Here are the pictures.. damn cool. Ati looks ugly to me.. hahaha...

8600gts


8600gt


8500 fanless


ati Rv630XT


ati Rv630


ati Rv610


HAVE FUN GUYS... CANT WAIT TO GET MY HANDS ON THEM!!! Wakakaka. but i still like 8800 more... LOL!!!

Well 8800GT's design are still pwnage xD

lol...couldn't wait your 8800GTS???


any idea how long the RV630Xt is??


Chow.

RV630XT rumors said june 2007, some say may 2007. Not quite sure.. amd-ati can always change their dates to release... so.. all we can do is just wait... We cant write a letter to amd-ati regarding of releasing their GCs faster right? haha... so have to be patient.. anyway.. since nvidia's DX10 is out first.. so i might get my hands on 8800. but currently waiting for pc fair first.. wanna see whether got price drop or not.. coz im not in a hurry to use it.. haha.. not playing any games which requires DX10 nowadays.. unless C&C3 is out!!! woo hoo.... p/s: sorry out of topic.

, 8800 series cooler more "cun" than this one ...

I like the 8600Gt coz 8800 series price still quite high.....

C&C3 is DX10 game???

Dont think so. A friend told he he can play the demo at 1280x1024 with most on high setting using just 7300gt 128mb

This post has been edited by sniperwolf: Mar 16 2007, 10:14 AM

I personnally will opt 4 d MSI 8600GTS wif heat pipe cooler

ati Rv630XT look like current x1950xtx, it fan looks same... romur sait it will pwn curreny x1900gt or maybe able to pwn x1950pro as well...

hv experianced sli before, now crossfire turn...

Pheeww...no need to upgrade yet.

Maybe i'm one of the few strange one, but i much prefer EA's C&C:Generals over the old WestWood C&C which i actually hate. Hopefully, with this, EA will be able to improve on the old and new.

btw, gamers.com.my is taking pre-order until 21st March only...a few days to go only. RM99...i think i'm gonna book mine already.

why both the 8600Gt and GTS have different colour PCB ???
significant difference in terms of the design and components ???

anyway judging from the fan size, is GTS a higher end version of 8600 series compare to GT ??

well i doubt the price would be cheap for 8600GTS and GT, i still remember 6600GT and 7600GT came time the price hitting 1k......

but 8800GTS price around RM1200 at launch may just force them to come out lower

High-end = Card name = *9**
and suffix = GTX,GTS,Ultra,GX2

Mid-end = Card name = *7** ,*6**
and suffix = Ultra, XT, GT

Entry-level = Card name = *5**,*4**,*3**,*2**,*1**
and suffix = MX, Ti, GS, Le

well..atleast this is what i think..

neways..no 8600Ultra???

This post has been edited by CKC_1: Mar 16 2007, 11:59 AM

It's interesting dat PC hardwares nowardays consume more power than earlier
Even mid-range card nowardays like 8600GTS also required external PCI-E power supply
New hardware not power efficient as their ancestors?

Performance/watt wise, newer hardware is a lot better. It's just that the performance has grown so much. The other problem with parallel processing is you can easily increase performance by increasing parallelism (more hardware) which leads to more power.

All I want to know is whether the rumours of the top flight RV630 outgrunts an X1950 in 3D Mark is really true or not. If yes, FTW

For situations where it is not bandwidth constrained, i would not be too surprised if it outperforms the x1950. This is assuming it is a half R600 part (evidence strongly suggests that this is true).

This post has been edited by ikanayam: Mar 16 2007, 02:49 PM

8600gt!!! the return of the black PCB!!!!! wonder wut would be the pricing like....

is halo2 for pc is a Direct x10 game? if yes then have to buy 8series gc to support dy.

so is it safe to assume that the prices for cards like 7300/7600/7900 will go down?

Don't think so unless DX10's game is getting ordinary...

sure price will go down...even now

Price will go down a bit but not long. After that it'll extinct and replaced by respective 8300/8600 which will have slightly higher price of their old replacement model.

juz like 7 series replacing 6 series card...

hhmm... IF the price of 8600 AGP series is cheaper then RM400-600 and performance is then...

This post has been edited by miloy2k: Mar 16 2007, 05:33 PM

Can't wait to upgrade my current gc...

8600 series AGP card???
I dun think there will be any 8series AGP out dis early stage. Also if got AGP version those cards also won't cum wif cheap price tag

If cheap (depend on budget) i will take it as temp solution b4 migrate to PCIE

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Added on March 16, 2007, 8:29 pmhttp://forum.lowyat.net/topic/416735

This post has been edited by miloy2k: Mar 16 2007, 08:29 PM

Thx 4 ur clarification here dude
But those juz planning onli, nVidia might pull off those plans if things not go according to their plans
Furthermore PCI-E platform oledi veli popular n affordable nowardays

Woot, ATI better buck up or it will be DX11 when they regain market share.

where is the 8300 o_O

And then a DX10 game comes along and brings the 8800 down to its knees with 20FPS performance... what a vicious cycle...

