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post Apr 22 2017, 01:28 PM, updated 9y ago

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I never had experience with UiTM worker before? Genuinely curious of their work ethic and core knowledge. We all know the people who go there are normally not accepted elsewhere

My story - went to a Klinik Kesihatan. Got one doctor from UiTM and another from UM (Nurse taking my blood tell me this when I ask about this two young doctor in the room) . Both House Officer. Since overcrowded got two patient in one room so I have the benefit of watching another pt.

Case : One 60 yo pakcik complaining for pain in urethra after discharge 2 days ago witb urinary catherisation (tube insert in his penis with bags so no need to toilet) . The UiTM doctor talk for 30s before saying that it might be infection so just can go back home with some antibiotic.

Thankfully the young UM doctor overheard and stop her and say you can't just do that. He say it is cause by due to introduction of bacteria from urinary catheterisation. Need to remove the equipment, do urine test, check bacteria culture, give antibiotics and put under observation as got chance of kidney damage.

UM doctor probably just save that old pakcik life from kidney damage.

I know about the condition more after talking to my doctor friend who confirm the common side effect of the procedure, and don't know the reason why that uitm doctor anyhow want to leave pt without removing the causative equipment first.

TLDR - UM doc save the day after UITM doc make a mistake.

Edit - why everyone say racist? I never mention race.

The doctor both Malay! Are you implying UM don't have Malay? That's bloody racist. Recently I saw blood donation drive from UM med student and got Malay too.

Edit 2 - some people said UiTM medical grad achieve well on medical quiz and have good quality. Maybe i don't know much about the patient case and harsh on the UiTM doc action. She might even do the right course of action. Better having a doctor than none at all. UiTM med please keep up the good work smile.gif



Everyone make mistake. What's your story?

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how u know the doctor graduated from where?

they got badge?
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both bodo.

need to check background why need catherisation in the first place.

perhaps a call to the uro MO first (depending on the reason of catherisation) whether can remove the catheter.
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QUOTE(our_team89 @ Apr 22 2017, 01:34 PM)
how u know the doctor graduated from where?

they got badge?
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you might have just single handedly ruined this thread.
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Ayam hired Uitm with 4 years working experience and end up money gone missing. Balance Sheet not balance Gst over submitted.

Ayam fucuk her kaw kaw and file complaint to MIA


True story.
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Govt doctor kill patients thru incompentency is NOT murder

ALL great doctors learn by many mistakes



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Congratulations and welcome to the real world OP, where people are learning by experience and dont have the luxury of hindsight like most people here
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post Apr 22 2017, 01:42 PM

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Uitm dono how to English. Cannot make it. Um all standard ok lagi
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QUOTE(our_team89 @ Apr 22 2017, 01:34 PM)
how u know the doctor graduated from where?

they got badge?
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No I was suspected with dengue. So i inside the room waiting for nurse. I talk to nurse about the doctor who both look young. She said the young lady from UiTM, the guy from UM.

The UiTM aqeks quite pretty, the guy look nerdy typical from UM laugh.gif

QUOTE(slimey @ Apr 22 2017, 01:36 PM)
both bodo.

need to check background why need catherisation  in the first place.

perhaps a call to the uro MO first (depending on the reason of catherisation) whether can remove the catheter.
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Dont know. The old guy was push with his wheelchair to the red zone. I think there should be MO. So at least got escalation rather than discharge. Both HO. Dont expect anything except be a safe doctor maa

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Dari mana universiti pun sama juga..masuk kerja mesti ada commitment. Saya x malu kata kan, saya uitm's product and my monthly income is RM70K++ a month working italian oil and gas operator..
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QUOTE(Ibrahimovic @ Apr 22 2017, 01:44 PM)
No I was suspected with dengue. So i inside the room waiting for nurse. I talk to nurse about the doctor who both look young. She said the young lady from UiTM, the guy from UM.

The UiTM aqeks quite pretty, the guy look nerdy typical from UM laugh.gif
Dont know. The old guy was push with his wheelchair to the red zone. I think there should be MO. So at least got escalation rather than discharge. Both HO. Dont expect anything except be a safe doctor maa
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sounds like a green case actually.
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Not sure about UITM but there was a doctor from UM in the govt clinic I was at and I was lucky I got her as my doctor and the way she diagnose was pretty professional. I notice many other doctors were getting her input while seeing their patients.
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All grads make mistakes, not just UITM grads.

I have my fair share of horror stories from local and foreign grads from all unis.

Some of my worst were from UTP. Out of 6 I hired, 5 were major disappointments.

In fact I never ever hire grads from UTP anymore.




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Stop being racist. Not all uitm graduate are bad.
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QUOTE(thelws @ Apr 22 2017, 01:42 PM)
Uitm dono how to English. Cannot make it. Um all standard ok lagi
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Your English as bad though... whistling.gif Are you from UiTM as well? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(soulseeker6187 @ Apr 22 2017, 01:50 PM)
Stop being racist. Not all uitm graduate are bad.
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My current sous chef is from uitm. He's very good. My previous sous chef also from uitm, also very good. Even my brother also from uitm, now with exxon mobil. When everyone else in the o&g industry got axed, he still able to keep his job.

So yeah, i do think uitm produced good graduates. But as with everything else, there will be bad apples.

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Can we just fucking close this thread

It is 2017 and people these days are still stereotyping with this kind of nonsenses.

Ive seen one UK grads (guess which vroom) dont even know how to use MS excel for basics formula to speed up ur work..and working in banking sector

Sikit2 nak racist

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QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Apr 22 2017, 01:47 PM)
Not sure about UITM but there was a doctor from UM in the govt clinic I was at and I was lucky I got her as my doctor and the way she diagnose was pretty professional. I notice many other doctors were getting her input while seeing their patients.
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Majority of Uitm medical fresh grad better then um nowadays la brother. UM medical has dropped so low in quality even iptas are better. No idea what happened, my experienced with them. But so far i would say UKM produce the best.

But it all depends on the individuals. Even those graduated from russia or indon sometimes perform much much better than RCSI. So no u cant really compare which university they come from.

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QUOTE(slimey @ Apr 22 2017, 01:46 PM)
sounds like a green case actually.
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No idea. I only know that pakcik was carried to the back away from regular pt to red/yellow zone.

I think that doctor just want to find more experience MO. I went there almost 11pm, very little doctor around, most are young but I do see old MO walking around at the back.

I'm happy that old pakcik get more senior input. After all, if don't know anything need to ask other people. That UiTM gurl probably a bit tired, who knows.
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Experience from hubby's co.
International co. with a contract quota tied with uitm
Hired 300
Average work attitude 30
Can think alike or compete side by side with other minorities 5
The rest cabut/Mia/pecat....Etc

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QUOTE(syazwan @ Apr 22 2017, 01:53 PM)
Can we just fucking close this thread

It is 2017 and people these days are still stereotyping with this kind of nonsenses.

Ive seen one UK grads (guess which vroom) dont even know how to use MS excel for basics formula to speed up ur work..and working in banking sector

Sikit2 nak racist
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Eh no la bro. Both the doctor are Malay. I think both good but maybe in some area, UM are better.

UiTM med school still new. Just need a bit careful but they will improve with time.

Lots of people complain about UITM, just want to see if true or just hate. I got only 1 story to share as I don't have close coworler from uitm.
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QUOTE(Ibrahimovic @ Apr 22 2017, 02:06 PM)
Eh no la bro. Both the doctor are Malay. I think both good but maybe in some area, UM are better.

UiTM med school still new. Just need a bit careful but they will improve with time.

Lots of people complain about UITM, just want to see if true or just hate. I got only 1 story to share as I don't have close coworler from uitm.
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U cannot said all quality are same,
Yet their come from uitm, but the way he learn and creativity is depends on individual.

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My company HR and i interview many many uitm grads before, unfortunately 8/10 or them cant even speak normal english during interview, hmm...ar...er... etc. But some could speak above average and command language in a proper way.

However, many that we met request directly blh cakap dalam bahasa? How could these graduated from Uni? Practice abit at home before interview, embarrass own and their school.
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Apr 22 2017, 01:53 PM)
My current sous chef is from uitm. He's very good. My previous sous chef also from uitm, also very good. Even my brother also from uitm, now with exxon mobil. When everyone else in the o&g industry got axed, he still able to keep his job.

So yeah, i do think uitm produced good graduates. But as with everything else, there will be bad apples.
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UiTM produces more than 15k students every year. Of course there will be plenty of bad apples. whistling.gif
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My company hired 1 Uitm comp science degree holder. As a non native English speaker, his English is okay. However when it comes troubleshooting very technical problems which he is hired to perform, he will always ask how ah how ah without ownself doing some homework... Need everyone to spoon feed like crazy. Every step also want us to confirm can or not. Best of all, he is not a fresh grad. 30 years old chap.
I mean in uitm IT courses are promoting such spoon feed culture ??

