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post Mar 14 2007, 05:05 PM

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Me and a few friends has been paying WoW with CC since Feb 2005.

No problems found. We did hear cases where Malaysian player's accounts gets banned due the same reason, but later we found that it was because he used a fake name and fake address.
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post Mar 14 2007, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Mar 14 2007, 05:05 PM)
Me and a few friends has been paying WoW with CC since Feb 2005.

No problems found. We did hear cases where Malaysian player's accounts gets banned due the same reason, but later we found that it was because he used a fake name and fake address.
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Sir how now?
I changed back address to Malaysia or Singapore.
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post Mar 14 2007, 05:09 PM

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malaysia la

change this n that, later kena ban

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post Mar 14 2007, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(joblessnoob @ Mar 14 2007, 05:07 PM)
Sir how now?
I changed back address to Malaysia or Singapore.
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Just set it to your real address and location
be honest, and they MIGHT let you off.

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post Mar 14 2007, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Mar 14 2007, 05:10 PM)
Just set it to your real address and location
be honest, and they MIGHT let you off.
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put 2 address can?
alt address put Malaysia.
Main put SG?

I dont want to get ban, my 1st account already ban.
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post Mar 14 2007, 05:18 PM

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i started wow on dec 04 when wow launched, seem like nothing happened to me yet, are you playing in cafe? there might be some reason they trace from account and IP since malaysia IP is dynamic except certain package is static,i put all the registered detail under my personal detail,
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QUOTE(myremi @ Mar 14 2007, 04:10 PM)
I think you might have to be more aggressive (but be diplomatic about it). They say that you are in violation of their Terms of Usage.

If you answer yes to any of these, they will ban that account :

1. Access to your account e.g. sharing passwords. Blizzard doesn't like this at all, even if you are sharing passwords with family.
2. Sell Gold
3. Buy Gold. If they catch a gold farmer, they will trace all transactions back to the customer who bought the gold and ban gold buyers too.
4. Selling a lot of stuff for RL money. They can't prove that the financial transaction has taken place but if there's a lot of transferring between different characters, they will ban first and wait for answers later. If transferring between alts or accounts that are under the same name, they shouldn't be banning you.
This seems to be the explaination from them. How did you create the account and did you use the WoW Launcher or bypass that? If you bypass the Launcher, they will suspect that you are hacking, etc. and would ban you.

If you did not violate the Terms of Usage, go and defend your case but make it a strong one. Not offensive or rude as that will get you nowhere. But state your case clearly and reitierate it. Also, ask them for specific details pertaining to the ban.
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Come on, i am a level 15 hunter. how rich can i be? trying to sell 1G for RM$0.30 and risk my 19.90USD subscription? What am I stupid or insane?

Well, I have contacted asiasoft WoW customer support and they are looking into this matter seriously.

The email reply i got from blizzard is very SPECIFIC. it doesnt point to any other abuses or violation of TOU. It just say simply meaning I am a Malaysian. You are not allowed here. We welcome United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, or Singapore only, period. Thats what i got for my USD19.90.

Posting this thread as a warning to ALL you guys out there to watch out and becareful unless Asiasoft has a reply from Blizzard official authority. If not, everything is still a myth. The account admin are working in black box operation. We never know what they will do, and all they can do is CLOSE account! they are best at that! Good Luck everyone.
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post Mar 14 2007, 05:29 PM

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Sorry to hear that Dennis.
Im also same case as you, this is my 5th or 6th day after paying with a CC.
And i just changed my address to Singapore, hopefully that helps. And put alt address as my current address in Malaysia.

Luckily i manage to churn $150g so far and just sold em off for $20 usd after hearing your story.
If Asiasoft reply you, pls post here immediately so that I can changed back my address.
Thank you.
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post Mar 14 2007, 05:45 PM

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sell gold confirm ban, GTFO joblessnoob. hell, ur name is so friggin fittin.
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post Mar 14 2007, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 14 2007, 05:45 PM)
sell gold confirm ban, GTFO joblessnoob. hell, ur name is so friggin fittin.
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i only sell those just incase i got ban for being Malaysian, so that i wont lose out the cd key money.
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post Mar 14 2007, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(dennistan07 @ Mar 14 2007, 05:24 PM)
Come on, i am a level 15 hunter. how rich can i be? trying to sell 1G for RM$0.30 and risk my 19.90USD subscription? What am I stupid or insane?

