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Details GeForce 8600 series surfaced, The Dx10 cards...
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TSeka1403
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 Mar 15 2007, 12:03 AM, updated 19y ago
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Details GeForce 8600 series surfacedThe specifications on the GeForce 8600GT and GeForce 8600 Ultra have been revealed with respective price points at an great $150 and $180 USD. When launched these will be the cheapest DirectX 10 compliant cards on the market. The prices are really competitive and will most likely drive the price of DX9 cards way down significantly. The launch date for these cards is about the same as for when ATI will launch R600, that is, around CeBIT at the second week of March. I do have some doubts about the validity of these specs as there is no valid source .. but if it's true (and granted it looks like it), including that photo of the XFX card .. that 8600 Ultra looks really nice. And that GT ... that looks like the sweet spot for a nice overclocking card for sure. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « http://www.guru3d.com/admin/imageview.php?image=9411 More info : http://www.guru3d.com/newsitem.php?id=4834
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sniper69
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Mar 15 2007, 12:06 AM
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 , it's brought up la dude... anyway... 8600 Ultra seems to be a good competitor to 7900GT/GTX? or even 7950GT/GX2? This post has been edited by sniper69: Mar 15 2007, 12:07 AM |
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jcliew
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Mar 15 2007, 12:09 AM
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As i know got 8600GT n 8600GTS n haven't heard of 8600 Ultra...  Also both 8600GT n 8600GTS is 128-bit interdace  |
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ghost321
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Mar 15 2007, 12:11 AM
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I have better news for you http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4775Looks Plain On The Outside But Lethal Inside NVIDIA DX10 offerings for the mainstream market are definitely not to be missed and we will be seeing them on display over at the CeBIT in 2 days time. NVIDIA is still right on schedule for G84 launch on April 17th thus beat ATi to deliver DX10 mainstream products. We took an early look on G84 in Feb and we saw some changes on the core clock when we revealed the specs earlier. Now, the final core clock of 8600 GTS is at 675MHz while 8600 GT is at 540MHz, both lowered from the earlier specs we have seen. The memory clock for 8600 GTS stood at 1GHz using 1ns 256MB GDDR3 memories while memory clock for 8600 GT stood at 700MHz using 1.4ns GDDR3 memories. GeForce 8600 GTS has 8 layers PCB based on P401 design kit while 8600 GT has 6 layers PCB based on P402 design kit. 8600 GTS requires an additional power with the TDP at ~71W while 8600 GT which doesn't requires external power is rated at ~43W TDP. As promised, we will provide you some glimpse on the performance of the upcoming GeForce 8600 GTS and 8600 GT graphics cards. On a Core 2 Extreme X6800 processor, GeForce 8600 GTS scored a pretty impressive 5,7xx pts in 3DMark06 which is slightly faster than the 7950GT while 8600 GT churned out 4,7xx pts in 3DMark06 overshadowing a 7900GS. It seems that a 128-bit memory interface is not stopping 8600 series from churning out some nice performance. |
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jcliew
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Mar 15 2007, 12:13 AM
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D specs stated in guru3d different from what posted in Vr-Zone... So which 1 we should refer to? |
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nonamekid
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Mar 15 2007, 12:14 AM
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QUOTE(ghost321 @ Mar 15 2007, 12:11 AM) I have better news for you http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4775Looks Plain On The Outside But Lethal Inside NVIDIA DX10 offerings for the mainstream market are definitely not to be missed and we will be seeing them on display over at the CeBIT in 2 days time. NVIDIA is still right on schedule for G84 launch on April 17th thus beat ATi to deliver DX10 mainstream products. We took an early look on G84 in Feb and we saw some changes on the core clock when we revealed the specs earlier. Now, the final core clock of 8600 GTS is at 675MHz while 8600 GT is at 540MHz, both lowered from the earlier specs we have seen. The memory clock for 8600 GTS stood at 1GHz using 1ns 256MB GDDR3 memories while memory clock for 8600 GT stood at 700MHz using 1.4ns GDDR3 memories. GeForce 8600 GTS has 8 layers PCB based on P401 design kit while 8600 GT has 6 layers PCB based on P402 design kit. 8600 GTS requires an additional power with the TDP at ~71W while 8600 GT which doesn't requires external power is rated at ~43W TDP. As promised, we will provide you some glimpse on the performance of the upcoming GeForce 8600 GTS and 8600 GT graphics cards. On a Core 2 Extreme X6800 processor, GeForce 8600 GTS scored a pretty impressive 5,7xx pts in 3DMark06 which is slightly faster than the 7950GT while 8600 GT churned out 4,7xx pts in 3DMark06 overshadowing a 7900GS. It seems that a 128-bit memory interface is not stopping 8600 series from churning out some nice performance. the 3d mark 06 is lower than wat i expecting..for 8600GTS i tot should be scoring around 6-7k..5700 izzit abit low for a new 8 series card? |