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sejak bile UiTM ade medical course??
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QUOTE(GrimlockRYAN @ Apr 22 2017, 02:46 PM)
freaking ironic , them uitm students demand the uni for bumi only but when graduate , they get discriminated by everyone pula.

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QUOTE(our_team89 @ Apr 22 2017, 01:34 PM)
how u know the doctor graduated from where?

they got badge?
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QUOTE(ChuiChuiShui @ Apr 22 2017, 02:30 PM)
My company HR and i interview many many uitm grads before, unfortunately 8/10 or them cant even speak normal english during interview, hmm...ar...er... etc. But some could speak above average and command language in a proper way.

However, many that we met request directly blh cakap dalam bahasa? How could these graduated from Uni? Practice abit at home before interview, embarrass own and their school.
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I force to learn English from English-speaking Chinese. I think this is why UiTM cant speak English well as no exposure.

Btw, i dont know true or not but nationalism is very strong in uitm so they might want BM instead of speaking in English



Btw who lipot my thread! I never even mention the race. You butthurt jangan until like this.
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Apr 22 2017, 02:00 PM)
Majority of Uitm medical fresh grad better then um nowadays la brother. UM medical has dropped so low in quality even iptas are better.  No idea what happened, my experienced with them. But so far i would say UKM produce the best.

But it all depends on the individuals. Even those graduated from russia or indon sometimes perform much much better than RCSI. So no u cant really compare which university they come from.
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QUOTE(our_team89 @ Apr 22 2017, 01:34 PM)
how u know the doctor graduated from where?

they got badge?
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If small clinic the DR name and qualification including university will be on the door or displayed some were to tell patients their Dr not fakes 😁

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QUOTE(mattsynyster @ Apr 22 2017, 02:39 PM)

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I already clarify this. The nurse in charge told me. If she lie, then another story
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Uitm med students aren't that bad tbh, they are the runner up for the medic olympiad.

I've met a um grad in ortho posting who doesn't know where the olecranon is located, he asked med students to teach him knee exam as well lel
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QUOTE(fabularis @ Apr 22 2017, 02:35 PM)
sejak bile UiTM ade medical course??
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Dah ada dah bang skrg.
That's why uitm got hospital uitm in Sg Buloh

Btw, my reply for TS. My company hired a lot of graduate from uitm. Some of them are good, ada yg average only

Ada juga hired from overseas one. Engerish farking gud, but bila buat kerja sama je selow.
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QUOTE(seventwo @ Apr 22 2017, 02:43 PM)
Dah ada dah bang skrg.
That's why uitm got hospital uitm in Sg Buloh

Btw, my reply for TS. My company hired a lot of graduate from uitm. Some of them are good, ada yg average only

Ada juga hired from overseas one. Engerish farking gud, but bila buat kerja sama je selow.
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Apr 22 2017, 02:35 PM)
My company hired 1 Uitm comp science degree holder. As a non native English speaker, his English is okay. However when it comes troubleshooting very technical problems which he is hired to perform, he will always ask how ah how ah without ownself doing some homework... Need everyone to spoon feed like crazy. Every step also want us to confirm can or not. Best of all, he is not a fresh grad. 30 years old chap.
I mean in uitm IT courses are promoting such spoon feed culture ??
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In most cases it's true. Spoon feeding is rampant whistling.gif


QUOTE(fabularis @ Apr 22 2017, 02:35 PM)
sejak bile UiTM ade medical course??
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More than 10 years. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(haturaya @ Apr 22 2017, 02:44 PM)
In most cases it's true. Spoon feeding is rampant  whistling.gif
More than 10 years.  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(fabularis @ Apr 22 2017, 02:44 PM)
gedik ar UiTM nie...zzzzz
btw i dah start cupcake biz lol
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Wow! Really ah?
Where you promote ur bizz? Got insta/fb to see? brows.gif
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QUOTE(fabularis @ Apr 22 2017, 02:45 PM)
hmm.gif  damn..now i feel old  cry.gif
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Not old yet, just not that young anymore thumbup.gif sweat.gif
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The fact UITM served it purpose really well makes some k/tard here butthurt till need to spread typical judgement everytime eventhough most just based on hatred and lies.

UiTM produced large number of graduates every year. I can see many of my friends shine really well in their industry. Of course there are some failures, and those who failed mostly got attitude prob and not even get a good grade in University.
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QUOTE(haturaya @ Apr 22 2017, 02:50 PM)
Not old yet, just not that young anymore  thumbup.gif  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(-cmi- @ Apr 22 2017, 03:00 PM)
The fact UITM served it purpose really well makes some k/tard here butthurt till need to spread typical judgement everytime eventhough most just based on hatred and lies.

UiTM produced large number of graduates every year. I can see many of my friends shine really well in their industry. Of course there are some failures, and those who failed mostly got attitude prob and not even get a good grade in University.
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Failure rate more than success story by how much ratio.......mmmphh.....how about 7 out of 10 or how about more severe 9 out of 10.

This mean it put alot of stress to hiring manager receiving resume from uitm grad. Instead of concentrate reviewing their competent skill matching with company needs, they wasting more time stress whether should calling them for interview.
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QUOTE(soulseeker6187 @ Apr 22 2017, 01:50 PM)
Stop being racist. Not all uitm graduate are bad.
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Apr 22 2017, 03:13 PM)
This mean it put alot of stress to hiring manager receiving resume from uitm grad. Instead of concentrate reviewing their competent skill matching with company needs, they wasting more time stress whether should calling them for interview.
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i beg to differ. it made my life so much easier. uitm resumes have a special place in my office
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Apr 22 2017, 03:13 PM)
Failure rate more than success story by how much ratio.......mmmphh.....how about 7 out of 10 or how about more severe 9 out of 10.

This mean it put alot of stress to hiring manager receiving resume from uitm grad. Instead of concentrate reviewing their competent skill matching with company needs, they wasting more time stress whether should calling them for interview.
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Failur story more bcoz of uitm is for bangso tongkat
We knoe bangso persoal very jelly one brows.gif
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Apr 22 2017, 03:21 PM)
i beg to differ. it made my life so much easier. uitm resumes have a special place in my office
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QUOTE(slimey @ Apr 22 2017, 01:36 PM)
both bodo.

need to check background why need catherisation  in the first place.

perhaps a call to the uro MO first (depending on the reason of catherisation) whether can remove the catheter.
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I kind of agree with the UM grad.
You can always remove the catheter and observe whether there is any evidence of urinary retention.
But whether or not to give antibiotic, I'm not so convinced.
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QUOTE(our_team89 @ Apr 22 2017, 01:34 PM)
how u know the doctor graduated from where?

they got badge?
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Apr 22 2017, 03:13 PM)
Failure rate more than success story by how much ratio.......mmmphh.....how about 7 out of 10 or how about more severe 9 out of 10.

This mean it put alot of stress to hiring manager receiving resume from uitm grad. Instead of concentrate reviewing their competent skill matching with company needs, they wasting more time stress whether should calling them for interview.
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You sounds stupid and ignorant.
You got any statistic in your hand?
I dont think you got any experience mixing up with others from various background yet you dare to put ratio out from nothing.
And those who applies for jobs coming from various background, not just one Uni. UITM graduates still pretty much better than some public uni and most private uni out there.

But i know you and other k/tards not looking for fact so keep butthurting your holes.

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there are good and bad apple lah TS....

for eg. this uitm graduate....

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QUOTE(Ibrahimovic @ Apr 22 2017, 01:44 PM)
No I was suspected with dengue. So i inside the room waiting for nurse. I talk to nurse about the doctor who both look young. She said the young lady from UiTM, the guy from UM.

The UiTM aqeks quite pretty, the guy look nerdy typical from UM laugh.gif
so the uitm doc is a female and the UM doc is a guy?

TRIGGERED

man can never question a woman. WOMAN IS ALWAYS RIGHT.

WHAT IS THIS? WHERE ARE THE WOMEN'S RIGHTS?


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Not all are bad. I had experience working with a couple of uitm grads. Some are arrogant but knows nothing, some are humble but intelligent. The one that i dislike is the former one. Sembang lebat, kerja tak reti buat. the latter one is my best buddy.
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QUOTE(ipohmali70 @ Apr 22 2017, 01:48 PM)
All grads make mistakes, not just UITM grads. 

I have my fair share of horror stories from local and foreign grads from all unis.

Some of my worst were from UTP.  Out of 6 I hired, 5 were major disappointments. 

In fact I never ever hire grads from UTP anymore.
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Work with many uitm grads before.
Have to say the top 5% uitm grads can be as good as top 20% grads from um.