Well, I have contacted asiasoft WoW customer support and they are looking into this matter seriously.

The email reply i got from blizzard is very SPECIFIC. it doesnt point to any other abuses or violation of TOU. It just say simply meaning I am a Malaysian. You are not allowed here. We welcome United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, or Singapore only, period. Thats what i got for my USD19.90.

Posting this thread as a warning to ALL you guys out there to watch out and becareful unless Asiasoft has a reply from Blizzard official authority. If not, everything is still a myth. The account admin are working in black box operation. We never know what they will do, and all they can do is CLOSE account! they are best at that! Good Luck everyone.
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There was one more thing I forgot to add : if your account was hacked into (by brute-forcing the password or keylogging) and there was suspicious activity, they would close it down. Although this wasn't mentioned at all in their email. Happened to a friend of mine that

But you're right. I couldn't tell which part of your posting was your message and which part of it was from Blizzard. So I didn't catch the bit about the ban of the account.

Disclaimer : I'm not a lawyer so my interpretation may not be accurate. Anything past this point would just be my opinion but not necessarily applicable in the legal sense. That one, you have to check with someone who is a lawyer lah.

After much digging, there are 2 parts to your problems :

1. Terms of Usage : To subscribe to WoW and play the game

I remember back in January 07 that players outside of those countries were concerned about the ToU. This was the previous ToU before the Jan 11, 2007 revision (from a blog posting I put up awhile back) :

4. Limitations on Your Use of the Service.

A. You may only access the Service from within the territorial boundaries of the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand or Singapore. Any access to your Account, whether by you or anyone else, from any location outside those countries is a breach of this Agreement.


After that, the ToU got changed so that Section 4A is no longer stating what it did above.

4.Limitations on Your Use of the Service.
A. Only Blizzard or its licensees have the right to host the Game. You may not host or provide matchmaking services for the Game, or intercept, emulate or redirect the proprietary communication protocols used by Blizzard in connection with the Program, regardless of the method used to do so. Such prohibited methods may include, but are not limited to, protocol emulation, reverse engineering, modifying the Program, adding unauthorized components to the Program, or using a packet sniffer while the Program is running.

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From the ToU, it seems to indicate that Blizzard does not have an issue with player from other countries. Therefore, as long as we abide by their rules, we can play their game. They will not ban us.

Conclusion : Malaysian accounts will not get banned if you follow their Terms of Usage, dated January 11, 2007 or the latest revision.


2. Free 10-day trial from online site (from the link that you posted)


From the link that you provided on where you got the 10-day trial, it looks like they have a right to ban the account. From what they mentioned, that free-trial signup is for those few countries.

For myself, I got the 10-day free trial from Fileplanet.com which didn't have this country restriction. I downloaded the game online and then inserted the trial key obtained from Fileplanet.com. On the 5th day, changed to permanent status and since June 06, my account is still fine.

Getting the trial keys looks to be harder than ever before. It could be that Blizzard are trying to curb the Gold Farmer's Advertisement ingame because they were created with trial accounts.

Anyway, you could try to plead with them to say that you have since converted to a permanent account with a valid CD key. They may look more favourably towards you but the ball is still in their court. They might not because you committed an offense first by obtaining a trial key that was not meant for ppl outside those 4 countries.

When you signed up for the trial keys, was there a notice stating that the trial keys are only for 4 countries? If it wasn't there yet, you could argue your case stating that you got the key before that notice went up. If it was already there and you went ahead, they should have beef up security to check for IPs outside those countries or the database they're referring too is so screwed up that it didn't detect your IP location.

If you had obtained the trial key via a friend (Recruit-a-Friend programme where players have 5 trial keys a month to give to friends) or the trial keys that comes with the retail game version, your account wouldn't have this issue. A lot of ppl have created accounts this way without any issues.

