taking 10 seconds to restart for ECO idle is not what that is being intended, imagine you stop at traffic light and it turns green and your car taking 10 seconds to restarts.

obviously they are bluffing

i got the same answer from sc fellow when i ask them why new P2 models are having paint colour underbody as oppose to old tarred ones. SC does sell the tar sealant as well, but i didn't ask how much it is. As my dad's alza is tarred.

tukar body kit also void warranty. crazy

alignment maybe?

it takes time to learn and cost to implement good NVH measure, proton sucked in Saga BLM NVH and they are doing huge improvement in NVH in their new saga VVT, honestly it doesn't come with zero cost though, by adding insulation and padding here and there, thats money.

If you really not satisfied with the NVH level, like the thread above, you maybe consider do it on your own.

eco idle is a nice feature but the ROI of it is quite questionable, not sure whether the fuel saving by start stop able to offset the cost delta of the start stop battery that cost RM5xx vs ordinary battery that cost only RM2xx?

regen braking doesn't work on ordinary batteries as it will kill the battery really fast, hence only bezza advance has the regen braking with the "start stop battery".
unlike mazda i Eloop that employ high tech stuffs, bezza start stop strategy is pretty simple, a deep charge battery, with smart alternator, and a tandem drive starter ( i don't know what's this though, just know its a starter).

The regenerative braking uses engine power to pull the alternator to generate electricity to charge the battery whenever you lift off the throttle, when the battery is discharged slightly, the alternator won't engage during normal driving. Regen braking works best if you have a tractor battery like those on hybrids. it wasn't put to full use of it on normal car like bezza.

try check out year 2008 toyota passo 1NR-FE dual vvti 1.33 engine with start stop, that's the one employed on bezza albeit toyota version of engine coding.

yea bro.... the pain point for bezza advance is the battery that cost RM500++, yet the life span is still like ordinary battery except it can last high draw situation.
If i being honest, the start stop thing is like a fancy feature, in the end you pay addtional RM300 (give or take) for the theoretical additional 1km per liter (i'm comparing bezza advance vs non advance), and bear in mind, start stop only works when certain criteria is being met, if you always on the run, the potential saving you going to get will be on the regen braking but not start stop, and for that it defeat the purpose by 50% for the regen braking.

well agreed.

i went to showroom and i ask the SA. was being told it's like 500+, i saja ask as i know such battery doesn't come cheap.

i personally feel like it "should be" below RM500, given that Mazda 2 start stop battery that is selling sub RM500, thats 65AH battery (non SC), so.... "maybe" perodua sc will be selling the battery at RM500-600 range, (normal la, sc price wont be lower than outside ma), bezza battery is just a 40AH battery so theoretically it wont be more expensive than mazda battery. I wonder whether bezza battery bay can fit mazda start stop battery or not?

same price with premium x battery means it is the same battery then. unless premium x is using start stop battery as well. The battery on my father's alza already costing RM210 and that's ordinary battery. I wonder whether the sc giving the answer we want or not.

thanks for the answer. if able to get outside then it should be lower than that i believe. sooner or later will have i think

able to solve the suspension noise after sc visit?

like it or not, the battery will need to be start stop battery, use normal battery and it will fail in short term. costing you more than the start stop battery. eco idle usually wont activate in hot sunny day as it is hot. night time you might get a better chance that it activates longer.

you sure your friend change to this battery? the CCA and AH is so high. If not mistaken the system need to re-enter some value so that the electrical system able to recognize the battery capacity, thats what i know about smart charging system.

it is always hard to juggle between functionality, practicality and eye pleasing, i believe the "tonggek" in a certain extend helps in the aerodynamic of the car, remember that bezza achieves 0.286 Cd which is quite low for a production car marketed in Malaysia, i reckon Civic Hybrid 2005 Cd is 0.29. And bezza able to achieve lower than that.

one time 30ml, 10 times 300ml, that's 65cents worth of money, air kosong dapat dah.

maybe higher capacity battery able to make the car idle longer, thus even further maximizing the regenerative braking efficiency of it. i reckon the battery on bezza adv is like 40Ah ones. or maybe lesser than that. no sure whether any settings needed for higher capacity battery though. since it is start stop system and theoretically there should be some setting within.

is your normal braking a prolong ones? if yes, it might be due to warped disc rotor due to prolong braking thus overheated disc rotor. This is normal for 1st gen myvis, and might be happen to any cars with a thin disc rotor especially under prolong braking. I personally think that perodua disc rotors are quite thin though.

anyhow, just send it to sc and see what they says.