But when look at bottom 20% uitm grads Vs bottom 5% um grads, the UM grads win.
What i want to say is, many good students from uitm, but there are hell alot more rempit students from uitm due to their lenient entry requirement.

And awek uitm really not bad though. Have many uitm intern with tight baju. Hnnnngh.
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QUOTE(ZeonKid @ Apr 22 2017, 04:03 PM)
Work with many uitm grads before.
Have to say the top 5% uitm grads can be as good as top 20% grads from um.

But when look at bottom 20% uitm grads Vs bottom 5% um grads, the UM grads win.
What i want to say is, many good students from uitm, but there are hell alot more rempit students from uitm due to their lenient entry requirement.

And awek uitm really not bad though. Have many uitm intern with tight baju. Hnnnngh.
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There really need a employer satisfaction statistics done on local grad. Then can really know which the best.

But need to be impartial because usually some will hide bad report because tercabar
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QUOTE(soulseeker6187 @ Apr 22 2017, 01:50 PM)
Stop being racist. Not all uitm graduate are bad.
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Not to be racist.

But the doctor that save my dad's life is a Malay auntie.
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My client recruit uitm graduate.. Some are OK but most of them tak boleh pakai

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QUOTE(soulseeker6187 @ Apr 22 2017, 01:50 PM)
Stop being racist. Not all uitm graduate are bad.
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Critizing uitm grads is not racist la bro. Uitm is not a racist university accepting only one race. Don't be so sensitive.

O wai...
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Meanwhile utar aldy rank 2nd

And Uitm Cukur
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QUOTE(HJ_Ishimori @ Apr 22 2017, 01:45 PM)
Dari mana universiti pun sama juga..masuk kerja mesti ada commitment. Saya x malu kata kan, saya uitm's product and my monthly income is RM70K++ a month working italian oil and gas operator..
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see everyone here miss the point of all this thread. do oil & gas , pay is 70k what for suffer as doctor.
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QUOTE(ChuiChuiShui @ Apr 22 2017, 02:30 PM)
My company HR and i interview many many uitm grads before, unfortunately 8/10 or them cant even speak normal english during interview, hmm...ar...er... etc. But some could speak above average and command language in a proper way.

However, many that we met request directly blh cakap dalam bahasa? How could these graduated from Uni? Practice abit at home before interview, embarrass own and their school.
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Again..english is only a language..not a measure of intelligence. Put things around, if they interviewed you & you cant speak rempit language, do u think urself not intelligent?

English can be improved over time.
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QUOTE(07XII @ Apr 22 2017, 04:50 PM)
some of uitm students, enter uitm is because purely their choice...these stdnts are on par with those UM or even oversea graduates...
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QUOTE(feekle @ Apr 22 2017, 04:54 PM)
Again..english is only a language..not a measure of intelligence. Put things around, if they interviewed you & you cant speak rempit language, do u think urself not intelligent?

English can be improved over time.
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I didn't think he talk about intelligence. Simply that the command of English is poor. Maybe the company deal a lot in English, that's why need English. It is something to look into by UiTM if this happen to graduate.

Like it or not, English is the lingua franca of business. If you have one candidate who can speak English while another are not, the choice is simple. Only take the less qualify candidate when he is the only choice


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QUOTE(thelws @ Apr 22 2017, 01:42 PM)
Uitm dono how to English. Cannot make it. Um all standard ok lagi
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Apr 22 2017, 02:35 PM)
My company hired 1 Uitm comp science degree holder. As a non native English speaker, his English is okay. However when it comes troubleshooting very technical problems which he is hired to perform, he will always ask how ah how ah without ownself doing some homework... Need everyone to spoon feed like crazy. Every step also want us to confirm can or not. Best of all, he is not a fresh grad. 30 years old chap.
I mean in uitm IT courses are promoting such spoon feed culture ??
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"Every step also want us to confirm can or not"

This basically means that he doesn't know or familiar with the work culture or SOP of your company or department.

So the next question is, do u have any SOP when troubleshooting things or u just adopt trial and error method?

If the junior didn't know dept SOP, do u know who should be taking the hots? It's the seniors for not being able to guide the juniors.
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QUOTE(-cmi- @ Apr 22 2017, 03:37 PM)
You sounds stupid and ignorant.
You got any statistic in your hand?
I dont think you got any experience mixing up with others from various background yet you dare to put ratio out from nothing.
And those who applies for jobs coming from various background, not just one Uni. UITM graduates still pretty much better than some public uni and most private uni out there.

But i know you and other k/tards not looking for fact so keep butthurting your holes.
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Proton marketing from um perodua from uitm.do the math
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my degree was from MMU, after 10 years of working experience.

now doing master in uitm...i came here bcoz for my course, only uitm and mmu offered it in malaysia..i opted for uitm coz i want to experience new environment. enough of mmu.

what i want to say is fresh degree grad should go get some working experience before further to masters level..it will help them a lot to do well in their study bcoz of their experience.

what i like here in uitm is the quality of the Prof/Dr (mostly overseas phd).

this is my last semester, i'm on course to achieve top grade (hopefully).
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My dad has bad experiences with uitm engineering grads..he said basics pun tak tahu.. Working time play game etc..he was recently very impressed with a malay girl from UM..
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my company a lot of UiTM grads. They aren't particular bad.

Just that when u compare an overseas grad to them, u can see huge difference in the way they do their work and communicate.
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QUOTE(thelws @ Apr 22 2017, 01:42 PM)
Uitm dono how to English. Cannot make it. Um all standard ok lagi
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QUOTE(weyyt @ Apr 22 2017, 05:37 PM)
my company a lot of UiTM grads. They aren't particular bad.

Just that when u compare an overseas grad to them, u can see huge difference in the way they do their work and communicate.
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thats for sure..any local grad will have huge difference when compare with overseas grad biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ListenToTheAngin @ Apr 22 2017, 04:42 PM)
Not to be racist.

But the doctor that save my dad's life is a Malay auntie.
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QUOTE(Ibrahimovic @ Apr 22 2017, 01:28 PM)
I never had experience with UiTM worker before? Genuinely curious of their work ethic and core knowledge. We all know the people who go there are normally not accepted elsewhere

My story - went to a Klinik Kesihatan. Got one doctor from UiTM and another from UM. Both House Officer. Since overcrowded got two patient in one room so I have the benefit of watching another pt.

Case : One 60 yo pakcik complaining for pain in urethra after discharge 2 days ago witb urinary catherisation (tube insert in his penis with bags so no need to toilet) . The UiTM doctor talk for 30s before saying that it might be infection so just can go back home with some antibiotic.

Thankfully the young UM doctor overheard and stop her and say you can't just do that. He say it is cause by due to introduction of bacteria from urinary catheterisation. Need to remove the equipment, do urine test, check bacteria culture, give antibiotics and put under observation as got chance of kidney damage.

UM doctor probably just save that old pakcik life from kidney damage.

I know about the condition more after talking to my doctor friend who confirm the common side effect of the procedure, and don't know the reason why that uitm doctor anyhow want to leave pt without removing the causative equipment first.

TLDR - UM doc save the day after UITM doc make a mistake.
Everyone make mistake. What's your story?
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It's a matter of whether you want to be efficient or effective.

Efficient - hit them with broad spectrum antibiotic. Wouldnt have kidney damage la if take antibiotic.

Effective - do the test and find out which bacteria. Some case maybe non bacteria, so no need antibiotic.

Got to weight the pros and cons of both. Antibiotic abuse is on the rise. And there are strains of antibiotic resistance bacteria.

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QUOTE(our_team89 @ Apr 22 2017, 01:34 PM)
how u know the doctor graduated from where?

they got badge?
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QUOTE(nonexno @ Apr 22 2017, 06:28 PM)
It's a matter of whether you want to be efficient or effective.

Efficient - hit them with broad spectrum antibiotic. Wouldnt have kidney damage la if take antibiotic.

Effective - do the test and find out which bacteria. Some case maybe non bacteria, so no need antibiotic.

Got to weight the pros and cons of both. Antibiotic abuse is on the rise. And there are strains of antibiotic resistance bacteria.
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How about the removal of catheter? Pakcik is outpatient after stay very long inpatient in hospital. I don't know about this but I check Internet on CAUTI that need to replace.
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To enter UM as a medical student is freaking hard

they are one of the cream of the crops

anyway, base on my experience, my previous engineering firm boss say this

He wont take UiTM graduate unless they are First Class holder

The other engineering firm I worked in, damn... the boss regretted he hired the Second Upper UiTM graduate.
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QUOTE(comfyguy8 @ Apr 22 2017, 06:49 PM)
My experience UITM awek can kemut and UTAR amoi like dead fish.
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QUOTE(ipohmali70 @ Apr 22 2017, 01:48 PM)
All grads make mistakes, not just UITM grads. 