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TSeka1403
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Mar 15 2007, 12:17 AM
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Guru 3d:8600 ultra...haha
vr-zone:8600gt and 8600gts
weird do
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seanl
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Mar 15 2007, 12:18 AM
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why they abandon the black pcb???sianzzz.....
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sniper69
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Mar 15 2007, 12:22 AM
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yeah, there is 8600 Ultra  , seems like the fastest and highest in it's (8600 series) |
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asmly14
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Mar 15 2007, 10:29 AM
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Any estimated price?
The full power of DX10 is yet to be unleashed.
This post has been edited by asmly14: Mar 15 2007, 10:36 AM
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SUSMatrix
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Mar 15 2007, 10:42 AM
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Where is ATI/AMD R600??? Probably too busy fighting Intel Conroe now instead of Nvidia GPUs...sigh....
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sasaug
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Mar 15 2007, 11:06 AM
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Man...8600 Ultra price is equal to a 7900Gs...It is in my target now lol...cant wait...
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jcliew
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Mar 15 2007, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Mar 15 2007, 10:42 AM) Where is ATI/AMD R600??? Probably too busy fighting Intel Conroe now instead of Nvidia GPUs...sigh.... Maybe is AMD/ATI tactic to wait opponent cum out 1st then counter them back  |
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taxidoor
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Mar 15 2007, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(jcliew @ Mar 15 2007, 11:08 AM) Maybe is AMD/ATI tactic to wait opponent cum out 1st then counter them back i agree but the time was too long to give a knock back, they will lose alot of profit for lately selling mid range and entry lvl card. Market is not popurlar the change new hardware:P |
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victor_hoh
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Mar 15 2007, 11:44 AM
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I just hope that a normal 8600GT can be bought at around RM650 within 3 months, then I will be able to build my new rig with it, together with the reduced price E4300 Core2Duo
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billytong
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Mar 15 2007, 12:47 PM
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Regardless on what their spec is. I will be going ATi/AMD for my next GPU. I have been sticking with nvidia for quite sometime. I wanted to try ATi/AMD cards.
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ikanayam
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Mar 15 2007, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(jcliew @ Mar 14 2007, 10:08 PM) Maybe is AMD/ATI tactic to wait opponent cum out 1st then counter them back That strategy never works. Think about it properly and you'll see why. |
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taxidoor
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Mar 15 2007, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(ikanayam @ Mar 15 2007, 02:19 PM) That strategy never works. Think about it properly and you'll see why. think it in nice way is ok "counter bak" but if u think by other site they dun have anything to fight lor |
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Goliath764
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Mar 15 2007, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(ikanayam @ Mar 15 2007, 02:19 PM) That strategy never works. Think about it properly and you'll see why. Errr...I think la, do you mean that ppl already grab the GPU so if AMD/ATI counter back with their "better" GC not much ppl will buy it? |
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Najmods
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Mar 15 2007, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE(jcliew @ Mar 15 2007, 11:08 AM) Maybe is AMD/ATI tactic to wait opponent cum out 1st then counter them back No thats not it, name one game that REALLY require DX10 right now or name a game that needs more graphical power that no current card can handle About the 8600GTS, its looks like a good midrange cards. I will buy it when it comes out |
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sasaug
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Mar 15 2007, 09:02 PM
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Just like 7900GS vs 1950 pro....At last they tie up even time of release is different lol...