Waiting those mid-range Dx10 cards release, and will change a new spec of pc ^ ^

yes lah, sooner or later will have to migrate to pcie for u lot of gamers. wonder how long I can last--I'm not a gamer-only play for fun-- but 1 day will buy game that cannot run well on agp then !!@@!@#@!

The 8600 card design is abit weird...hope some brand like XfX will make their card more creative and nice like 8800..

the design is not that bad..but the size is sure big..

Looks good but the RV630 looks damn alike like X1950...

Lol... maybe it's exactly X1950, only chipset changed and support DX10 only.. lol... just for laughs.

My piece of advice for agp users.. wait what la... migrate to pci-e lo... agp cards' price is always Rm100~200 higher then pci-e... not worth it.. i just migrated..

8300 will not come out so fast until 8600 is out... just my guess..

Hope to see 8600 launched in the April's PC FAIR as opening ceremony product.! hahaha...

Wow. HDMI card for me please

Better wait for 8900GS.. hope its price is cheap and can easily pawn 8800GTS.

it don't think so, coz it was a different architecture, it should be hv it own pcb to make it work, if that simple, use old pcb desin put dx10 chipset amd should release the card long time ago...

You can have pin compatible chips with different architectures. They've done it before, and it's not exactly new to the industry. Just look at CPUs, especially intel's line up at the moment.

Using a pin compatible chip for a new architecture doesn't make it much easier for the chip manufacturer. The chip is hard to make, the PCB is relatively simple. So the second part of your assumption is not true.

DX11!?
It's still too too too early 2 talk bout DX11 rite now!
DX10 juz getting launch not long ago dude!
Anyway that's juz ur own assumption n no facts 2 back ur statement yet

As ikanayam has stated, it's not unprecedented. One need to just look at 8600. Essentially the PCB is the same as 7600 which in turn is the same that 6600 uses. NVIDIA did state their intention maintain prices of GC's for mid range by utilising same pin outs unless there was a major change in archetecture

This post has been edited by almostthere: Mar 19 2007, 12:03 AM

hrm...........if so then we would expect heavy power consumption from 8600 Series cards............
i tot they goin to use 65nm process on the new GPU chips already.............. to cut down on power consumption and heat ......... another dissapointment............

65nm process still not using in fabricating graphic chips yet. D latest process is 80nm for graphic chips fabrication if i not mistaken
Even AMD they also haven't start production on proc chips using 65nm process.

amd? 65nm? dats brisbane... its out ad

For now not yet dude

thanks coz make it clear bro

If I'm not mistaken, 8500=the new budget line(7300)

We'll be seeing a couple of 65nm GPUs quite soon from AMD. Nvidia's 65nm will be around september or later. G84 and G86 are 80nm.


Yes, they already have 65nm CPUs.

ati has been late for half a year
really hope the r600 can smoke the g80

so do i.... so long wait for new vga from amd radeon...

BFG Tech 8600GTS <-- not GT model I guess ocworkbench had a typo..

Source: news.mydrivers.com




"News sources says that there is a BIOS problem in the 8600GT but it will be resolved before it goes to retail.
A lot of partners have already got hold of the products. They will hold on to it and go on sale on the 17 April."
http://forums.ocworkbench.com/bbs/showthre...0threadid=60927

This post has been edited by ghost321: Mar 20 2007, 11:38 AM

This one should be 8600GTS dude! Take a closer look, there is an external PCI-E power connector and this feature only available on 8600GTS model
Furthermore the label on d fan sink also labeled 8600GTS

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Added on March 19, 2007, 11:39 pmSorry dude, forgot 2 mention that it's AMD 65nm chips. I do know there already plenty of 65nm chips available on market by Intel

This post has been edited by jcliew: Mar 19 2007, 11:39 PM

You are correct! I guess I just copy and paste bluntly

I was talking about AMD.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList....tk=&srchInDesc=

This post has been edited by ikanayam: Mar 20 2007, 11:45 AM

R600 video??? get it while its hot

any news on ati mid range and low end release gfx model?

This post has been edited by stevenlee: Mar 21 2007, 09:40 AM

I thought R600 has been delayed again with no-show at CEBIT? I think they can't beat Nvidia performance, thus, revamp it to make sure it can beat Nvidia before making announcement.

actually i'm thinking it too , therefore delay after delay and another delay ...i was hoping R600 around this March, but April (i hope)...