I have my fair share of horror stories from local and foreign grads from all unis.

Some of my worst were from UTP.  Out of 6 I hired, 5 were major disappointments. 

In fact I never ever hire grads from UTP anymore.
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what did the grads do?
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QUOTE(TheReaderReads @ Apr 22 2017, 06:48 PM)
To enter UM as a medical student is freaking hard

they are one of the cream of the crops

anyway, base on my experience, my previous engineering firm boss say this

He wont take UiTM graduate unless they are First Class holder

The other engineering firm I worked in, damn... the boss regretted he hired the Second Upper UiTM graduate.
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QUOTE(comfyguy8 @ Apr 22 2017, 06:49 PM)
My experience UITM awek can kemut and UTAR amoi like dead fish.
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QUOTE(Ibrahimovic @ Apr 22 2017, 06:41 PM)
How about the removal of catheter? Pakcik is outpatient after stay very long inpatient in hospital. I don't know about this but I check Internet on CAUTI that need to replace.
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The catheter should be removed as soon as the catheter is not needed anymore.
But in case long term catheterization is unavoidable (such as chronic urinary retention of any cause), then the catheter must be exchanged every 2 weeks (6 weeks if it is a silicone catheter)
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QUOTE(our_team89 @ Apr 22 2017, 01:34 PM)
how u know the doctor graduated from where?

they got badge?
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This!
Sohai rasis thread
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QUOTE(sjr @ Apr 22 2017, 03:28 PM)
I kind of agree with the UM grad.
You can always remove the catheter and observe whether there is any evidence of urinary retention.
But whether or not to give antibiotic, I'm not so convinced.
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there are some instances where removing catheter could cause a lot of problem.

like recent surgery on the bladder etc.......
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QUOTE(sjr @ Apr 22 2017, 07:00 PM)
The catheter should be removed as soon as the catheter is not needed anymore.
But in case long term catheterization is unavoidable (such as chronic urinary retention of any cause), then the catheter must be exchanged every 2 weeks (6 weeks if it is a silicone catheter)
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sounds like an experienced person.
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QUOTE(GrimlockRYAN @ Apr 22 2017, 01:46 PM)
freaking ironic , them uitm students demand the uni for bumi only but when graduate , they get discriminated by everyone pula.

padan muka to those students
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QUOTE(-cmi- @ Apr 22 2017, 03:37 PM)
You sounds stupid and ignorant.
You got any statistic in your hand?
I dont think you got any experience mixing up with others from various background yet you dare to put ratio out from nothing.
And those who applies for jobs coming from various background, not just one Uni. UITM graduates still pretty much better than some public uni and most private uni out there.

But i know you and other k/tards not looking for fact so keep butthurting your holes.
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>UITM graduates still pretty much better than some public uni and most private uni out there.

Statement bodoh of the year laugh.gif
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QUOTE(goodiemangold @ Apr 22 2017, 07:00 PM)
This!
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How many times need to explain. Nurse told me. She lie to me another story. Isnt it more racist to imply no Malay smart enough for UM? FYI that doctor is Malay if you check my post in second page

QUOTE(sjr @ Apr 22 2017, 07:00 PM)
The catheter should be removed as soon as the catheter is not needed anymore.
But in case long term catheterization is unavoidable (such as chronic urinary retention of any cause), then the catheter must be exchanged every 2 weeks (6 weeks if it is a silicone catheter)
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Thanks doctor!

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QUOTE(ZeonKid @ Apr 22 2017, 04:03 PM)
Work with many uitm grads before.
Have to say the top 5% uitm grads can be as good as top 20% grads from um.

But when look at bottom 20% uitm grads Vs bottom 5% um grads, the UM grads win.
What i want to say is, many good students from uitm, but there are hell alot more rempit students from uitm due to their lenient entry requirement.

And awek uitm really not bad though. Have many uitm intern with tight baju. Hnnnngh.
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Of course... thumbup.gif hnnnngggh Especially from certain faculty (mass comm, music, )


QUOTE(alexcky @ Apr 22 2017, 04:44 PM)
My client recruit uitm graduate.. Some are OK but most of them tak boleh pakai
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Too many of them graduated every year. Of course statistically you'll encounter many bad one. whistling.gif


QUOTE(hazremi @ Apr 22 2017, 05:29 PM)
my degree was from MMU, after 10 years of working experience.

now doing master in uitm...i came here bcoz for my course, only uitm and mmu offered it in malaysia..i opted for uitm coz i want to experience new environment. enough of mmu.

what i want to say is fresh degree grad should go get some working experience before further to masters level..it will help them a lot to do well in their study bcoz of their experience.

what i like here in uitm is the quality of the Prof/Dr (mostly overseas phd).

this is my last semester, i'm on course to achieve top grade (hopefully).
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QUOTE(haturaya @ Apr 22 2017, 07:47 PM)
Of course...  thumbup.gif  hnnnngggh Especially from certain faculty (mass comm, music, )
Too many of them graduated every year. Of course statistically you'll encounter many bad one.  whistling.gif
Which faculty you're?  hmm.gif
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It's not just one or two company I'm talking about.. I'm based on few hundred samples and conclude this hypothesis

U can ask Singapore companies.. Which are the uni graduate they prefer?
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i interview many from experience managers to freshgrad, if you want good people you have to do alot of different way to test them. Uitm grads are not really that good, UM grads ain't that great either.
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QUOTE(Pengie @ Apr 22 2017, 06:54 PM)
what did the grads do?
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Sighhhhhh..... loooooong story.

To be clear, these were all interns, not grads.

Typically they serve for 7 months.

If they are unable to behave properly as interns, what more can you say when they graduate?
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QUOTE(drajm @ Apr 22 2017, 05:54 PM)
see everyone here miss the point of all this thread. do oil & gas , pay is 70k what for suffer as doctor.
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QUOTE(feekle @ Apr 22 2017, 04:54 PM)
Again..english is only a language..not a measure of intelligence. Put things around, if they interviewed you & you cant speak rempit language, do u think urself not intelligent?

English can be improved over time.
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Boss, the problem is impression is bad whenever they "self volunteer" not to speak in english during the interview as interviewer did asked them in english.

I believe that if i knew the company that i going to interview is more bahasa style(sometimes cn tell from google and company website), then i will prepare myself better in bahasa in case they interview me in bahasa. Is the matter of self preparation. In this case, i will treat them not intelligent enough as lazy to do some/minor research from online?

I mean, interviewees must prepare in a better way, else they are embarrassed themselve.

If they cnt even passed first impression, then how possible interviewers will remember them? Or maybe remember in a bad way? So how to measure their intelligent if they not getting the job?
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QUOTE(slimey @ Apr 22 2017, 07:03 PM)
there are some instances where removing catheter could cause a lot of problem.

like recent surgery on the bladder etc.......
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If there was a recent surgery, there will be a surgeon's note. Patient or family will tell they have undergone some surgery.
Surgery on bladder will usually have a scar. In surgery using cystoscope, e.g. TURP, catheter can be removed. If the patient developed AUR, then just reinsert the catheter.

Some urology centers have day care service, and the patient will be advised to go there directly if they encountered problem. The surgeon or the uro mo will also tell patient what to do...
Unless the patient/family is so dumb until they can't even say a word or produce the surgeon's note, don't even think the pain is related to the surgery, then that's too bad lah...
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QUOTE(feekle @ Apr 22 2017, 04:54 PM)
Again..english is only a language..not a measure of intelligence. Put things around, if they interviewed you & you cant speak rempit language, do u think urself not intelligent?

English can be improved over time.
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Failing at English may not be a measure of intelligence, but it sure as hell is a measure of attitude.