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TSeka1403
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Mar 15 2007, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(sasaug @ Mar 15 2007, 12:06 PM) Man...8600 Ultra price is equal to a 7900Gs...It is in my target now lol...cant wait... same price meh? |
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sasaug
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Mar 15 2007, 10:35 PM
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USD 180 = RM684
Galaxy 7900GS OC =RM680
ASUS 7900GS TOP = RM800
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sidewinderz
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Mar 16 2007, 01:34 PM
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hmm....issit me or does the card seem to be shorter than the 7900GS and the ati X1950 series...  |
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BurgerRI
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Mar 16 2007, 01:55 PM
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I wonder whats the performance like on the present Dx9 games when comparing these 8600's versus the 7900gtx's and etc....
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don^don
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Mar 16 2007, 02:05 PM
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how come this card seemed shorter?
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TSeka1403
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Mar 16 2007, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(don^don @ Mar 16 2007, 03:05 PM) how come this card seemed shorter? yea the card look shorter |
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jcliew
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Mar 16 2007, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(don^don @ Mar 16 2007, 02:05 PM) how come this card seemed shorter? U r comparing which card 2 which card??? It's usual higher end card longer!? |
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nik0ns
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Apr 19 2007, 09:23 PM
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does someone know about the "ultra' series of 8600??
it's kind of weird cos i read about it,but it's not in the market
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likito
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Apr 20 2007, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE(nik0ns @ Apr 19 2007, 09:23 PM) does someone know about the "ultra' series of 8600?? it's kind of weird cos i read about it,but it's not in the market no 8600 ultra ! but 8800ultra coming soon , beat out ati r600 |
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Ryo
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Apr 22 2007, 01:48 AM
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is anyone here using the 8600 series cards? how's the performance? thinking of getting one
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skylinegtr34rule4life
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Apr 22 2007, 12:25 PM
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8600gt is slightly better than 7600gs 8600gts is slightly better than 7600gt so 4 me i think its not worth it 4 now ATM  |
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afosz
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Apr 22 2007, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Apr 22 2007, 12:25 PM) 8600gt is slightly better than 7600gs 8600gts is slightly better than 7600gt so 4 me i think its not worth it 4 now ATM Slightly better? I thought 8600 may be better than or on par with 7800/7900, just like 6800 and 7600. Correct me if I'm wrong. That means that 8 series is the evolution of 7 series with DX10? Better get 8800 then  |
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soulfly
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Apr 22 2007, 01:43 PM
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revving towards 10,000 rpm
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QUOTE(BurgerRI @ Mar 16 2007, 01:55 PM) I wonder whats the performance like on the present Dx9 games when comparing these 8600's versus the 7900gtx's and etc.... 7-series is often better at DX9 games except when it involves HDR |
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riku2replica
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Apr 25 2007, 12:31 AM
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If that's the case, the link provide 8300, 8600,8800 series price... where's 8500?
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khizer982
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Apr 25 2007, 01:44 AM
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Just got 8600GTS for my brother's new C2D PC. As usual test drive the card first. On current games not that great. Just OK for me. It's good on Oblivion though. Still miles away in terms of performance compared to my 8800GTS. I think there will be another card between 8800GTS and 8600GTS. I think Nvidia is just milking the market as they are the only DX10 card makers currently. They are holding some cards until AMD make their move.
