Not sifu, but I owned the Ninja 650. Main reason for choosing it over its peers was ABS, MT07 around the same age don't have ABS. I bought it used, bone stock bike. Absolutely nothing wrong with the bike at all, starts every single time. I let it go because I want something with more character and flair. Because it holds its value well, I think you should top up and get the Z650 over the ER6N. Another alternative around the same price point as the z650 is the SV650/Gladius, has ABS as well. The interwebs says SV650 is always the answer.

Since you are buying it more for a weekend ride... take your time to slowly find one. But what do you want to upgrade to in 2 years? May make more sense if you just bought the bike you want.

Shitty key barrel, haha occasionally I have issues sticking the key in the ignition. Really wtf.

wah spot on. It is on my shortlist. I am seriously looking at it. For my use case of only weekend and ride for fun and maybe night time when there's not many traffic, it fits the bill. The desmo service is $$$ but since I am not commuting, not going to be piling a lot of mileage on it. That being said the 2V ones would be preferred over the 4V.

I really really think 848 and 1098s look damn sexy, like super sexy But my back will break in half and I will be riding my Chiro's table after that. So I need a more comfortable ride, so it's the Monster or the SF.I really like the SF cause it looks like hot sex but I think with the amount of power on tap I might kill myself without realising it. Obviously if I get the SF, it's going to be the S model with all the bells and whistles, plus the desmo service $ is the same between 848 & S anyway. A more realistic option would be the 1100s or 1100evo. I prefer the 1100s w/ABS, but it seems these are very rare in Malaysia, not even sure if there were any S with ABS in MY.

So if I insist on ABS, the SFS is out of the picture which leaves the 1100evo or 1100s with ABS which is a unicorn. But if I am OK without ABS, then why bother with 1100s? Just go with SFS. But of course, SFS seems to be quite pricey.

Looks wise my preference is 1100s > SF > 1100evo.
Specificaltion wise 1100s w/ABS -> 1100evo -> SFS -> 1100s w/o ABS

Anyway, I am still shopping around, but that's my rationale. Many sellers are asking for stupid money at the moment so I'll just wait.

Oh I sat on a Triumph Trident, really like the form factor, and man even in stock form the triple and the exhaust sounds nice. Love it. But since it is a hobby for me and I am cheap, not going to buy new. But boy I can see why its selling like hot cakes.

Royal Enfield isn't worth the asking price. Sure from far it looks the part, but when you go nearer and look at the finish on the bike, it doesn't hold a candle to the Triumphs. We all know its +tax and +profit by the local distributor. But if they CKD and sell it closer to their Indian prices its worth considering. Otherwise, just save up and buy a used Bonnie or Speed Twin. Ok hope I don't offend anyone, of course you buy a brand new RE you get warranty!

Got a place to recommend on doing the recoil? And I suppose doesn't matter what bike it is right.

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Nope. Too fat, seems to run contrary to everything Ducati stands for - sports bikes and winning races. Try and picture a skinny Italian with Mario’s mustache trying to dress up like a hells Angel member and rolling with a bunch of Harleys.

On the looks department the classic Streetfighter smacks it by a mile, IMO.

In India the RE 650 goes for about RM17k, the sticker price here is just fat with tax and premium. Which is why I say it’s not worth the RM34k price — where you top up you get a used Triumph and the fit and finish just trumps it by a mile. At least that is through my eyes, if you look at both side by side and you can’t see or tell the difference, then go ahead and get the RE. I went to the RE showroom first, then went to the Triumph one. Also Triumph sales guy is way friendlier. RE is also nice, but I think Triumph guy is just better at sales.

Edit: used Triumph Street Twin going ~RM40k. So that’s RM6k extra for a real British marque, not one with an Indian father. But of course, we are comparing brand new with warranty versus used. Just my personal opinion.

This post has been edited by Jason: Oct 15 2022, 10:30 PM

Yeah, I feel it’s a 25k bike not a 32k bike. Keep in mind if India is selling for 17k, how much it cost to make? Can’t give you Triumph quality for the price.

But for the guy who has expensive bikes and just want to go casual, round town. I can see the appeal. ABS, EFI, with the looks to go with it.

Or someone who only has 3xk budget, wants the style, wants the warranty of a new bike and use it for daily as the only means of transport. Beats a used bike with uncertainty of the condition.



Honda bikes are nice, but the price also premium. I don’t doubt it’s going to sound sex with that 4 cylinder engine. I made a point not to buy new bikes since it’s a hobby for me. But for Honda money you can buy a Triumph Trident and keep some change. Honda is up there with the continentals. So it is just a matter of personal preference. Again I feel Honda is priced premium, I’m not willing to pay that premium.