English is an international language and is valuable for reaearch. And u want to compare that to bahasa rempit?
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QUOTE(hazremi @ Apr 22 2017, 05:29 PM)
my degree was from MMU, after 10 years of working experience.

now doing master in uitm...i came here bcoz for my course, only uitm and mmu offered it in malaysia..i opted for uitm coz i want to experience new environment. enough of mmu.

what i want to say is fresh degree grad should go get some working experience before further to masters level..it will help them a lot to do well in their study bcoz of their experience.

what i like here in uitm is the quality of the Prof/Dr (mostly overseas phd).

this is my last semester, i'm on course to achieve top grade (hopefully).
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Always snake

Always mc, EL

Alot of excuses

"Alahhhh i tak tau buat ler ni..".. long pause stare at each other. Then "ape macam ni?"
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Lol, my uitm colleague oso like dis,every week sure mc few days, fever la, stomachache la all kind of sickness oso come out
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LOL

racist tered is racist tered

while perception about UiTM is no better than UNITAR/UTAR, but mocking UiTM are better while for UNITAR u guys just diam2 duwan to bring it out

the only difference is, negative perception on quality towards UiTM didnt reflect the actual reality as general, compare to negative perception on quality towards UNITAR as its as bad as the reality they had
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orang kite 1st post in this thread very serious typing paragraph explain how uitm are actually not bad


few post later cant tahan call other jelly biadap, tongkat my right!


plis la, don make ppl laugh can onot lul
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Apr 22 2017, 09:17 PM)
LOL

racist tered is racist tered

while perception about UiTM is no better than UNITAR/UTAR, but mocking UiTM are better while for UNITAR u guys just diam2 duwan to bring it out

the only difference is, negative perception on quality towards UiTM didnt reflect the actual reality as general, compare to negative perception on quality towards UNITAR as its as bad as the reality they had
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UNITAR != UTAR


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QUOTE(keown83 @ Apr 22 2017, 09:17 PM)
LOL

racist tered is racist tered

while perception about UiTM is no better than UNITAR/UTAR, but mocking UiTM are better while for UNITAR u guys just diam2 duwan to bring it out

the only difference is, negative perception on quality towards UiTM didnt reflect the actual reality as general, compare to negative perception on quality towards UNITAR as its as bad as the reality they had
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?

utar now no.2 in malaysia

most their graduate can secure job in msia and sg

meanwhile most of your belove uitm cant find job go on news cry pama kena discriminate

and u able to type out that last paragraph?

now wonder forever tercabar
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u open any thread with the word UiTM in it, 100% all sure bash one. K tard mentality, all UiTM students = bad/useless/lazy etc.

UTAR/UNITAR = the best/genius/hardworking etc..k logic 101.

i remember got 1 amoi join my dept few years back, grad from GOD UNI = UTAR.

heard story from my colleague, she said "cannot tahan work like this, everyday go back late, a lot of pressure etc2".

join for 1 week, after that straight resign. kek







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QUOTE(yandebunena @ Apr 22 2017, 09:23 PM)
?

utar now no.2 in malaysia

most their graduate can secure job in msia and sg

meanwhile most of your belove uitm cant find job go on news cry pama kena discriminate

and u able to type out that last paragraph?

now wonder forever tercabar
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asalkan semua salah org lain memang x kesah bro
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QUOTE(sixshot @ Apr 22 2017, 09:30 PM)
u open any thread with the word UiTM in it, 100% all sure bash one. K tard mentality, all UiTM students = bad/useless/lazy etc.

UTAR/UNITAR = the best/genius/hardworking etc..k logic 101.

i remember got 1 amoi join my dept few years back, grad from GOD UNI = UTAR.

heard story from my colleague, she said "cannot tahan work like this, everyday go back late, a lot of pressure etc2".

join for 1 week, after that straight resign. kek
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the thing is from any uni sure got graduate attitude sampah...

just because uitm is big, got lots of campuses, so their numbers of sampah attitude easier to highlight..
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QUOTE(yandebunena @ Apr 22 2017, 09:23 PM)
?

utar now no.2 in malaysia

most their graduate can secure job in msia and sg

meanwhile most of your belove uitm cant find job go on news cry pama kena discriminate

and u able to type out that last paragraph?

now wonder forever tercabar
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LEL

was that fact coming out from ur anus? its really hilarious as its trully contradict the real situation in this real world

ya yaa yaa i know u guys love to claim sumthing thats not there

http://www.webometrics.info/en/Asia/Malaysia%20

Malaysia Ranking;

UiTM = 7
UTAR = 17

look at how 'failure' UiTM graduates are;

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


btw, whats ur paycheck? is ur paycheck & ur job better than this UiTM graduates above? can u share u 'superiority' over this 'failure' UiTM? i bet ur paycheck must be much better than them that u looked down on them so much
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Apr 22 2017, 09:36 PM)
LEL

was that fact coming out from ur anus? its really hilarious as its trully contradict the real situation in this real world

ya yaa yaa i know u guys love to claim sumthing thats not there

http://www.webometrics.info/en/Asia/Malaysia%20

Malaysia Ranking;

UiTM = 7
UTAR = 17

look at how 'failure' UiTM graduates are;

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


btw, whats ur paycheck? is ur paycheck & ur job better than this UiTM graduates above? can u share u 'superiority' over this 'failure' UiTM? i bet ur paycheck must be much better than them that u looked down on them so much
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wow, webometric, next what, top10 dotcom?

go legit Uni research site la

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-...asc/cols/scores

potrait of success lul, 4 keping sahaja? i wan save as.



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QUOTE(vanpersie91 @ Apr 22 2017, 09:34 PM)
the thing is from any uni sure got graduate attitude sampah...

just because uitm is big, got lots of campuses, so their numbers of sampah attitude easier to highlight..
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funny thing is, majority of people in K doesn't even has 1st hand experience in dealing with graduates that comes from different kind of backgrounds.

all Uni be it local/overseas has bad apples. but in K, any word with UiTM on it = bad/useless.

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Apr 22 2017, 09:36 PM)
LEL

was that fact coming out from ur anus? its really hilarious as its trully contradict the real situation in this real world

ya yaa yaa i know u guys love to claim sumthing thats not there

http://www.webometrics.info/en/Asia/Malaysia%20

Malaysia Ranking;

UiTM = 7
UTAR = 17

look at how 'failure' UiTM graduates are;

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


btw, whats ur paycheck? is ur paycheck & ur job better than this UiTM graduates above? can u share u 'superiority' over this 'failure' UiTM? i bet ur paycheck must be much better than them that u looked down on them so much
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Plenty of big shot from UiTM.... such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamarudin_Meranun
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QUOTE(sixshot @ Apr 22 2017, 09:49 PM)
funny thing is, majority of people in K doesn't even has 1st hand experience in dealing with graduates that comes from different kind of backgrounds.

all Uni be it local/overseas has bad apples. but in K, any word with UiTM on it = bad/useless.
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QUOTE(sixshot @ Apr 22 2017, 09:30 PM)
u open any thread with the word UiTM in it, 100% all sure bash one. K tard mentality, all UiTM students = bad/useless/lazy etc.

UTAR/UNITAR = the best/genius/hardworking etc..k logic 101.

i remember got 1 amoi join my dept few years back, grad from GOD UNI = UTAR.

heard story from my colleague, she said "cannot tahan work like this, everyday go back late, a lot of pressure etc2".

join for 1 week, after that straight resign. kek
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Lol u should see another way

At least the utar grad can secure a job in Ur company , n not scare of resign , y

Coz she can easily find another one


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UiTM fresh graduate came for interview empty handed. no cert no transcript, nothing. i told him to go back and bring those otherwise don't come for interview.
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Apr 22 2017, 09:36 PM)
LEL

was that fact coming out from ur anus? its really hilarious as its trully contradict the real situation in this real world

ya yaa yaa i know u guys love to claim sumthing thats not there

http://www.webometrics.info/en/Asia/Malaysia%20

Malaysia Ranking;

UiTM = 7
UTAR = 17

look at how 'failure' UiTM graduates are;

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


btw, whats ur paycheck? is ur paycheck & ur job better than this UiTM graduates above? can u share u 'superiority' over this 'failure' UiTM? i bet ur paycheck must be much better than them that u looked down on them so much
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Wao so successful

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QUOTE(yandebunena @ Apr 22 2017, 09:44 PM)
wow, webometric, next what, top10 dotcom?

go legit Uni research site la

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-...asc/cols/scores

potrait of success lul, 4 keping sahaja? i wan save as.
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LOL

its u are the one that said no one will hire any UiTM graduate

im just showing u the reality..& that is just from chemical course alone, not from full list of other course..& even that so, its just a few from thousands more of UiTM graduates who got a decent job, not yet counting those who venture into enterprenuership..some of them highlight their history as a UiTM graduates, some just love to be low profile..few picture alone is more than enough to prove that u just looked down on UiTM base on ur pure prejudice & thats it..its not base on fact

why u hate UiTM so much? is it becos alot of UiTM graduates surpassed u & excel in their life while u still in ur miserable life with peanuts pay? well if in thats the case, i understand ur hatred towards them

hows ur life? can u show ur career that is far better than them? can u share ur superiority compare to those UiTM graduates?