My opinion, if you have the previous generation cards, stick to them. Upgrade only to the 8800. The 8600 is not really a bad card. It is just a bit of a letdown since the 8800 are monsters.
This post has been edited by khizer982: Apr 25 2007, 01:52 AM
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ggoo
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Apr 25 2007, 05:41 PM
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i dont know weather its a typo or not.. try to check out thundermatch's priclist on thr 20 of april.. there is a 128 and 256 bit version for the 8600GT and GTS.. did nvidia launch the 256 bit version?? if they did.. this can be quite interesting...
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Silverhawk_shaun
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May 2 2007, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(likito @ Apr 20 2007, 07:42 PM) no 8600 ultra ! but 8800ultra coming soon , beat out ati r600 The ati's r 600 is already beaten by the six month old GTX.
Added on May 2, 2007, 9:12 pmQUOTE(khizer982 @ Apr 25 2007, 01:44 AM) Just got 8600GTS for my brother's new C2D PC. As usual test drive the card first. On current games not that great. Just OK for me. It's good on Oblivion though. Still miles away in terms of performance compared to my 8800GTS. I think there will be another card between 8800GTS and 8600GTS. I think Nvidia is just milking the market as they are the only DX10 card makers currently. They are holding some cards until AMD make their move. My opinion, if you have the previous generation cards, stick to them. Upgrade only to the 8800. The 8600 is not really a bad card. It is just a bit of a letdown since the 8800 are monsters. Quite true. The 8800gts 320mb really outperforms the 8600 gts This post has been edited by Silverhawk_shaun: May 2 2007, 09:12 PM |
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kmarc
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May 9 2007, 05:35 PM
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The future is here - Cryptocurrencies!
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Here's a comparison of midrange graphics cards (between 8800 GTS, 8600 GTS and X1950 pro) I must say, x1950 pro can still beat the 8600 GTS!! Of course, as in the review, it is not future-proof......  http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2127477,00.aspThis post has been edited by kmarc: May 9 2007, 05:35 PM |
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arjuna_mfna
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May 9 2007, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(likito @ Apr 20 2007, 07:42 PM) no 8600 ultra ! but 8800ultra coming soon , beat out ati r600 mabye current 8600gts represent romur 8600 ultra while ago... ann true it just hv 8800 ultra and it looks just a oc version of 8800gtx by few percentage... for real there no official beachmark ati r600 vs 8800 ultra yet, and mayne ati will pospond the launch of hd2900xtx, and the directly intro hd2950xtx in Q3... |
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hng
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May 9 2007, 09:34 PM
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mebe later they got 8700gts???
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Phoenixwunin
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May 10 2007, 12:24 AM
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seeing most of the post here really makes me think a lot on getting 8600GTS...
Seems like it is not worth it at all... and a little top-up can already get me a 8800GTS.. but the thing is even if I get my self an 8800GTS... with my current proc (AMD Athlon 3000+) it will only bottleneck the system =(
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ltw82
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May 10 2007, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(Phoenixwunin @ May 10 2007, 12:24 AM) seeing most of the post here really makes me think a lot on getting 8600GTS... Seems like it is not worth it at all... and a little top-up can already get me a 8800GTS.. but the thing is even if I get my self an 8800GTS... with my current proc (AMD Athlon 3000+) it will only bottleneck the system =( this really pop up in my mind too~~~ since myself also using single core athlon64... would it be drag down the performance of 8600gts...? |
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jeromeccm
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May 10 2007, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(ltw82 @ May 10 2007, 02:17 PM) this really pop up in my mind too~~~ since myself also using single core athlon64... would it be drag down the performance of 8600gts...? if choosing 8600GTS, might as well top up abit to get a 8800GTS 320MB RAM.. muh more worth the bucks... Anybody has comparison for 8600GT vs 6800GS ar? Thinking thinking already.... |
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ltw82
