Hi,

I am having backache and my spinal doctor recommended to this chiropractic place I find a bit fishy because:

Each treatment cost RM 230++, with a minimum of 12 treatments contract - otherwise it will be RM 270 per treatment. This seems to be much higher than the typical price range based on my brief online research. I am having problem with this because I feel like I am not patient but a customer getting pushed to buy amway/herbal life/facial package...

The receipt is unprofessional (basically the type of receipt anyone can issue, without header, address, etc.). I may have a hard time claiming this. Not sure if it is standard here in Malaysia.

The first treatment I had was actually okay (manual adjustment, opinions on my posture, infra-red treatment), but I had doubt on the quoted price (is my doctor getting 40% commission on this????).

I am actually heading to another clinic for a second opinion, but I thought some of you guys may have relevant experience in this to share. Thanks in advance!

a doctor never recommends chiro

It is super pricey just for one treatment. I think you should look elsewhere. I used to go chiro the pricing was around RM80 per session in Penang. But I stopped before my recommended session ended which was supposed to be 12 weeks(I didn't take up their package just paid per visit) because I just felt like it was getting repetitive and I didn't see much changes after some time. I think my first few sessions was helpful to correct some of my issues. I think you should listen to your body and get second opinions if you decide to go with chiro. Most of them will tell you, you need 12- 20 sessions or twice a week etc etc. But in my opinion I don't think it's necessary at all. Depends on how severe your condition is also, mine was considered minor because it wasn't caused by accident or anything like that just overtime misalignment.

In short, it does sound too fishy.

Rm230 per treatment is way overboard. But if you're talking about your first visit, then perhaps it's within "reasonable" range. Chiropractic treatment prices range from Rm100-Rm180 depending on where you go. Consultation fees (for the first visit) ranges anywhere from Rm60-80.

"Packages" are also very common, because business-wise, thats the only way to tie a customer down. It's just basic economics. The other reason is to encourage compliance from the patients to follow-through with their treatments till they recover. But do be aware that there are unscrupulous people out there who would convince you to keep renewing your packages just to keep themselves in business.

But fret not, you can still find places where they don't jack-up the prices of per-visit-sessions to make you feel "forced" to pay for their discounted packages.

Perhaps you should check-out this thread: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/904300/+300

I never believe in any health package. Wtf was tat supposed to mean? Unless u r going chemo, i cant think of any other health related consultation tat requires 'packages' to heal.

It depends on how you word it. The simplest idea is this: Your disease took awhile to develop, and hence it would also take awhile to recover. Chiropractic is the same, it's not a one-time off treatment. It's like a course of antibiotics, you take the full dose for a specified amount of days for full recovery.

Most ppl have the misconception on the chiropractor. It's not a one-time treatment problem solved. If you have a backpain, for example, it takes time to realign the spine. Hence the multiple sessions. Do get second (and/or third) opinion if you think nothing has changed after first few sessions.

Best response ever!!

Pls go see a spine specialist first. Not just an ortho specialist but those sub specialize in spine. Depending on yr symptom the spine specialist might recommend you to do imaging..

This is very important and true. There are very, like really very few if any, doctors that would recommend a chiropractor over a physiotherapist. That being said, I myself have had bad back issues that were able to be fixed using both chiro and remedial massage. I started with twice a week for a month and a half then gradually once a week to once every two weeks and then on maintenance, once every month. Since I started weightlifting and going back to dance my back tends to be out quicker than the month is over so I just go get it fixed when I can feel it's out. Chiropractors are a lifesaver but you do need to choose a good one. If you're in KL area I'd recommend Spineworks at Empire Soho Subang. Dr Barry is the owner and he is good but because he is busy he doesn't spend as much time on you. I always ask for Dr Jennyfer when I go there now, she's great and takes time to fix your problems. Not sure what kinds of packages they have but because I don't live in Malaysia now so i just go for single treatments, which cost around RM100, +- Rm5

Just sharing my personal experience. I used to believe that chiropractic doesn't help with my back pain, until I met my MD friend and he said go ahead and take the experience, nothing to risk as well.

So, I went.

Package or not it was fine with me. What was interesting was the during the first visit they took a picture of me standing, facing-front and sideway and stored it (I gave them permission of course); doctors then did a detailed examination and explained how my current lifestyle (long hours office worker) and poor posture could have led to current body condition.

It sounded reasonable so I went with the first treatment, it was super awkward haha, and I felt mildly constraints on my back for a couple of hours. I went back to the same clinic every alternate weeks for 3 months. At the end of three month, they did another check up and review session.

Honestly speaking, I did feel good with regular sessions of adjustments. What was really intriguing was the body posture I have compared to 3 months ago was VERY Different. No slouching, balanced shoulder and I asked myself honestly was it a placebo effect? I knew I was honest and not to kid myself, spending for placebo effect. It did help with my body aching conditions, sleep conditions, and sinus condition. (I guess all are inter-related anyway.)

