CRT TV will be phased out in stages in near future. Samsung and Sony are leading the pack. Just got the news from the salesppl. Samsung has discon CRT TV production for Malaysia market. Soon, Panasonic will follow suits. I guess it is no longer profitable for them to produce.

better stock some CRTs before they extinct! You won't know how much they'll worth when you sell them to Museum Negara, 50 years later

I find it hard to believe, especially coming from a salesperson.

The price of CRTs is still far cheaper than LCDs in most environments. Given the price sensitive nature of most consumers in this region, discontinuing CRTs is very strange.

Google for the news. I did and didn't find anything. Stopping a product line is major news especially if it's Samsung/Sony/etc.

I think the sales guy was trying very hard to sell you an LCD/plasma TV

no profitable or they actually want to sell onli lcd and plasma so can earn more profit.

nway,hope that as a result price of both lcd and plasma will be cheaper

Actually the price of big CRT is near to price of LCD. For example, 34" Sony CRT is around rm2400. LG LCD 32" is just 2800 with 720p resolution. Who will buy CRT in this case?

HmmM .. but then right now LCD Tv's pricing isnt really that affordable for some end users, agree ?

Regards,
Hughie

But anyway, for now, terrestial TV and astro still better view with CRT since all LCD/Plasma is widescreen.

bro, 34 inch crt damn big la. should compare 32 inch lcd with 29 inch crt as the screen size almost same.... 29 ich crt onli cost around 1000 compare with 32 lcd around 3000++

average people with average income confirm will buy the crt la.....futhermore astro looks a lot better in crt compare with lcd

This post has been edited by saiga: Mar 13 2007, 10:55 PM

I agreed with you But that day I came across LCD TVs from SONY that comes with a function which is known as Astro Enhancement Mode ..
Its said to be useful in enhancing the image quality when you are watching ASTRO .. but I haven't test it out before.

Regards,
Hughie

Err.. ? Sorry, i saw a adv recently regarding CRT TV.

If memory serves, Samsung is promoting their 4th generation CRT TVs which are 30% slimmer than conventional CRT TV..

HmMM .. I guess it needs about few years time to really get obsolete in the market coz there is still Samsung who is selling the SLimfit CRT TV ? || Correct me if I am wrong.

Regards,
Hughie

I do agree with you. My uncle bought a 29'' CRT and thought he got a great deal. Wtf

LOL... how much is the 29" CRT ?

Just as well energy bills are already biting us in the butt, it'll be worthwhile to change any CRT TV/Monitor to LCD where it'll certainly have some savings on utility bill. Imagine a usual home having maybe 2 TV's, 2-3 computer sets.. people are spending a lot more on utility bills compared to 20-30 years ago...oh well..my 2 sen.

My electricity bill is RM120 per month. If I save RM50 per month on power (highly unlikely), it'll still take almost 4 years to pay off the differential between a 29" CRT and a 32" LCD.

I think LCD/plasma TV salespeople love these type of gullible customers

900 only... actually CRT is expensive only for 34". 29" is too cheap

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Added on March 14, 2007, 1:38 amthat's no use one lar. if LCD is widescreen, you either squeeze the picture or cut the picture. either way, u lose

This post has been edited by gogo2: Mar 14 2007, 01:38 AM

Here are some of the news on CRT TV :

Samsung to stop selling CRT-based TVs to China

Sony to stop making CRT TV

and the not-so-new news :

Panasonic kills off CRT TVs

This post has been edited by htkaki: Mar 14 2007, 08:54 AM

HmmM ... Thanks for sharing the news threadstarter ...
Then I guess it will take some time for the consumers to cope with purchasing and using LCD Tvs ... but then I myself here selling CCTV trying to use LCD for the Surveillance systems and ended up the image quality isn't sharp and crisp at all ...

Regards,
Hughie

Technology needs to be in trend with all others, nowdays if you were watching a HD-DVD or BD, on a crt, isn't it a big turnoff? Well.. to me, it certainly is.. Same goes to all other computer stuffs, if we don't let go the old ones, the new ones don't come.. The trend now is moving fast towards widescreen, and A$$tro is a few decades behind the broadcasting technology, nowdays everything is broadcasted in HD, Widescreen, etc. Look at the states, i'm not comparing but it's a fair game to play between us and technology..

People might say that LCD/Plasma is expensive.. because it's new.. to Malaysian that is.. Almost everyone in the States are using LCD or Plasma now, as it's affordable (very!!) and their OTA or cable tv are broadcasting 480p or 720p ! So for them to enjoy it, they have to buy widescreen displays! But what about us? We're just playing the waiting game, we have the hardwares ready, but the softwares are not (a$$tro).