ABS is an insurance. During OH SH!T moments when it can save your skin you want it. But it’s no replacement for skill. You still need to practice and not hamfist the brake lever. Grabbing the lever with ABS kicking in is going to increase stopping distance. But with proper technique, under the bad situations, ABS works to improve your odds.

Race bikes and racers don’t need ABS because the track is clean. No debris. No leaves, no cars coming out of junction without stopping.

On the streets, everybody is out the get you.

Anyhow I just picked this up. I think it ranks #1 for character. Quiz, what is it? So distinct haha.

Keep it simple for you

Lowering seat will affect your reach to the handle bars and levers. E.g. your reach when you do full lock. If you are perfectly comfortable with the reach right now, then I will lower the bike.

Why? Lowering the bike probably change the handling and comfort of the bike — more bumpy or harsh. But rider ergonomics is the most important aspect.

You must be in 100% control of the bike.

Bike A versus bike B

A you have 100% confidence & control, but the bike less comfort less storage
B you have 80% confidence & control, bike got storage super comfort

I will choose A.

alexei don’t think there’s character with the bike if it’s just decoration.

This post has been edited by Jason: Oct 19 2022, 03:09 PM

Ding ding ding we have a winner! Haha, it was a trick question.

Well we both know the RE is price as such due to the tax and the profit margins. That being said if you have the time do check the RE out. The colors and that classic look is appealing, which is why I went check it out in the first place.

You’re right on the pricing. I was looking at the CBR650R pricing instead. I think one thing is pretty certain the Honda will hold its value better. And Japanese vs Conti on reliability, we know which one is the better choice.

Yeah thereabouts. It is way too loud, I will need to change the exhaust to something more bearable. At the moment even just idling it is going to wake the neighbors.

I think ergonomics is everything. doesn't matter how great the bike is if you can't get comfortable and be in full control.

The giant Triumph logo on the Trident is extra RM1000 paint job. The guys there are really friendly and you can pop over for a test ride. BUT if your mind is set on the Honda, I think it's a good choice Hope you get your bike soon!

Go UTC JPJ on weekday, 10 mins je. Not many ppl. RM3 only.

Plus point can buy insurance there, pay for road tax and kaodim everything.

Nightstalker1993

Nice test ride. Now you can be even more certain about your Honda.

Yeah the Street Triple is a love it or hate it thing. In photos I feel it’s quite unique, in person I can’t get over the bug eyes. I like the circular display on the Trident as well. Looks minimalist and sleek.

This post has been edited by Jason: Nov 2 2022, 11:55 PM

UTC open till 830pm. Check the one in your state. You work 8am till 830pm? 😂

Yes they are open on weekends too.

This post has been edited by Jason: Nov 3 2022, 09:15 PM

Seller must go first, then you go within 7 calendar days and pay RM3.

Or go together.

Borang is provided. Bring your own pen la.

Then buy me a cup of teh ice cause I help you save time and money.

Can. Works the same if he already setup his online account.

Teh ice RM2 only. You pay JPJ RM3. Total RM5

Cheaper than runner for sure. But runner got vip service lah they come to your house and do for you.

This post has been edited by Jason: Nov 4 2022, 07:30 PM

UGPM

Your information as the owner should be reflected immediately once JPJ prints and gives you the geran. My problem was that my bike model was not available for selection on the online portals of a few insurers, but the same insurer has my model listed in the insurance agent's system at the UTC. So I just renewed with them.

The order is
1. Must first buy insurance
2. After insurance is valid, can renew road tax -- this step is immediate. Once insurance is bought, next minute can buy road tax already.
3. Do wheelies and burn outs

Are you holding the grips tightly? Last pointer on the link explains it.
https://motorcycleridershub.co.uk/topic/7-h...-hold-the-bars/

Alternatively, is the bike setup for you? I suspect it might be this if you are not holding it too tight. The placement of your hand over the brake/clutch lever relative to the grips.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47YG4dAwOIM

I realize talking shit before the test and getting yourself relaxed and chilled works to calm my nerves. Then just do it like usual. Don’t be tense and grab the handles tightly that doesn’t help.

I’ve got a killer tip that helps for full B but doesn’t work for kapcai. Anyhow the z650 school uses also quite shit in terms of weight distribution.

After riding a bit, still super noob, my 270kg pile of crap is easier to control versus the ~200kg Ninja 650/z650 due to weight distribution

I didn’t force it in the hole so had to sit in between cars and bbq myself. While the kapcai just cilok around.

I think what I lack is just skill and experience. Like from driving an Axia suddenly drive S-Class, you don’t know if it’ll fit in that parking.

New bike launching. Aveta

Wtf. Walao school still put that bike in service, means want you all to fail and pay again.

That’s pretty, crap. Must be very thin wall on the tubes.

Exhaust shops can probably weld it back for you.