I personnally will opt 4 d MSI 8600GTS wif heat pipe cooler

It's interesting dat PC hardwares nowardays consume more power than earlier
Even mid-range card nowardays like 8600GTS also required external PCI-E power supply
New hardware not power efficient as their ancestors?

8600 series AGP card???
I dun think there will be any 8series AGP out dis early stage. Also if got AGP version those cards also won't cum wif cheap price tag

Thx 4 ur clarification here dude
But those juz planning onli, nVidia might pull off those plans if things not go according to their plans
Furthermore PCI-E platform oledi veli popular n affordable nowardays

DX11!?
It's still too too too early 2 talk bout DX11 rite now!
DX10 juz getting launch not long ago dude!
Anyway that's juz ur own assumption n no facts 2 back ur statement yet

65nm process still not using in fabricating graphic chips yet. D latest process is 80nm for graphic chips fabrication if i not mistaken
Even AMD they also haven't start production on proc chips using 65nm process.

For now not yet dude

This one should be 8600GTS dude! Take a closer look, there is an external PCI-E power connector and this feature only available on 8600GTS model
Furthermore the label on d fan sink also labeled 8600GTS

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Added on March 19, 2007, 11:39 pmSorry dude, forgot 2 mention that it's AMD 65nm chips. I do know there already plenty of 65nm chips available on market by Intel

This post has been edited by jcliew: Mar 19 2007, 11:39 PM

ATi keep on delay n this act might kill themselve coz nVidia 8-series oledi debut quite sum times. It will be quite hard 4 ATi snatch back customers coz nVidia oldei cum out wif budget version 8800GTS 320MB which more alternative 2 end users

When R600 out i'm sure nVidia will cum out wif more variant of 8-series cards such as 8800GS who knows??
It's good news 4 end users like us

Yup
agreed wif taxidoor.
d "ultra" is used when d 8600GTS still not named officially thought. we used to heard different name in rumours aren't we?

Great
I'll be saving $$$ 2 giv a major upgrade 2 my current setup
New intel pocs model plus d release of nVidia 8-series midrange cards

AMD/ATi damn slow
still got a month more to wait

it was due to d memory bandwidth limitations dude
128bit can't beat 256bit in sum cases