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May 10 2007, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(jeromeccm @ May 10 2007, 02:44 PM) if choosing 8600GTS, might as well top up abit to get a 8800GTS 320MB RAM.. muh more worth the bucks... Anybody has comparison for 8600GT vs 6800GS ar? Thinking thinking already.... no point getting 8800gts 320mb lah... pls take note i'm using single core oni... performance add into my system will be wasted... for new core2 or am2 x2 oni will look right with 8800gts... |
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jeromeccm
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May 10 2007, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(ltw82 @ May 10 2007, 02:50 PM) no point getting 8800gts 320mb lah... pls take note i'm using single core oni... performance add into my system will be wasted... for new core2 or am2 x2 oni will look right with 8800gts... hmmm kinda true also... the price between 8600GT and GTS is about RM300... do you think it is worth the performance.... I am confused also...  I am using a X24600 with 6800GS... i am thinking of 8600GT only... inDX9 game, 8600GT is comparable to 7600GT or 7900GS? |
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arjuna_mfna
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May 10 2007, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(jeromeccm @ May 10 2007, 02:58 PM) hmmm kinda true also... the price between 8600GT and GTS is about RM300... do you think it is worth the performance.... I am confused also... I am using a X24600 with 6800GS... i am thinking of 8600GT only... inDX9 game, 8600GT is comparable to 7600GT or 7900GS? 8600GT can be compare to 7900GS @ 7900GT... 8600GT isok for budget one, but if u planning for 8600GTS beter u directly co for 8800GTS 320MB since the price not much diff and it perform much2 better then 8600GTS |
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jeromeccm
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May 10 2007, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(arjuna_mfna @ May 10 2007, 03:01 PM) 8600GT can be compare to 7900GS @ 7900GT... 8600GT isok for budget one, but if u planning for 8600GTS beter u directly co for 8800GTS 320MB since the price not much diff and it perform much2 better then 8600GTS I agree with you.. The performance gap for 8600GT and GTS are not much but the price differ about RM300.. as for the 8600GTS and 8800GTS. price differ about RM300 also but performance almost double..... serious ar? the 8600GT can performe as good as 7900GS? What i look upon the 8Xseries is on the DX10 advantage and with 128-Bit Mem can run as fast as the 7900GS with 256-Bit... impressive... |
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ltw82
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May 10 2007, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(jeromeccm @ May 10 2007, 03:34 PM) I agree with you.. The performance gap for 8600GT and GTS are not much but the price differ about RM300.. as for the 8600GTS and 8800GTS. price differ about RM300 also but performance almost double..... serious ar? the 8600GT can performe as good as 7900GS? What i look upon the 8Xseries is on the DX10 advantage and with 128-Bit Mem can run as fast as the 7900GS with 256-Bit... impressive...  nolah... 7900gs still win in some aspect i think... but 8600gts is a clear win over 7900gs...  links provide by goldfries mod... http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2975&p=2http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2975&p=5 |
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arjuna_mfna
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May 10 2007, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(jeromeccm @ May 10 2007, 03:34 PM) I agree with you.. The performance gap for 8600GT and GTS are not much but the price differ about RM300.. as for the 8600GTS and 8800GTS. price differ about RM300 also but performance almost double..... serious ar? the 8600GT can performe as good as 7900GS? What i look upon the 8Xseries is on the DX10 advantage and with 128-Bit Mem can run as fast as the 7900GS with 256-Bit... impressive... it about same... u may refer here... http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/426/20/ |
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Phoenixwunin
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May 10 2007, 11:34 PM
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geez... really gives me a lot of headache... @jeromeccm Seems like we have the same issue in our head right now... I'm also a user of AMD Athlon 64 3000+ and a 6800GS. At first I am thinking of upgrading to 8600GTS because changing to Dual-Core will cost much more money... need a new mobo too.. and ofcourse... I need to change my RAM to DDR2 as well... that is really costly... but then seeing how the price between 8600GTS and 8800GTS doesn't differ that much (if taking into considertion the performance upgrade)... I'm already very reluctant to take 8600GTS. 8600GT.. I think is too low lar... Need to think carefully on this... |