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I never had experience with UiTM worker before? Genuinely curious of their work ethic and core knowledge. We all know the people who go there are normally not accepted elsewhere



Everyone make mistake. What's your story?
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1) humble worker, come from not well off family, very appreciative of being given chance

2) lazy as fuck

the problem is , like all employer, once bitten twice shy, so it really depend on your first few impressions.
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UiTM fresh graduate came for interview empty handed. no cert no transcript, nothing. i told him to go back and bring those otherwise don't come for interview.
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i have seen also other Uni graduates sucks at interview but i never generalize them
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Wao so successful

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no no

they are a failure, according to /k/

salary for o&g engineer is damn cheap compare to all /k/ here u know

/k/ here especially those who looked down on UiTM graduates all income RM20k & above..all these O&G engineer graduated from UiTM is far inferior & salary far cheaper than pipu in /k/ ya know
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Apr 22 2017, 10:12 PM)
LOL

its u are the one that said no one will hire any UiTM graduate

im just showing u the reality..& that is just from chemical course alone, not from full list of other course..& even that so, its just a few from thousands more of UiTM graduates who got a decent job, not yet counting those who venture into enterprenuership..some of them highlight their history as a UiTM graduates, some just love to be low profile..few picture alone is more than enough to prove that u just looked down on UiTM base on ur pure prejudice & thats it..its not bas on fact

why u hate UiTM so much? is it becos alot of UiTM graduates surpassed u & excel in their life while u still in ur miserable life with peanuts pay? well if in that case, i understand ur hatred towards them
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oh wow, so hebat ah they, i lol abit while reading, really lol, not like the pretending 1 u used


gazillion in industry, never saw other need to try so hard like the uitm graduate


why u need to keep make it personal, is it u cant handle the truth or discussion here?



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QUOTE(yandebunena @ Apr 22 2017, 10:25 PM)
oh wow, so hebat ah they, i lol abit while reading, really lol, not like the pretending 1 u used
gazillion in industry, never saw other need to try so hard like the uitm graduate
why u need to keep make it personal, is it u cant handle the truth or discussion here?
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trying hard to mention u are loling..ahaa..ive seen that befur..the moment u say that i already knew u actually triggered..its ok..i understand that ego

wow..u've been in gazilion industries? u experience all of them? u've been to all the interview in gazilion industries & have seen ALL the UiTM graduates try so hard to get a job? im so impressed..ya i know BS alarm triggered so loud in ur statement but for a purpose to please ur delusional prejudice mind i would say i am impressed..

owh, its not personal..its just im curious bout u..becos u spur pure lies about UiTM graduates it looks like u have some sort of grudge towards them..im just curious thats all

well i dun know if its me who cant handle the truth or is it becos u spur bullshit so much..im sorry ive been in real world dealing with real people too much that i forgot what its like to be in delusional..u still remember that u said nobody will hire UiTM graduates? can u explain how we can have a gud discussion here when i have busted ur delusional prejudice claim about UiTM graduates?

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Apr 22 2017, 10:41 PM)
trying hard to mention u are loling..ahaa..ive seen that befur..the moment u say that i already knew u actually triggered..its ok..i understand that ego

wow..u've been in gazilion industries? u experience all of them? u've been to all the interview in gazilion industries & have seen ALL the UiTM try so hard to get a job? im so impressed..ya i know BS alarm triggered so loud in ur statement but for a purpose to please ur delusional prejudice mind i would say i am impressed..

owh, its not personal..its just im curious bout u..becos u spur pure lies about UiTM graduates it looks like u have some sort of grudge towards them..im just curious thats all

well i dun know if its me who cant handle the truth or is it becos u spur bullshit so much..im sorry ive been in real world dealing with real people too much that i forgot what its like to be in delusional
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oh u know the trigger! that's what i wanted to highlight in your previous post.

2nd, it meant i never saw other tried so hard to potrait themselves what they are, insinuating others may not have that need, sorry for overestimated your comprehension ability.

3rd, it's massive ironic over each of your post truly reflect the thorn in u
like the one u keep highlight what's your perception of the 'real world' perception, and then u call other delusional when dont agree. now u know how the rest felt bout u.

and 4th, that dude u quote i think is being sarcastic, lul

oh wai that lul is fake. but u are lul worthy.




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QUOTE(yandebunena @ Apr 22 2017, 11:04 PM)
oh u know the trigger! that's what i wanted to highlight in your previous post.

2nd, it meant i never saw other tried so hard to potrait themselves what they are, insinuating others may not have that need, sorry for overestimated your comprehension ability.

3rd, it's massive ironic over each of your post truly reflect the thorn in u
like the one u keep highlight what's your perception of the 'real world' perception, and then u call other delusional when dont agree. now u know how the rest felt bout u.

and 4th, that dude u quote i think is being sarcastic, lul

oh wai that lul is fake. but u are lul worthy.
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as i expected, u are triggered..kudos to me lulz

2nd; oh is that what u mean? OK, i try my best to not notice bout the 'gazilion industry' that u mention & try to pretend that i believe u telling a truth

3rd; oh my god..im afraid its u who have problem with comprehension..that fact is, u are in delusional when u said most UiTM graduates cant get any job aka jobless until now..if u can simply said that, then i also can simply said UTAR graduates mostly end up selling DVDs or become 'gores & menang' scammers..why? becos u made claim without any facts..yes there is UiTM graduates that sucks durinh interview, but does it reflect on most UiTM graduates? among 25k-26k UiTM graduates each year, how many actually failed in job interview? if u say most of it, then it shud be 70% to 80% from the total graduates..can u prove it with hard evidence % of successful UiTM graduates vs % of jobless UiTM graduates? do u have official statistic of UiTM graduates employed vs jobless?

now i know how the rest felt bout me? does pipu in /k/=the rest pipu in real world?

pipu like u are terrible u know..u guys always in delusional thinking that u=the rest of pipu, what u guys said=what the rest of pipu said...i can bet that u also must be a pakatun fag becos pakatun love to think that their view=whole rakyat view & their voice=whole rakyat voice..terribly in delusional

4th; yes, hes being sarcastic & im replying seriously to him..please believe that

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Apr 23 2017, 12:01 AM)
as i expected, u are triggered..kudos to me lulz

2nd; oh is that what u mean? OK, i try my best to not notice bout the 'gazilion industry' that u mention & try to pretend that i believe u telling a truth

3rd; oh my god..im afraid its u who have problem with comprehension..that fact is, u are in delusional when u said most UiTM graduates cant get any job aka jobless until now..if u can simply said that, then i also can simply said UTAR graduates mostly end up selling DVDs or become 'gores & menang' scammers..why? becos u made claim without any facts..yes there is UiTM graduates that sucks durinh interview, but does it reflect on most UiTM graduates? among 25k-26k UiTM graduates each year, how many actually failed in job interview? if u say most of it, then it shud be 70% to 80% from the total graduates..can u prove it with hard evidence % of successful UiTM graduates vs % of jobless UiTM graduates?

4th; yes, hes being sarcastic & im replying seriously to him..please believe that
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why u keep lulz and then u call other lul triggered, now this is lul.

check back your post 122, u are the 1 that intro this delusional game, where's your fact/proof ?

why such hypocrite

just 1 question, are u uitm graduate?



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QUOTE(keown83 @ Apr 23 2017, 12:01 AM)
as i expected, u are triggered..kudos to me lulz

2nd; oh is that what u mean? OK, i try my best to not notice bout the 'gazilion industry' that u mention & try to pretend that i believe u telling a truth

3rd; oh my god..im afraid its u who have problem with comprehension..that fact is, u are in delusional when u said most UiTM graduates cant get any job aka jobless until now..if u can simply said that, then i also can simply said UTAR graduates mostly end up selling DVDs or become 'gores & menang' scammers..why? becos u made claim without any facts..yes there is UiTM graduates that sucks durinh interview, but does it reflect on most UiTM graduates? among 25k-26k UiTM graduates each year, how many actually failed in job interview? if u say most of it, then it shud be 70% to 80% from the total graduates..can u prove it with hard evidence % of successful UiTM graduates vs % of jobless UiTM graduates? do u have official statistic of UiTM graduates employed vs jobless?

now i know how the rest felt bout me? does pipu in /k/=the rest pipu in real world?

pipu like u are terrible u know..u guys always in delusional thinking that u=the rest of pipu, what u guys said=what the rest of pipu said...i can bet that u also must be a pakatun fag becos pakatun love to think that their view=whole rakyat view & their voice=whole rakyat voice..terribly in delusional

4th; yes, hes being sarcastic & im replying seriously to him..please believe that
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wow, edit post again. must be vibrating whole time.

do u read back what u post, the irony is so big it's painful to see.
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QUOTE(yandebunena @ Apr 23 2017, 12:14 AM)
why u keep lulz and then u call other lul triggered, now this is lul.

check back your post 122, u are the 1 that intro this delusional game, where's your fact/proof ?

why such hypocrite

just 1 question, are u uitm graduate?
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yes..u are delusional..please prove u are not delusional by providing evidence that most UiTM graduates cant get a job as u claimed before..do u have an official statistics of % UiTM employed graduates vs % jobless UiTM graduates?

