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 LYN Official Perodua Bezza Club V3

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post Jan 23 2018, 11:25 PM

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cakap aje, dalam cakap sampai engine swap pun boleh..... lol
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post Jan 29 2018, 09:11 PM

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any bezza x owners? Can do me a favor to check your alternator and let me know the model number? Bezza advance uses 27060-BZ310 that's all i know. And i wonder whether it is different from Bezza X since the alternator requires to support the idle stop functionality and the regenerative braking function.
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post Jan 30 2018, 09:31 AM

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bezza 1.0 should be good enough for daily commute for city drive. it maybe more challenging if you fully loaded and going up to genting highlands. it still able to get the job done with some high revs and it may not to your comfort. that's what i have in my mind.
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post Feb 6 2018, 04:23 PM

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probably the sound of aircond hissing
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(karim_effendy @ Feb 13 2018, 04:39 PM)
Guy. I think I need to share this.

Yesterday, my eco idle battery gave itself up! I just parked by the roadside, went to my daughter's school to pick her up, shut down the car for about 10 minutes only, and when I came back to the car, tried to start it but no good.
Just the gekgekgek trrrrrttt sound.

I take a look at my volt meter(its a mobile phone charger with car voltage display. brand is remax. quite good. can get it for RM35) My power is at 12.4v.  Should be good enough to start the car. But still can't start at all.
I've also monitored my volt during eco idle. my car will start when the volt is dropping below 12v. and during startup it will go down to 0.9v and up to 13.7v when running.

Ok back to the time I can't start the car. So I give a call to perodua assist and then the tow truck guy came and jump start my car. (response time is around 30 minutes. Good Job!) only one crank(actually one push start hehehe),
It came alive

Then I drove to my favorite service center to ask them to check on it. From the inspection, it was confirmed that my battery died already.  The warranty for the eco idle battery is only for 12months or 20,000km (it was stated in the manual!).
My mileage is already 27k so can kiss goodbye for a free replacement. The SC guys quoted me for RM480 for a new M42 idle start stop battery. But they says they can also install to me a cheaper NS40 perodua battery for RM195.  But eco idle will not work he says.  Since I'm poorfag, so I opted for the NS40.

Guess what, Eco idle still works but not as long as before. Around 10-30 second. Very annoying.

Few tips or sign that your battery will die soon.
1) Your eco idle is not working as frequent as before.  It takes sometimes before you get the green eco idle indicator again not like when you bought it new.
2) during startup, the eco idle light indicator will turn yellow and keeps flashing few times after startup.  its like a final sign. In happens to me for around 5 days before the battery die.
3) your milage is above 20k. mine gave way at 27k. quite good.
4) you can ask the pomen to check your battery during service. I got my 20k service at 23k. He warned me that my battery charge is low and please be ready. he says.

I think thats. All.  And also, I found out, you can always purchase NS40 at other shop for waaaay cheaper price than perodua.  But I scared to take the risk if any problem arise that will void my warranty.

also, one final thing, the battery M42 in the internet got 2 prices. 1) Yuasa Eco, selling RM385(carbattery.com.my 2) Varta. RM320(lelong.com.my)
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Question:
1. how old your car is? for perodua cars the battery usually dies within 2 years, usually like in 1.5 years range. It will be faster if you always driving short trips and in traffic jam.

Precaution:
1. you better switch off your eco idle after you install your NS40, it is just an ordinary battery that wasn't design for repetitive discharge and charging like the eco idle battery. It surely dies faster than an eco idle battery if you use it for eco idle. Some say within 2-4 months.

https://www.yuasa.co.uk/info/technical/star...cement-warning/

WHen you buying the replacement M42, make sure you buying correct Ah battery, if not mistaken Bezza advance battery is 40Ah type. take a lower Ah ones, it surely dies faster.

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post Feb 20 2018, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(androidj7 @ Feb 20 2018, 06:52 AM)
U neee to know bezza using aluminium block.. so doing grab uber using stock p2 eo. It will burn oil faster. Wear and tear also increasing so fast.. that why sound from engine is loud...thats my opinion
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i think aluminum block wasn't the thing to be blamed here.... as aluminum dissipates heat faster. Due to your driving job nature, it is recommended to have a periodic check on the oil level, as driving 500km a day usually consider heavy duty driving for an ordinary car.