I go for Mid-Valley one (KIRO Lounge) when I am in KL, and when I travel to Singapore, I go to Sinaran Drive ( http://chiropractic.sg) there.

Is it in Novena Specialist Center? I just did my second adjustment at there recently.

Went to a chiropractor in Bangsar that was similarly priced. Expensive. Didn't help.

I find Osteopathy way better but the last time I went to one was many years ago (less than RM100 a session). Unfortunately, the osteopath I went to has since retired She was excellent.

Have you tried Bowen therapy? The therapist I know (first in Malaysia) says that if the therapy doesn't work within 3 sessions then quit it. She's very confident about what she does and passionate about it too!

A friend just went to chiro for backache and he told me that the clinic tried to push a package on him for multiple treatments at a discount about 75 each session, so your 200+ quote sounds high.

Personally I don't think chiro treatments are helpful for correcting long term issues that arise from bad posture that typically also involves a lack of strength and you'll have to do some physio to build up muscle and relearn postural habits.

Where is this place?
It is super expensive, I thought mine was quite pricy.

I recently tried chiropractic at Precision chiropractic sri petaling, my doctor was Dr Deon it work wonders for me but you need to do your part. Its not like one time treatment where the pain all goes away.

What do you mean by doing your part? Do you mean to go back regularly for the treatment?

This post has been edited by malaysiaboleh2020: Nov 16 2017, 12:03 PM

Like regular exercises, the advices the doctor tells you. Taking care your spine is like taking care any other part of your body like "you are what you eat"

I'm thinking about see chiropractor soon due to my backpain from weight lifting. I went to see doctor already and confirmed it was Muscle Stress but im still having pain maybe bcs from posture on desk during working.

Usually whats the price range per session around KL? and does it work?

Hi,

Kindly recommend a good value for money DORN therapy / gonstead method around KL area

I check and mentioned therapy around RM4k and medicine around RM3k. Its just about correcting hip alingment.

Strange part the practioner told even after the treatment may not 100% guarantee.

In addition, any good shi shi master around KL area to tackle shoulder pain? Suspect maybe "urat lari" or "angin".

Kindly advise.

Hi, i would like to recommend Abby Chiropractic Care at Seri Kembangan. The fees here are around RM80-100 for the first treatment (Included consultation)
the subsequent treatment costs around RM70-90, it is very reasonable. I am not sure the chiropractor from Abby Chiropractic is Gonstead chiropractor, but the doctor told me that he knows some of the techniques, included Gonstead, and quite cheaper compare to other chiro in town.

Not bad to try it! Highly recommended!

For sinus, they do chiro adjustment around the nose area right?

There's one chiro I saw in fb. Quite famous from his videos. Chris Leong. Heard his shop at Mid Valley.

I’m having backache after I woke up in the morning. And I was recommended by my friend to see a chiropractor than tit da. It is getting better after each adjustment and now I really feel good. Highly recommend The ChiroWay in Midvalley. The doctor really explain well to me before the treatment. The price is really reasonable and it is less than rm100

Was he a real doctor, tho?

What the name and MMC number?

That's chiro's practice. I have the same experience. Even after the whole 10+ sessions my pain was still there. It was rip off, plus waste of lots of time. They promise 'cure' and take advantage of desperate people with physical pain. No chiropractor for life. No thanks.

it also depends on the chiro's skills. i have been to a chiro which charged very expensive with no effect at all. there was no sound when even doing adjustments. i know that there should be sound and me screaming from pain from the adjustment but this was super quiet as if nothing was done on me. i didn't give up on chiro but i would just go on to the next one.

what kind of physical pain r u having? for me a good chiro means after one adjustment, i would feel comfortable. to be frank, it's hard to find a good chiro now.

I had lower back injury (ligament) from heavy weight lifting doing CrossFit. I quit CF. Too strenuous. Also I used to have painful tension on trapezius due to long computer work for many years.

For me chiro is just waste of time and money. Better diet (balanced nutrition from animal products, esp. ruminants) and active lifestyle helped me a lot. I'm in my 40's.

This post has been edited by Just2centslah: May 4 2020, 08:11 PM

i see. each of us knows what's best for ourselves.

we are very careful about giving opinions on other professions or professionals, but we wouldnt be recommending a chiropractor very often at all, if ever at all. When a back is started to show problems, the first and probably the best thing for you to do as a patient is take up effective personal back-care to prevent further accelerated deterioration. Look up online, youtube is full of good practice for back-care

Try Discover Chiropractic SS2. Look for Dr Sean. He practise gonstead and the method seems accurate. My 3years lower back problem got him fixed after 3adjustments. Important thing is he is really honest and really know his thing. Need to call for appointment.

https://youtu.be/D16LyGY47ao

Thanks for the tip. I am sure there are good chiros, too. Just without knowing the right chiro, too many trials and errors wasting personal resources.

i used to have headache every morning i woke up. Suspected could be my spine or neck. Went to chiro for 1 month plus..2 times a week. One session Rm150 plus..i stopped cause cant tahan the bill..but i have no more headache after chiro session.