owh i forgot..im not UiTM product..just that i felt its unfair to generalize UiTM graduates just becos u hate them..experience has thought me that they are not that bad & some even awesome than other graduates

yes i editted my comment again..i have new idea to put in, its not a crime

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yes..u are delusional..please prove u are not delusional by providing evidence that most UiTM graduates cant get a job as u claimed before..do u have an official statistics of % UiTM employed graduates vs % jobless UiTM graduates?
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is that yes was answering my question?
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QUOTE(yandebunena @ Apr 23 2017, 12:16 AM)
wow, edit post again. must be vibrating whole time.

do u read back what u post, the irony is so big it's painful to see.
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im replying using a hp & my finger is big..so many typo i have to editted it..& got some new idea along the way also..is that a crime?

please save that conclusion becos u still havent provide hard evidence that most UiTM graduates failed to get a job

im still waiting
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is that yes was answering my question?
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why u avoiding my question?
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why u avoiding my question?
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u are the one that avoid
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u are the one that avoid
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u havent answer my question

Where is the evidence?
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u havent answer my question

Where is the evidence?
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u havent answer my question

Where is the evidence?
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u havent answer my question

Where is the evidence?
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omg..am i talking to a little kid?

my question is simple..where is the evidence that most UiTM graduates failed to get a job? show me the statistics, % of employed vs % of unemployed

can u answer this?
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I have hired someone from this institusi before but she was an experienced professional... so called experience la.. immediately ended her contract and did not offered permanent to her.

don't want to elaborate further to avoid bashing. but i'd avoid resume with this keyword. ironically my best fren is from there, so let's just say they are good being a friend and not good as employee.
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>UITM graduates still pretty much better than some public uni and most private uni out there.

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if u cant get 1st class in Uitm 14thfloor that way --->
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It's pretty difficult bro. In my class, only 2 students currently have 1st class cgpa.
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Apr 22 2017, 09:36 PM)
LEL

was that fact coming out from ur anus? its really hilarious as its trully contradict the real situation in this real world

ya yaa yaa i know u guys love to claim sumthing thats not there

http://www.webometrics.info/en/Asia/Malaysia%20

Malaysia Ranking;

UiTM = 7
UTAR = 17

look at how 'failure' UiTM graduates are;

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btw, whats ur paycheck? is ur paycheck & ur job better than this UiTM graduates above? can u share u 'superiority' over this 'failure' UiTM? i bet ur paycheck must be much better than them that u looked down on them so much
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K/tards here not looking for fact. They just good in spreading lies & spinning every words like snake.
This kind of losers dont have any value in society. Such a cancer.
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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ Apr 23 2017, 01:24 AM)
Whatever you say

Good luck finding a job when you graduate lol
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I got a job 1 months after i finished the study, already worked for many years & still happy with it smile.gif . Thanks for your concern anyway "loser" lol. Keep butthurting your hole and lying. Thats the best you can do.
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QUOTE(-cmi- @ Apr 23 2017, 01:32 AM)
I got a job 1 months after i finished the study, already worked for many years & still happy with it smile.gif . Thanks for your concern anyway "loser" lol. Keep butthurting your hole and lying. Thats the best you can do.
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lel seems like you dunno who I am

Cincailah what you wanna call me laugh.gif
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lel seems like you dunno who I am

Cincailah what you wanna call me laugh.gif
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Dont care who you are. Your level of mentality is just full of shit.
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Uitm grads are bloody incompetent! Company hired 3 graduated from uitm last year. Within a year they got fired. HR came up with an unspoken rule to not hire from uitm anymore.
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Rempit university memang macamtu
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QUOTE(teongpeng @ Apr 22 2017, 09:06 PM)
Failing at English may not be a measure of intelligence, but it sure as hell is a measure of attitude.

English is an international language and is valuable for reaearch. And u want to compare that to bahasa rempit?
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Nah, to them it is not important. My Chinese speaking classmate can't even pronounce 'pearl'
Correct her, she said it's not important cause we r in Msia. Told here it's international language. Chinese more important....

P.s me no rasis me Cina too but banana type
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Didn't know /k has so many uitm supporter, lol..

Uitm could be the most lenient university in malaysia. I still remember my friend who failed so much in matriculation and yet uitm offered him actuarial science...

Lol!
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Apr 22 2017, 10:19 PM)
no no

they are a failure, according to /k/

salary for o&g engineer is damn cheap compare to all /k/ here u know

/k/ here especially those who looked down on UiTM graduates all income RM20k & above..all these O&G engineer graduated from UiTM is far inferior & salary far cheaper than pipu in /k/ ya know
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Those ppl whose picture you shown are probably a success...but they do not represent the majority of the uni. Can u understand this? Do u understand percentages?
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Dont know much about that uni...
Just have a close friend last time, graduated from there with cgpa 3.8 in mass comm but then after that works in retail, and then works as a student affair officer, dunno why he just doesnt work in his related field..
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QUOTE(teongpeng @ Apr 23 2017, 06:44 AM)
Those ppl whose picture you shown are probably a success...but they do not represent the majority of the uni. Can u understand this? Do u understand percentages?
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no i dun understand

can u show me the percentage? can u prove that they do not represent majority of the uni? can u share the official statistics % of employed UiTM graduates vs % of jobless UiTM graduates?

come2 show me the evidence
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QUOTE(ju146 @ Apr 23 2017, 02:38 AM)
Didn't know /k has so many uitm supporter, lol..

Uitm could be the most lenient university in malaysia. I still remember my friend who failed so much in matriculation and yet uitm offered him actuarial science...

Lol!
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becos thats what UiTM is for..they work just like al azhar university..they trying their very best to not let any pipu to be left behind from higher education except those who already choose not to be in higher education

yes they can ditch out half of their current course, stop low cert/diploma level & focus only on degree & above..if they did that, they have chances to be on par with uni like UM, UKM & suchs..but that will defeat the purpose of their existence any
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Apr 22 2017, 09:36 PM)
LEL

was that fact coming out from ur anus? its really hilarious as its trully contradict the real situation in this real world

ya yaa yaa i know u guys love to claim sumthing thats not there

http://www.webometrics.info/en/Asia/Malaysia%20

Malaysia Ranking;

UiTM = 7
UTAR = 17

look at how 'failure' UiTM graduates are;

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


btw, whats ur paycheck? is ur paycheck & ur job better than this UiTM graduates above? can u share u 'superiority' over this 'failure' UiTM? i bet ur paycheck must be much better than them that u looked down on them so much
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Been with ytl for few years never seen such title nor the person
😂😂
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QUOTE(Ibrahimovic @ Apr 22 2017, 01:44 PM)
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QUOTE(Mike3 @ Apr 23 2017, 07:50 AM)
Been with ytl for few years never seen such title nor the person
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u also in ytl cement befur?
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u also in ytl cement befur?
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QUOTE(beeMay @ Apr 23 2017, 06:58 AM)
Dont know much about that uni...
Just have a close friend last time, graduated from there with cgpa 3.8 in mass comm but then after that works in retail, and then works as a student affair officer, dunno why he just doesnt work in his related field..
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Fyi, I was working in this mall management company before.

Every year there are many UTAR students will doing internship in my company.

They took Public Relation course. But most of them end up working in Customer Service, Sales, Marketing, and some of them in retail.

Job market nowadays is not huge like it use to be. Unleaa u took those professional course like Accounting, then u have confidence to get a job related to your field.

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QUOTE(xpole @ Apr 23 2017, 08:40 AM)
Fyi, I was working in this mall management company before.

Every year there are many UTAR students will doing internship in my company.

They took Public Relation course. But most of them end up working in Customer Service, Sales, Marketing, and some of them in retail.

Job market nowadays is not huge like it use to be. Unleaa u took those professional course like Accounting, then u have confidence to get a job related to your field.
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But then why your company dont offer a permanent job for them? I suppose their performance is good?

Also I think CS, sales n marketing still related to their field..retail also related but retail maybe they wanna climb from the bottom, then from retail become supervisor, supervisor then become manager..idk, maaybee?

Yeaah it is, I feel it everywhere. Many that i know cant get job, even in professional field..its so difficult, even some masters with years of exp are willing to lowball and take fresh grad job with fresh grad salary..
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QUOTE(beeMay @ Apr 23 2017, 09:10 AM)
But then why your company dont offer a permanent job for them? I suppose their performance is good?

Also I think CS, sales n marketing still related to their field..retail also related but retail maybe they wanna climb from the bottom, then from retail become supervisor, supervisor then become manager..idk, maaybee?

Yeaah it is, I feel it everywhere. Many that i know cant get job, even in professional field..its so difficult, even some masters with years of exp are willing to lowball and take fresh grad job with fresh grad salary..
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Our company offer permanent position. Only some of them want take it.
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QUOTE(xpole @ Apr 23 2017, 09:17 AM)
Our company offer permanent position. Only some of them want take it.
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Haaa..why is that..dont they want to secure a career?
Or is your comp a chinaman comp?
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QUOTE(beeMay @ Apr 23 2017, 09:24 AM)
Haaa..why is that..dont they want to secure a career?
Or is your comp a chinaman comp?
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starting salary RM1.9k. I think that's the main reason some of them refuse to take it.