Thinner oil flows faster in the engine, it lubricate the internal part of the engine and bring away the heat the engine generate along the way, driving like 500km per day is a lot of heat to be dispose and this creates burden to the oil (it gets burned away). one of the reason perodua recommends 0w-20 oil for bezza is due to the fuel economy performance of the engine, i think it should be allright to use 5w30 but i doubt 10w40 will be appropriate.
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post Feb 20 2018, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(jusbella @ Feb 20 2018, 01:12 PM)
So use Shell fully synthetic engine oil is good choice? Since Shell provided 12 years / 200,000km warranty.
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i personally see that as an eye candy, the warranty only have limited coverage and it is claimable if you able to prove that the oil fail to perform its duty. i personally don't think that there's someone able to claim on such warranty from shell. I would be interested to know if someone able to able.
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post Feb 22 2018, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(ucl_9339 @ Feb 22 2018, 04:07 PM)
How much to change the hydraulic engine mount ?
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so fast wanna change already meh?
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post Feb 23 2018, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(ucl_9339 @ Feb 23 2018, 08:21 AM)
Just want to know the cost beforehand. need to prepare for any eventuality.
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i see.... should be sub 1000 full set i think. and usually it dies like in the fifth year or so, i mean given the past experience i had on myvi.
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post Feb 23 2018, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(jtan.pdr @ Feb 23 2018, 04:02 PM)
What was the mileage?
Roughly..
Need to be prepared for this too..
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i cant be certain for bezza of course. but on myvi, it's like 5 years plus then the mounting slowly dies off, you will know it because your cabin will be getting noisy, and in some situation, the side mirror vibrates during idle. i think it is not very relevant to mileage but more to time based because the mounting material is rubber based. but of course drive more might speed up the aging process, imagine the engine bay heat during engine running vs always cool if your car is just a weekend pasar car. laugh.gif .


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post Feb 26 2018, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(jtan.pdr @ Feb 23 2018, 08:12 PM)
I see..
Thanks for the clarification.
And the bezza engine get surprisingly hot..
From my experience la..
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maybe due to higher compression ratio, imagine a 1300cc engine that have internal oil cooler jet build in (that use to cool down the piston skirt). i think the engine is running hotter than myvi's k3-ve.
do prepare the budget, no worries, you've got 5 years. laugh.gif
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post Mar 8 2018, 11:36 PM

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gasket drain plug is a must, terminal protector..... is to protect the terminal from oxidation.
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post Mar 13 2018, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(Le Fluff @ Mar 12 2018, 08:59 PM)
Update: Drove to work and it resolved itself, possibly an interference issue? All my doors were tight, hood, boot.
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battery problem maybe? confused.gif
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post Mar 14 2018, 07:51 PM

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is a cycle, consumer are sometimes investors, and investors pushing manufacturers for earnings, is a cycle
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post Mar 15 2018, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(jtan.pdr @ Mar 14 2018, 10:42 AM)
its suv cousins
its like our toyota rush or the daihatsu terios in indonesia.
alot different from the old kembara that we had that did high rpm for low kmh.
<a href='https://<link removed>/2017/11/23/new-2018-daihatsu-terios-makes-debut-in-indonesia/' target='_blank'>https://<link removed>/2017/11/23/new-2018-dai...t-in-indonesia/</a>
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the daihatsu terios in indonesia also have quite high ratio for final drive. if we really getting daihatsu terios rebadge (which is 50/50 possibility), don't so happy about low rpm high kmh. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 16 2018, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(Goodboy92 @ Mar 14 2018, 06:06 PM)
just seen from auto site said that bezza will have facelift this year

i think possible , new bumper , new headlight , esp across range , new smarttag reader etc

but as what i know from axia was bringing top spec thing down for lower spec , example headlight of axia. ( now all using projector headlamp )