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jeromeccm
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May 15 2007, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(Phoenixwunin @ May 10 2007, 11:34 PM) geez... really gives me a lot of headache... @jeromeccm Seems like we have the same issue in our head right now... I'm also a user of AMD Athlon 64 3000+ and a 6800GS. At first I am thinking of upgrading to 8600GTS because changing to Dual-Core will cost much more money... need a new mobo too.. and ofcourse... I need to change my RAM to DDR2 as well... that is really costly... but then seeing how the price between 8600GTS and 8800GTS doesn't differ that much (if taking into considertion the performance upgrade)... I'm already very reluctant to take 8600GTS. 8600GT.. I think is too low lar... Need to think carefully on this... I tink wait la... becuase the 8600GTS is just too expensive to take with respet to its performance.. Hopefully when ATI is out, the price will be more competition then they might start the price war. So by then 8600 ultra will be out... Kinda interested. I dont like the 8800GTS 320 becuase of the power hunger. Really looking forward for the 8600Ultra.. might ask my frien to buy the xfx for me in US. will see how..... |
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SUSdattebayo
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May 15 2007, 02:00 PM
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heard that 8600gts with 256 bit will be out someday, its better to wait for this rather than to get 8600gts with 128 bit.
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jeromeccm
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May 15 2007, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ May 15 2007, 02:00 PM) heard that 8600gts with 256 bit will be out someday, its better to wait for this rather than to get 8600gts with 128 bit. the 86GT is consier nice performer considerig at 128Bit... 8600Ultra will i think is 256Bit... got to see the benchies first then decide between ultra or 8800GTS320. |
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Zicron
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May 15 2007, 02:32 PM
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So Nvidia will lable the 8600 256-bit as 8600 Ultra? @Phoenixwunin Better change your proc if you want 8800, as my amd 3000+ also bottleneck when i using 7900GS  |
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ggoo
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May 15 2007, 03:32 PM
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so confirm there will be 8600ULTRA coming out soon??
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ltw82
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May 15 2007, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(Zicron @ May 15 2007, 02:32 PM) So Nvidia will lable the 8600 256-bit as 8600 Ultra? @Phoenixwunin Better change your proc if you want 8800, as my amd 3000+ also bottleneck when i using 7900GS like me bottleneck my 8600gt now... ehh.. u dint play oced meh...? |
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minghao
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May 15 2007, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(Phoenixwunin @ May 10 2007, 11:34 PM) geez... really gives me a lot of headache... @jeromeccm Seems like we have the same issue in our head right now... I'm also a user of AMD Athlon 64 3000+ and a 6800GS. At first I am thinking of upgrading to 8600GTS because changing to Dual-Core will cost much more money... need a new mobo too.. and ofcourse... I need to change my RAM to DDR2 as well... that is really costly... but then seeing how the price between 8600GTS and 8800GTS doesn't differ that much (if taking into considertion the performance upgrade)... I'm already very reluctant to take 8600GTS. 8600GT.. I think is too low lar... Need to think carefully on this... Guy,i saw u on many thread.Another thread said interested in 8800GTS,now interested in this.LOL..dunno wat u want...  |
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Zicron
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May 15 2007, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(ltw82 @ May 15 2007, 03:36 PM) like me bottleneck my 8600gt now... ehh.. u dint play oced meh...? OCed still same thing, change to teh amd 4000+ only can get the real score of 7900gs |
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May 15 2007, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(minghao @ May 15 2007, 03:38 PM) Guy,i saw u on many thread.Another thread said interested in 8800GTS,now interested in this.LOL..dunno wat u want... somethings it is very hard to deside since there is so many cards around. It all falls back to our suitability ler... money, power, speed, games, heat... bla bla bla... Thats why this forum can help to clear out most people confusion.... |
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