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post Aug 1 2019, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(blackbox14 @ Aug 1 2019, 03:06 PM)
The videos on RTV silicon look promising. I assume I should probably do that from the inside since that means it will be less affected by the shit being flung up at it. Don't want it to drop on the rear tire after a while.
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cut a piece of cardboard or stuff some newspaper from the bottom while you pour silicone on the hole from inside.
leave it to dry
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post Aug 1 2019, 09:21 PM

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thanks for the great review on ninja 400. being eyeing for this bike before it even launch here.

now still saving up $ to get it smile.gif
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post Aug 1 2019, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ Aug 1 2019, 03:33 PM)
cut a piece of cardboard or stuff some newspaper from the bottom while you pour silicone on the hole from inside.
leave it to dry
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Yeah, gotcha. I'll see if I want to get an aftermarket tail tidy before I do that. But I'm otherwise satisfied with the standard tail...it's not too large for me and JPJ won't kacau.

QUOTE(skincladalien @ Aug 1 2019, 09:21 PM)
thanks for the great review on ninja 400. being eyeing for this bike before it even launch here.

now still saving up $ to get it smile.gif
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No problem. All interested parties deserve to know. Thanks for reading and I do hope you'll be able to get one too. smile.gif It's a great bike, and after riding it, I finally understand why it's considered one of the best mid-lower capacity bikes in NA.

There's a few more small things that I forgot to mention in that post. For example: the standard side mirrors which are too long and make lane-splitting kind of tough (I replaced them almost immediately), and that the bike has a 'Neutral finder assist' which prevents you from going up to 2nd gear at a standstill. But other than those, I think I've covered most of my experience so far. I'll try my best to get back to it and update with my ownership experience as I continue to put kms on the bike.

This post has been edited by blackbox14: Aug 1 2019, 11:00 PM
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post Aug 3 2019, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(blackbox14 @ Jul 31 2019, 07:52 PM)
Tires - .... because they still slip and wobble on white painted lines on the road.

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How bad is this? Thanks for the review! I am planning to get this next month hehe

Also, which aftermarket mirrors you are using now and where u got them from? And may I know where u get the bike from?



and I thought fender eliminators are illegal in Malaysia... LOL

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TSbasilisk
post Aug 3 2019, 07:09 AM

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the shorter the side mirrors, the less of rear you will see.

i even use mirror extenders,, cos i wana see all d stuff behind..
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post Aug 3 2019, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(kahtsin @ Aug 3 2019, 02:18 AM)
How bad is this? Thanks for the review! I am planning to get this next month hehe

Also, which aftermarket mirrors you are using now and where u got them from? And may I know where u get the bike from?
and I thought fender eliminators are illegal in Malaysia... LOL
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My bikes stock tyres.....few times when I was cruising up flyovers on a rainy day, no sudden acceleration or anything.. Just maintain throttle , the rear tyres spun and slipped when it goes over the white painted arrow on the road. Could be because of my bikes high torque.

Can be a bit scary.
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post Aug 3 2019, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(kahtsin @ Aug 3 2019, 02:18 AM)
How bad is this? Thanks for the review! I am planning to get this next month hehe

Also, which aftermarket mirrors you are using now and where u got them from? And may I know where u get the bike from?
and I thought fender eliminators are illegal in Malaysia... LOL
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If smaller and shorter mirrors doesn't serve the purpose....forget about it.

Safety first.
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post Aug 3 2019, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(blackbox14 @ Aug 1 2019, 10:43 PM)
Yeah, gotcha. I'll see if I want to get an aftermarket tail tidy before I do that. But I'm otherwise satisfied with the standard tail...it's not too large for me and JPJ won't kacau.
No problem. All interested parties deserve to know. Thanks for reading and I do hope you'll be able to get one too.  smile.gif  It's a great bike, and after riding it, I finally understand why it's considered one of the best mid-lower capacity bikes in NA.

There's a few more small things that I forgot to mention in that post. For example: the standard side mirrors which are too long and make lane-splitting kind of tough (I replaced them almost immediately), and that the bike has a 'Neutral finder assist' which prevents you from going up to 2nd gear at a standstill. But other than those, I think I've covered most of my experience so far. I'll try my best to get back to it and update with my ownership experience as I continue to put kms on the bike.
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actually the mirror is one of the reason i like kawa lol. And the neutral assist i think alot of kawa bikes have it?
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post Aug 3 2019, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(kahtsin @ Aug 3 2019, 02:18 AM)
How bad is this? Thanks for the review! I am planning to get this next month hehe
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It's not too bad but it still is noticeable in the situation I mentioned (those white lines). The bike can still maintain decent speed (90~100km/h) in wet conditions. Just don't expect it to ride twisty roads all too well.

QUOTE(kahtsin @ Aug 3 2019, 02:18 AM)
Also, which aftermarket mirrors you are using now and where u got them from? And may I know where u get the bike from?
and I thought fender eliminators are illegal in Malaysia... LOL
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My solution for aftermarket mirrors were a bit costly, but I went for the option that gave the best safety possible. I didn't want to get the widely available tiny copy Rizomas and such since they were too small, so I ended up getting a Bike Master Ninja 250/300 2013~2017 OEM set from EBay. The mirrors' base are the same as new Ninja 250 and 400, so they screw on with the same screws, but they are about 5~6cm shorter than the standard ones. With some minute adjustments I was able to get good view out of them. I don't recommend doing this if you have wide shoulders though.