not quite good to heard this , but i still want to share out so that those who plan to buy a bezza maybe should wait awhile more.
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if follow perodua 2.5 years facelift cycle, then bezza will only get FL next year. but perodua might FL bezza earlier than ordinary lifecycle in order to boost up the sales volume of perodua in totality. more over bezza is not tie to any daihatsu model so perodua can decide when they want to FL it. would like to see myvi nice features introduced into bezza as well
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post Mar 21 2018, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(jtan.pdr @ Mar 20 2018, 04:15 PM)
Atf fluid at 20k is ok in my opinion.
This is an auto after all and not a manual.
I did mine at the 10k interval.
Cos that's when there's the most metallic dust/filings but they only manage to just drain the fluid in the sump.
Better than nothing.
Spend some money now to not spend much more on repair bills later on.
I actually wanted to change enjin oil at the 5k interval but seeing that I only did 2k plus km at that interval, and the oil looked still newish  I just let it go..
I understand that money is hard to find, but looking as I might keep the car for kids to use, long term maintenance/longevity  requires short term spending.
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you have a very conscious mind on preventive maintenance, but 10k km on ATF seems to be a little too frequent. Unless you always pushing your transmission like going uphill or racing the gearbox. my father's alza also practicing 20k interval for the ATF, the reason of doing so is to prevent aging oil accumulating in the system, everytime we only able to drain 2.8l from the gearbox and there's still plenty of atf inside the system that we can't drain it.
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post Mar 22 2018, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(jtan.pdr @ Mar 22 2018, 04:58 AM)
Ah.. Yes that's the word.. Preventive.
My memory is failing me..
Words that I seldom use is fading away...
Thanks for making me recall!
And yes, the atf  could not be fully drained as that would have needed a full tyranny disassemble.
Don't get me wrong, i am only doing this for the 1st 5k km change. I will revert back to normal service intervals after this 1st change.
In my mind, I'm not very kind to the tyranny as I do row the box quite often..
Meaning I manually change gears, some times all the way to 2nd gear and force an acceleration..
And drag the engine sometimes till 5k rpm.
That's why my milage is at 11.5km/L
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i reckon bezza wasn't that rev happy due to the tuning is on the economy side, 1NR-VE engine itself is an engine that have a lot of potential but the tuning is a let down.
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post Mar 29 2018, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(Goodboy92 @ Mar 29 2018, 12:08 AM)
i was thinking also , but certain bigger car also have these problem.

i dont think so , it will increase the area of side wind . not sure thou because it will also reduce wind go under .

but i think will not affect much with any changes , it was the design of the car .

all these need accurate and real wind tunnel test to know what to change . ( only perodua engineer know )

cant believe a drag coefficient (cD) of 0.286 car will have such effect haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bUlFUxMRvI

maybe perodua can include Mercedes technology haha , but my variant dont have esp .
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the Cd is obtain when the air is flowing from front to rear, so tepi tak kira. brows.gif
remember bezza is a car which is light weight, and the side profile is quite huge (large surface area) so it is more sensitive to cross wind effect. even alza that weights 1160kg you still have the cross wind effect due to the side profile is huge.

aerodynamics is something that is very tricky to handle if you don't have proper equipment and methodology. even F1 cars they need a lot of simulation and real world validation to ensure their aero kits are working well.

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post Mar 29 2018, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(Goodboy92 @ Mar 29 2018, 05:40 PM)
not , it was like piston running with not enough fuel and slight knocking sound , ya knocking sound to be accurate , since this engine compression ratio were consider high 11.5. ( i dont like high tech engine ( cost wise  biggrin.gif ) , mazda engine goes up to 14:1 + direct injection , need to be more careful when using these high tech engine , it was better to know it well and you know what sign show what etc. )
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when the engine is running hot and the tuning is aggressive knocking tend to happen. it will happen if there's carbon build up in the combustion chamber as well. proton saga BLM have such symptoms even it is just a 10:1 compression ratio engine, probably due to hot running engine and aggressive tuning.

knocking prevention need to run down to fundamental which is the cooling. the oil and coolant circulation.

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