ATi keep on delay n this act might kill themselve coz nVidia 8-series oledi debut quite sum times. It will be quite hard 4 ATi snatch back customers coz nVidia oldei cum out wif budget version 8800GTS 320MB which more alternative 2 end users

I just hope price war will start soon after R600 is out, then I will grab 8800GTS 320MB.

When R600 out i'm sure nVidia will cum out wif more variant of 8-series cards such as 8800GS who knows??
It's good news 4 end users like us

Haha, that's true. Let both companies war, price drops, we happy. I will actually wait abit longer. Waiting nVIDIA to release new 8-series like 8900GT. See how new cards perform.

This post has been edited by Hyde`fK: Mar 21 2007, 02:21 PM

no 8600ultra?

Ultra = GTS

correct me if wrong

Yup
agreed wif taxidoor.
d "ultra" is used when d 8600GTS still not named officially thought. we used to heard different name in rumours aren't we?

wonder need to wait how long only can get those

sob sob!!

GTS is initially used by geforce2.. and GTS means Giga Texel Shading

This post has been edited by jinaun: Mar 26 2007, 03:00 PM

17th of April

22nf april, intel price slash + new model............... hehe........

btw if the 8600 series be made in 80 or 65nm GPU.........how much they can cut down on their power consumption............30% may be ??

This post has been edited by LExus65: Mar 26 2007, 04:14 PM

thx for the list.


good to noe tat, thx mate.

This post has been edited by yqric: Mar 26 2007, 06:54 PM

Great
I'll be saving $$$ 2 giv a major upgrade 2 my current setup
New intel pocs model plus d release of nVidia 8-series midrange cards

WTF!!!


http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=38500

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Added on March 27, 2007, 6:31 pmArrggghh! I'm going nuts!! Maybe I go buy 7900GS. All my parts are collecting dust with the seller...

This post has been edited by ghost321: Mar 27 2007, 06:31 PM

better u wit, 8800gts price maybe will brop coz radeon r600 will realase some where in april...

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=38442

Then again........



http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4864

8800GTS is about RM1100-RM1200. How much it can drop? RM800-900?
8600GTS is about RM700-800. Kinda impossible to think.

8600 GTS or ultra rumour to price around USD180 ~ RM 700 ++ kind of a good deal............. wander how this goes with 7900GS ??

anyway any ideas how the unified shader thing compare to older vertex and texture shader ??

check out the benchmark results!
- nVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX 768MB GDDR3 (standart hız) & sürücü: ForceWare 97.92
- nVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS 512MB GDDR3 (standart hız) & sürücü: ForceWare 97.92
- ATI Radeon X1950 XTX 512MB GDDR4 (standart hız) & sürücü: Catalyst 7.2

http://www.madshrimps.be/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=32351

8600GTS is better than 7900GS, both at default clock speed.

it even better then x1950xtx lio... huhu, this 8600gts will be mid range king

R600 launch date is confirmed at 14 May right..

AMD/ATi damn slow
still got a month more to wait

8600gts better than 1950xtx?! only 128bit ma, if u look at some links i posted even x1950 pro can beat in some benchmarks..i hate to say this many times but..beating a 1950xtx...try xt or even pro

it was due to d memory bandwidth limitations dude
128bit can't beat 256bit in sum cases

yeah 8800gts is 320bit while 86gts is 128bit. shouldnt a 256bit card with 256 or 320mb be in between them

just want ask if less bit, what that mean? can someone explain?

less bit rate, less preformance...

but don't compare 7 series with 8 series, even 7series hv 256bit it still can't beat 8600gt/s, new architecture, more powerful, more advance

u guy think how much will going to cost the 8600gts? if the price exceed 1K better grab the 8800gts 320MB.

someone is alreadt selling 8800gts in the bulk area la.......its RM880...

ohw dang it, i juz checked the mid-range ATI DX10 graphic cards (R630 if not wrong), its same with the 8600gts/gt, using 128-bit onli...man, now i dunno wan to wait the ATI cards o not...

After R600 is out, if the 8800gts 320mb is drop, sure grab it..coz 8600gts now is arround rm800.., then the new price of 8800gts 320mb would be arround rm900-1000..(max 1100)

so, adding rm200-300 can turn 8600gts to 8800gts
- 128bit to 320bit
- 256mb to 320mb

only those who have the $, i suggest take 8800gts 320mb and above..(a new dx10 world)

if not, just take 8600gt (bulk can get rm550)..then, when rich, sell of and go for 8800gts..yeah!!

agree agree!

i've see pc-zone price list they stste asus 8800gts 256mb priced at rm910 only... but still no body can varify that. it shown 8800gts price is going down...

since when theres a 8800gts 256mb version? i thought only 320 and 640?

im thinking of gettting the 8600gt and oc until it becomes like the gts.. lol..
save money lo..