

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post Jun 3 2017, 01:18 AM

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Proton Preve AND Proton Saga


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post Jun 3 2017, 01:20 AM

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Proton Preve AND Honda Civic


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post Jun 3 2017, 02:06 AM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ May 13 2017, 10:51 PM)
lol, HPF is just the steel forming technology la
you measure steel by its tensile strength, not whether its HPF or not.
if dont use HPF then use other methods to make the steel parts become ultra high strength.
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post Jun 3 2017, 02:06 AM

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QUOTE(Perwaja @ May 14 2017, 12:30 AM)
nice thread
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post Jun 3 2017, 02:11 AM

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ May 30 2017, 07:55 AM)
I noticed after accident, i see the windsxreen on passenger side always got crack. I winder is the passenger airbags caused that?
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ May 30 2017, 07:57 AM)
What i mean is the front windscreen
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Yes. It was due to front passenger's airbag. I'm not sure whether this is a design fault, or it was intended to be like that.



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post Jun 3 2017, 02:11 AM

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QUOTE(waiora_protuner @ May 14 2017, 12:40 AM)
just join any road traffic/info info group in facebook or whatsapp

see if you still want to buy perodua...
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post Jun 3 2017, 02:15 AM

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QUOTE(small-jeff @ May 14 2017, 01:09 AM)
ekcelli, hot-press doesnt matter. what matters is how it's cooled down

the article said it's quenched to 4dC to for martensitic structure = fail (if full martensite)

martensitic = high hardness, no ductility, low impact strength = macam glass

then again, if it's use at the front of vehicle, still ok - it's meant to break and stop the transfer of energy to the passengers (like how F1 cars will shatter to billion pieces upon impact)

i think the standard material used today would at least be HSLA and forming a 2 phase (2 microstructure) steel through heat treatment (heat to ~800dC and controlled cooling)
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QUOTE(ben_panced @ May 14 2017, 09:58 PM)
preve cabin looks intact even during head on collisions
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post Jun 3 2017, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ May 14 2017, 11:11 PM)
usually, perodua marketing team would already be reading this, right?
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post Jun 3 2017, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(memekfalui @ May 15 2017, 07:37 AM)
Macai proton pun Kerja keras macam macai BN cybertrooper laugh.gif
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post Jun 3 2017, 05:36 AM

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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ May 15 2017, 09:48 AM)
Can someone start a similar Perodua thread?
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post Jun 3 2017, 05:38 AM

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QUOTE(allinuff @ May 16 2017, 01:31 AM)
Bukan pasal tech orang reject Proton, sebab buat bisnes dasar kroni orang tak yakin pada quality product. Ini belum cakap pasal QC lagi yang sejak zaman 80an dah cam sial.
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Semoga pengambilalihan oleh Geely membuka lembaran baru kepada perniagaan automotif Proton
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post Jun 3 2017, 05:49 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ May 16 2017, 02:14 AM)
On the flip side....

Victims who survive an accident in a safe Proton whereby the car is written off, suddenly found themselves in a financial quandary because the total loss payout is not enough to settle their 9 year loan due to poor market value (and hence insured value) of Proton cars

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This is a known "risk". I've been thinking about how Proton can improve its cars' market value. Perhaps by launching an aftermarket modification company that can provide a Proton-approved modification for second-hand cars. I don't know. Maybe they can provide options to change the Campro engines to Mitsubishi for a price. Or perhaps they can "refurbish" second-hand cars and give extended warranty for that, just change here and there, the way Apple does for its Macbooks.

I don't mind buying a refurbish Proton cars (HPF-only models).

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QUOTE(Imagination *-* @ May 17 2017, 09:40 PM)
Cheapest that I can get and it looks better. Through this answer I believe most /k will think I'm retarded but yes I go for looks. 

There are other factors that come into play but these 2 tops it off.

I could go second hand preve but prefer 1st hand.
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I always believe that the cost of Proton cars (with HPF) can be lowered further to give access to those who really in need.

Take Iriz for example. Perhaps, by reducing certain components, it can reach a wider audience. Just scrap power windows, radio, remote control locking, projector headlamps, alloy rims and a few other fancy stuffs. BUT! keep all the safety features in it including ESC and HPF steels. The same thing for Persona. Call it "Super Standard" version.

In Indonesia, there is a very cheap version of Toyota Vios where they removed so many things, and only leave the basics. The same thing for entry level Perodua Axia.

Sell Iriz around 30k for manual and 34k for CVT. Sell Persona around 40k for manual and 44k for CVT.

This is how Proton can do Rakyat a justice.

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post Jun 3 2017, 06:06 AM

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QUOTE(syafiqsm @ Jun 3 2017, 01:18 AM)
Proton Preve AND Proton Saga
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That not the preve that collide with saga right?
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post Jun 3 2017, 06:07 AM

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QUOTE(gogocan @ May 19 2017, 07:49 AM)
Old model vs new model. this head on collision proves that proton really improve its safety aspect by leap & bounds. Good job.

If i in the market for sub $75k car, preve will be on the top list.
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QUOTE(nefashu @ Jun 3 2017, 06:06 AM)
That not the preve that collide with saga right?
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Saga hit Preve's left side. Before it rammed into a trailer.

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QUOTE(tokdukun @ May 11 2017, 10:43 AM)
Rejecting Perodua's offer of Toyota Dual VVT-i + 4sp E-AT powertrain was their stupidest decision ever.

Had they accepted it, Proton would flourish now. Even proton also people will tak pening, tak fikir, beli je. Peace of mind, jimat fc, cheap service, safety like a Volvo.
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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ May 30 2017, 07:55 AM)
how come front collision the rear windscreen pop out ? another safety feature for passenger escape without rescue tools
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I believe it was due to energy absorption by the car's body. Same thing happened in Iriz below.

QUOTE(syafiqsm @ May 17 2017, 09:17 PM)
Proton Iriz AND a Lorry
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