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Wah...
Less than 24 hours, the posts are already 10 pages. I wonder how many pages this topic will end up...
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starting salary RM1.9k. I think that's the main reason some of them refuse to take it.
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Cheehh..start up company kah?
Usually uni students manyak gossip one, if their salary so low, most friends will make fun of them sad.gif even internship must have high salary, if low or no salary, they will malu cause gossip spread so fast hahaha
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Ok la they bit stupid some of them, but other grads also a bit stupid here and there.

But generally speaking, due to external and internal factors that affecting quality of UiTM grads, I do have to admit their product mostly average at best.
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Sebenarnya punggung sakit sebab cukai masuk uitm kan?
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Looking at this thread, I can make summary that UiTM grads in general are looked down upon. However, there are many quality grad. But due to their policy of giving chances for everybody, there are many misses too

On my case, I think I'm harsh to that doctor. I don't really know much about the case. Maybe both are right. I'm not a doctor. Looking at comments their medical grad do quite well in competition smile.gif

I just hope in future they can accept non-Bumi like Matrik. 10% but it goes a long way for integration. Even KJ said that right?
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QUOTE(-cmi- @ Apr 23 2017, 01:58 AM)
Dont care who you are. Your level of mentality is just full of shit.
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How to know which doctor UM and UITM laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Strike @ Apr 23 2017, 11:28 AM)
How to know which doctor UM and UITM laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Ibrahimovic @ Apr 22 2017, 01:44 PM)
No I was suspected with dengue. So i inside the room waiting for nurse. I talk to nurse about the doctor who both look young. She said the young lady from UiTM, the guy from UM.

The UiTM aqeks quite pretty, the guy look nerdy typical from UM laugh.gif
Dont know. The old guy was push with his wheelchair to the red zone. I think there should be MO. So at least got escalation rather than discharge. Both HO. Dont expect anything except be a safe doctor maa
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sofya dyana uitm grad.. u see la..
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Nothing to see here.
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Lol nurse said

If nurse butthurt um doctor and putar halim

How


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where?
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HQ u work there before?
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QUOTE(ipohmali70 @ Apr 22 2017, 08:08 PM)
Sighhhhhh..... loooooong story.

To be clear, these were all interns, not grads.

Typically they serve for 7 months.

If they are unable to behave properly as interns, what more can you say when they graduate?
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Wow, what field? Guess they are not sure what they are doing, lol
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QUOTE(beeMay @ Apr 23 2017, 09:43 AM)
Cheehh..start up company kah?
Usually uni students manyak gossip one, if their salary so low, most friends will make fun of them sad.gif even internship must have high salary, if low or no salary, they will malu cause gossip spread so fast hahaha
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Cannot stand this mentality, but I suppose it's just normal IRL. I understand that one would want to make enough for daily life, but why go around like peacocks strutting around showing off money? That's why people go around like Qu Puteh or that D'Herbs guy fanning themselves with ringgit bills. That seems to gain people's respect in our current culture.

So what if they someone doesn't make a lot but they're happy? Or they're just starting out? Or they understand that money is a means but not the ultimate goal?

You would think that with higher education, the mentality of the person would be of a higher level as well. Also, I have met so many "graduates" nowadays that can't even figure out simple problems (graduates from all universities, not just a particular one)

Are those actually "friends" btw? Gossip like desperate housewives? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Mike3 @ Apr 23 2017, 02:13 PM)
HQ u work there before?
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nope..but my relative works in ytl at the bukit berapit quary there..u hq in kl ka? u know every engineer & manager who office at the once perak hanjoong quarry?
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Apr 23 2017, 02:29 PM)
nope..but my relative works in ytl at the bukit berapit quary there..u hq in kl ka? u know every engineer & manager who office at the once perak hanjoong quarry?
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But got travel to perak also. I know their GM for quarry. If not mistaken there is only one more staff under the GM for quarry. The rest are subconscious.
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QUOTE(Messune @ Apr 23 2017, 02:27 PM)
Cannot stand this mentality, but I suppose it's just normal IRL. I understand that one would want to make enough for daily life, but why go around like peacocks strutting around showing off money? That's why people go around like Qu Puteh or that D'Herbs guy fanning themselves with ringgit bills. That seems to gain people's respect in our current culture.

So what if they someone doesn't make a lot but they're happy? Or they're just starting out? Or they understand that money is a means but not the ultimate goal?

You would think that with higher education, the mentality of the person would be of a higher level as well. Also, I have met so many "graduates" nowadays that can't even figure out simple problems (graduates from all universities, not just a particular one)

Are those actually "friends" btw? Gossip like desperate housewives?  laugh.gif
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Actually its true. I feel like they should abandon the high school mentality but in reality, it still exist.

I dont get gossiped much, only that time when I was barred from 2 subjects because of the attendance.
Those who dont get much salary in the intern we all know laah. Who gets the highest we also know from mouth to mouth! Hahaha

Not desperate housewives laa, guys also gossip. By guys, I mean the gay guys..hahahha
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QUOTE(ipohmali70 @ Apr 22 2017, 01:48 PM)
All grads make mistakes, not just UITM grads. 

I have my fair share of horror stories from local and foreign grads from all unis.

Some of my worst were from UTP.  Out of 6 I hired, 5 were major disappointments. 

In fact I never ever hire grads from UTP anymore.
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Which degree from UTP? I noticed most of them can speak really well and give good impression during interview. But, when it comes to actually walking the talk, it's a different story... Not all of course, but seems you got bad luck in hiring 5 bad apples there... :-)
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Which degree from UTP? I noticed most of them can speak really well and give good impression during interview. But, when it comes to actually walking the talk, it's a different story... Not all of course, but seems you got bad luck in hiring 5 bad apples there... :-)
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All of them in Chem Engrg.

Hired 6 (at different times), 5 of them absconded without completing their engrg internships. One of the abscondees is a handphone addict. She spent 90% of her time tapping away at her phone, even when at site. Had she not run away I would have sacked her for dereliction if duty.

However one did very well and went on to bag a one and only technical job in Petronas.

Perhaps these students came from privileged backgrounds and thus are unaccustomed to working under tough real life conditions.

I hired one student from UITM. His English was rather good despite hailing from Kelantan. However he made a lot of mistakes (who doesn't?) that resulted in money lost but what brought him down was that he blamed his mistakes on me. He developed extreme prejudice and poor attitude and ran away.

The other UITM young man was better. Speaks very good English. In fact he's more comfortable in English than in Malay. He finished his internship (I'd rate him a B in performance) but as a JPA scholar have to return to govt service.

I was invited and recently gave a lecture in UITM and I believe UITM has many talents but like any other universities graduates have to grow up and learn to take up responsibilities and not run away at the slightest obstacle.



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Bad apples errwhere esp since commericialization of higher education. The bitterness comes from the fact that public u is so much cheaper than private u n yet learning the same things.
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QUOTE(beeMay @ Apr 23 2017, 09:43 AM)
Cheehh..start up company kah?
Usually uni students manyak gossip one, if their salary so low, most friends will make fun of them sad.gif even internship must have high salary, if low or no salary, they will malu cause gossip spread so fast hahaha
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Our company offer RM1.9k as starting salary because the job is not that hard. Customer service face to face (information counter at shopping mall). This is the only company that willing to pay high for this kind of job.

Other mall offer way below than that. I know other mall offer starting RM1.5k only.

They don't want to take it because not challenging enough for them I guess..


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QUOTE(xpole @ Apr 23 2017, 08:06 PM)
Our company offer RM1.9k as starting salary because the job is not that hard. Customer service face to face (information counter at shopping mall). This is the only company that willing to pay high for this kind of job.

Other mall offer way below than that. I know other mall offer starting RM1.5k only.

They don't want to take it because not challenging enough for them I guess..
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Probably the easiest job there is. I would take it rather than unemployed. Most of the time just watch hp only
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I'm not uitm graduate, and I can only speak for accounting.

I think uitm and public uni are the best place to do accounting. They can get MIA membership by just graduating degree, they can do internship at Big 4 (IIANM, got quota for local uni), thereafter usually after grad can easily secure job with them.

All that for dirt cheap fees. That's a great package really, fact.

Sure, bad apples happen everywhere, but it doesn't change the opportunity it presents.

IMHO, uitm is not really to blame for bad apples, uitm is just a place, an institution. It's up to grads' own motivation to become who they wanna be. The bad apple's issue is more towards generational problem, of how now they're becoming too pampered or disconnected. Can't fault uitm for that, it happens with grads from any uni.

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