I hope that things do work out for you. Mind you, it might take a few days to a couple of weeks before you hear a reply. I had a friend whose account got hacked, his items reinstated and then banned. Sigh. Eventually, they reinstated his account but it was a painful 1 month process for him. When I meant by aggressive, I didn't mean that you had to be rude. What I should have said was that your reply to them may not be convincing enough to convince them to reinstate your account. Comparing my friend's email and yours, he's is more stern but probably because he knows how to argue back (comes from tender negotiations ).


Added on March 14, 2007, 7:22 pmgg, a crit of text.

This post has been edited by myremi: Mar 14 2007, 07:22 PM
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post Mar 14 2007, 09:37 PM

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Half of my HK guildies are gone, 'cos Blizz banned them permanently, as Blizz associate HK as China.

according to 1 of my HK guildies, he said apparently from HK's game forum site, Blizz banned lotsa HK players in US server w/o giving any specific reasons. No matter how hard they wrote to blizz, polite, hostile, threaten w legal action, "are u being racist?", the reply is the same, telling them "F*** OFF NOOB! Stop writing to us! We r not giving u ur a/c back!" in a nice way.

in 1 incident, a HK player was banned like dennistan07, he was like Lv 10 paladin. shocking.gif

for that, Blizz really buffed the HK players with more "RAGE". vmad.gif

/spit blizz
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QUOTE(penman @ Mar 14 2007, 09:37 PM)
Half of my HK guildies are gone, 'cos Blizz banned them permanently, as Blizz associate HK as China.

according to 1 of my HK guildies, he said apparently from HK's game forum site, Blizz banned lotsa HK players in US server w/o giving any specific reasons. No matter how hard they wrote to blizz, polite, hostile, threaten w legal action, "are u being racist?", the reply is the same, telling them "F*** OFF NOOB! Stop writing to us! We r not giving u ur a/c back!" in a nice way.

in 1 incident, a HK player was banned like dennistan07, he was like Lv 10 paladin.  shocking.gif

for that, Blizz really buffed the HK players with more "RAGE".  vmad.gif

/spit blizz
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Its true, I had Hong Kong friends being banned too, they are all now in Taiwan servers. I am at taiwan server too. Went to US for the taste and first hand look of TBC. End up bloodshit and lots of money cheated.


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post Mar 14 2007, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(dennistan07 @ Mar 14 2007, 10:15 PM)
Its true, I had Hong Kong friends being banned too, they are all now in Taiwan servers. I am at taiwan server too. Went to US for the taste and first hand look of TBC. End up bloodshit and lots of money cheated.
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ya, some of them went to play in Taiwan server.

seriously, nothing you can do.

sorry that happen to u. sad.gif
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I think he got banned becoz the package (where u download and create account and insert ur credit card one) is only for the countries mentioned.. Singapore, those.. etc. But if u buy a hard copy and install it the old and traditional way u don't get banned..
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post Mar 15 2007, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(joblessnoob @ Mar 14 2007, 05:54 PM)
i only sell those just incase i got ban for being Malaysian, so that i wont lose out the cd key money.
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continue to dig your own grave deeper... still dont get it? let me highlight:

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i only sell

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post Mar 15 2007, 02:56 AM

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i only transfer 100+ gold to the buyer, how they can track me so fast.

i got banned again, now im not going to sell gold to lvl 1 pickup char by mail anymore.

Dammit
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QUOTE(joblessnoob @ Mar 15 2007, 03:56 AM)
i only transfer 100+ gold to the buyer, how they can track me so fast.

i got banned again, now im not going to sell gold to lvl 1 pickup char by mail anymore.

Dammit
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Okay, first of all, i would like to ask you a very simple question, i read through all post in this topic and i discovered that you keep repeating that you sold gold and shits to a noob and you feel very proud of it? Whats wrong with you anyway? Stop being a nerd in WoW and get lost, if you're being ban again i congrats you and dont come back thanks!
I'm not flamming you i'm just telling the truth out.
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good riddance, hope you stay banned even on your future accounts
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post Mar 15 2007, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(joblessnoob @ Mar 15 2007, 02:56 AM)
i only transfer 100+ gold to the buyer, how they can track me so fast.

i got banned again, now im not going to sell gold to lvl 1 pickup char by mail anymore.

Dammit
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What, did you expect otherwise? You helped get your friend's account banned, now you help your own account get banned. rclxms.gif

You're very amusing to watch though

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