Fender eliminator can pass JPJ roadblock - probably with some sweet-talking depending on how strict the officer is - as long as they are the type that reuse the license plate light and signal from the original tail section. License plate must be illuminated, the angle must not be too extreme to the point that cars behind you can't see it, and the number plate must be the standard size issued by JPJ.

I got my bike at XL Motor in Seremban.

QUOTE(basilisk @ Aug 3 2019, 07:09 AM)
the shorter the side mirrors, the less of rear you will see.

i even use mirror extenders,, cos i wana see all d stuff behind..
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Aug 3 2019, 08:54 AM)
If smaller and shorter mirrors doesn't serve the purpose....forget about it.

Safety first.
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Can see my solution for the mirrors above. You sacrifice a bit of rear view depending on your body width (10% or so in my case, not a big issue), but the mirrors are fully functional. Many people who own the bike in the USA have also done the same.

The problem with the Ninja 400's mirrors for me was their height being exactly at the height of most cars' side mirrors. It was very difficult to adjust during filtering to not hit those side mirrors, especially the family carrier cars like the Alza.

QUOTE(skincladalien @ Aug 3 2019, 11:29 AM)
actually the mirror is one of the reason i like kawa lol. And the neutral assist i think alot of kawa bikes have it?
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If you can live with the side-mirrors then great. I just couldn't, haha. tongue.gif

My previous Kawa bike was a Z250SL, which did not have the neutral finder. So it was a pleasant surprise when I found out how easy it was to shift into neutral on the 400.

EDIT: Added image for side mirror length comparison. Longer one is standard, shorter one on the bike is the replacement.

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Noted with thanks! Will be sure of lines. Actually when driving also can know those stupid lines are dangerous.


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I'm just considering my options, won't change the mirror unless I have to, don't worry. Thanks for the info!
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post Aug 4 2019, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Aug 3 2019, 08:52 AM)
My bikes stock tyres.....few times when I was cruising up flyovers on a rainy day,  no sudden acceleration or anything.. Just maintain throttle , the rear tyres spun and slipped when it goes over the white painted arrow on the road.  Could be because of my  bikes high torque.

Can be a bit scary.
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I took the risk and leaned on white line at kkic with rosso corsa 2., lucky me everything went well, due to lots of cyclist on the road, my line had to be adjusted multiple times
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post Aug 4 2019, 08:14 PM

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record breaking genblue 2019

for this ' duk-su '

and hly dare to advertise as ' pelancaran motosikal terbaru yamaha ' biggrin.gif

jz 2 bikes as cabutan bertuah for thousands of supporters...

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post Aug 4 2019, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Aug 4 2019, 08:14 PM)
record breaking genblue 2019

for this ' duk-su '

and hly dare to advertise as ' pelancaran motosikal terbaru yamaha ' biggrin.gif

jz 2 bikes as cabutan bertuah for thousands of supporters...
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Not surprising considering their business practices.

I was also expecting the MT-15, but oh well.
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post Aug 5 2019, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(blackbox14 @ Aug 4 2019, 09:53 PM)
Not surprising considering their business practices.

I was also expecting the MT-15, but oh well.
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Where you from blackbox. The nmax still up for sale?

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post Aug 5 2019, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(redjol @ Aug 5 2019, 12:20 AM)
Where you from blackbox. The nmax still up for sale?
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Already sold.
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post Aug 6 2019, 01:50 PM

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I love the videos so much, you share.
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post Aug 6 2019, 04:44 PM

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Hi guys..wanna ask..where to find shop sell biker gear original accessories cheap2 at Sel or KL area? at least can bargain & lower from retail price.
Ayam wanna find Komine/RS Taichi glove & jacket. Original not fake..Anyone know where lubuk to find those item? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Farlz_89 @ Aug 6 2019, 04:44 PM)
Hi guys..wanna ask..where to find shop sell biker gear original accessories cheap2 at Sel or KL area? at least can bargain & lower from retail price.
Ayam wanna find Komine/RS Taichi glove & jacket. Original not fake..Anyone know where lubuk to find those item?  hmm.gif
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Hi. You can try Hodaka Motoworld.

Probably won't be as cheap as you'd expect, but original stuff comes at a price. You'll still be looking at sub-RM200 for decent gloves and around RM500 for jacket. But since it's safety, better not take chances.

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post Aug 6 2019, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(blackbox14 @ Aug 6 2019, 04:59 PM)
Hi. You can try Hodaka Motoworld.

Probably won't be as cheap as you'd expect, but original stuff comes at a price. You'll still be looking at sub-RM200 for decent gloves and around RM500 for jacket. But since it's safety, better not take chances.
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Thanks alot for suggestion. I dont mind as long below retail price ok already laugh.gif ..The price can be bargain there? Got other shop you recommend?
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QUOTE(Farlz_89 @ Aug 6 2019, 05:11 PM)
Thanks alot for suggestion. I dont mind as long below retail price ok already  laugh.gif ..The price can be bargain there? Got other shop you recommend?
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those shops that sell ori stuff unlikely can bargain the price. hell even shops that sell fakies oso cannot bargain wan.

either u pay quoted price, or find another shop.

Hodaka is my recommendation for Komine and Taichi as well as motogear in KL (batu caves i think).

you could also look at LSH Racing World if you are open to other brands such as Nankai, Rev'It, Hevik etc.

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