Rent way too cheap imo. Market I think minimum RM10 a day.

Kawasaki Eliminator 400
Pretty nice, and build in front and rear camera wow. We need that for our bikes. At least fatal accident can still haul the other vehicle’s driver to jail if it’s their negligence.

https://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle-news/...or-400-returns/

You probably want the 796 instead. But at RM20k would take longer to score one. It has the SSA, and more “full sized” as the 795 is like the Asia size version.

Challenge with Ducati is the desmo. For a weekend bike it’s fine. But for a commuter, running cost is gonna bite you.

I can’t ride for nuts but always dream of the 1098s or 1198s. Just super sexy. I think it’ll look good as an art piece in my living room. But can’t afford such art. And don’t think my back can take the riding position.

How was the Motul 7100 relative to others that you’ve tried?

Come test my bike. I think I have better luck finding g spot than finding neutral.

Before you buy, why you choose Ninja 650? I assume you rode the Z650 when taking license?

I owned it, also bought used as my first beginner bike. Got rid of it first chance I had. Hell didn’t even get on the highway with it.

Nothing wrong with it, but if I was asked to choose again now, I won’t consider it at all.

My personal opinion.

Your budget 20k +/-2k I guess.
I feel there are better used alternatives out there for the same price.

The Ninja 650 is a Jack of all trades. It doesn’t do anything bad, doesn’t do anything exceptional either.

I was attracted to it because it looks the part of a sports bike. Enough power and has ABS. Not too heavy. And that’s all to it. Mine had a stock exhaust. It sounds pedestrian and was not exciting.

On paper, my current bike is significantly heavier than the Ninja, but it is nicer to handle and maneuver even in slow speeds. The weight on the Ninja feels high up which doesn’t feel good in leaning and changing directions. Power wise no complaints, how fast you wanna go anyway.

I got rid of it because I knew I won’t be happy (or unhappy with it). Doesn’t make me feel excited to ride it. I don’t commute with bike so joy is my #1 criteria. Selling it allowed me to get what I want. Immediate joy when I test rode my current bike, how planted it felt, and how torquey it is.

My suggestion is, ride more bikes before you buy! When brands have open day for test ride go for it. When I went to Triumph PJ and have a look see and chat to ask questions they were happy to offer test rides even when I said I was just browsing and doing comparisons.

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True, but when you are walking towards your bike feel like

How many bikes you guys have? I've got 1. I want to add another 1 because #hoarder

What bikes you have, and why the Interceptor 650? The look is very appealing. ohmaigawd the mark 2 chrome finish is so sexy and so impractical at the same time. I think need to PPF it otherwise its gonna look like crap in no time.

Can I interest you in pushrods and belts? No chain lube needed and no valve clearance ever. Just some puddle of oil every few years. And power is calculated by units of freedom and torque.

How's the built quality of CFmoto versus Triumph? My time in the Triumph showroom really impressed me with the build quality... was checking out the Speed Twin and Trident. The RE 350 and 650 had a lot of rough edges when looking at it in detail, and its so apparent when you visit RE then Triumph back to back.

bro don't play me, my bike very cheap only. cheaper than Z900.

Apart from the electrical gremlins. How does the CFMoto feels like terms of touch points relative to the Triumph? Really curious how good (or bad) are China bikes.

The twin of the interceptor is a better choice imo versus a thumper. Is the hunter cheaper than int? Can’t even find a used triumph for the price of a new Int 650.

Oooh Triumph’s new Bajaj made 400s look quite nice. I wonder if it has the Triumph’s fit and finish, cause if it does, that will give RE serious competition.

Eh tmr holiday who wants to go ride in the morning. That Katana owner not free cause he got a brand new Ferrari (in costs). Congrats!

Yup... but everyone says at that price point apa lagi mau.

If this TriumphBaj is that good, and priced to fight RE.. we got a winner.

Then it is no brainer to take a Trident 660 at RM44k over the 400. Unless, you really want that look then ok lor. I am pretty sure they can price it at 3xk. If an India built G310R can come in at sub 30k.. no reason why TriumphBaj can't.

That BMW G310R is quite nice despite being made in India. Less rough edges versus RE.

They keep whacking the engine and lack of power. Which is probably true. The build, fit and finish not bad. And the design also looks quite good. My friend has it, she's short and petite so the bike is small enough. Plus she bangsawan so gotta ride a BMW la kan. Lights also look good at night.

How’s the 250NK? Any issues or problems? Esp build quality.

Not very popular in Malaysia, I guess due to dealer and service network not great. But the bike looks good — like KTM’s cousin.

Nothing nice to say about it? It’s in my shortlist of second hand bike to get

Previously was looking at D400 but the horror story put me off, and I don’t want another heavy bike. Didn’t want to spend more than 6k, so dropped the idea of a Z250.

Now it’s between the 250nk or the NS200. Research seems to indicate nothing to complain about the NS200, but looks wise the 250nk is another level altogether.

ZZR-Pilot shared in the other thread. No bike is perfect, but enough to make me shy away.

Plus the D400 is heavy so dropped it. Too heavy to pick it up again.

NS200 looks like a viable choice. No major complaints it seems.

For intended use and purpose, I much prefer the CFMOTO 250NK. Same weight as the NS200. 50cc more.

Want to keep it around the 150kg mark or less. And D400 price much higher.

Oh and I’ll be dropping the bike, so the weight matters. Got to pick it up.

What’s the benefit over getting a Z650?