So, to us malaysians, maybe it's too soon for them to just discontinue producing CRT tvs as us malaysians haven't adapted to the HD era.. but don't worry, There's still Haier/Akira/Audiovisio or whatever brand to save us

Well said !
Yup, I agreed that it is too soon for us in Malaysia to discon the CRT TV Models .. as they are still some consumers out there who cant really afford LCD TV .. but then I guess within a couple of years time .. sooner or later we will be joining the trend. But I was wondering if more and more China brands electrical appliances are coming in .. wont that affect the market as well ?
In my humble opinion .. this will lead the end users to go for cheaper alternatives instead of branded items such as Panasonic, Sony, and many more ..

Regards,
Hughie

If Haier brand to Malaysians are like Westinghouse to the States, and Oppo players are like Akira players to us, I seriously don't mind them coming in! Those brands can be considered 'local made' over there IINM..

HmmM ... Haier brand is still ok .. but then I am not sure about Akira.but what is your opinion about their products performance ? Better or can stay competitive with branded items ?

Regards,
Hughie

My 3 cent opinion, its similar to VCD la.. People got DVD and now even blue ray but then theres still people who use VCD and buy pasar malam one somemore..

Dont worry man.. Philips is still producing at least for now.. (LG.Philips Display factory)
LG.Philips will have also Cybertube+ which is slim CRT likes Samsung SlimFit.

I believe CRT will be phased out to Malaysian market when branded 32" LCD price drop to RM1800 below in Malaysian Market. RM3k for Malaysia is not really affordable but SGD 1200 32" LCD for Singaporean is affordable..

This post has been edited by accs_centre: Mar 14 2007, 02:08 PM

not 'some', but 'remain'
The LCD TV still pricy, I rather using computer WS LCD with 'tv box' thing .

http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/home_av/tvs/0...61992570,00.htm

i really dun think CRT is quite done yet. USA only beginning 100% HDTV transmission by 2009

http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyN...13?pageNumber=2

yes, samsung will stop selling but that doesnt mean they will stop producing or selling in other countries

This post has been edited by carpathia: Mar 14 2007, 02:31 PM

HmmM .. Ya !
I guess there are some other major brands that are still manufacturing CRT TV's .. but what do you guyz think of the HDTV or SLimfit TV compare to a normal LCD Tv .. which one is more worth while to go for .. in terms of Picture Quality .. ?

Regards,
Hughie

The Sony WEGA KM or KV series, can't recall,it's the 29 incher CRT that takes in Component and can display 720p or 1080i.. now that's what i call a good crt tv which costs less than 2k if i'm not mistaken.. but then.. those LCD tvs from LG which is priced less than 3k sure is tempting eh..

choices choices..

Ya,plenty of choices to choose from .. but then have to make the right decision on the right one. I guess with the price of $3,000 MYR .. I would rather get a good CRT TV instead of a normal LCD TV based on the specification and performance wise. HmmM ...

Regards,
Hughie

depends on wat u wanna watch. if 34" crt, watching 720p or 1080i, will be smaller than 32" LCD. LCD widescreen can display more. but astro surely CRT better

HmmM .. I see. Ya,agreed with you about the Astro till now not much LCD Tv demo on the road are displaying tv channels but those demo videos only ..
HmmM .. gogo2, what if I am always watching DVD's .. *ahem version most of the time, CRT or LCD would be better ?

Regards,
Hughie

For ahem DVDs, it doesn't really matter, although my experience has shown that on LCDs ahems tend to do worse.

I'm using a 29" Philips Pixel Plus 2 CRT - for gaming, astro and DVDs. So far, until I can afford an LCD screen the processing technology is the best, even though it can only do 480p and 1080i. I'm happy, and I think a lot of Malaysians will still be happy with CRTs until they hit that magical RM 2k price point (for good ones, not crappy Amoi ones).

HmM .. I got you point there !
Guess we will be able to get high quality DVD images on the LCD Tv's with high definition DVD's ? How about HDMI feature .. will it improve the quality as well .. rather than using the normal AV RCA output or the S-Video .. ?

Regards,
Hughie

I watch those cough versions of DVDs as well on my samsung 32 incher wide.. using my xbox360 as the player, outputting through component at 720p, i don't know if the xbox does upconverting or not, but the display is really better than any crts..

those letterboxes are evil~!

HmmM
Watching DVDs from Media Box such as XboX 360 will have much better quality than ordinary DVD players that cost not more than $300 MYR right ?

Regards,
Hughie

It's purely a matter of opinion of course, but I feel that when you compare a 29" CRT vs 32" LCD Widescreen, the CRT screen seems bigger. Based purely on this, I'll go for the 29" CRT anyday (and I have).

The CRT is definitely bigger if u compare the size between the unit itself jk

If the source is in a 16:9 format, watching it on a CRT would have letterboxes(black bars on top and bottom) so the image is shrinked, so the 32" widescreen will display a larger image than a 29" CRT because 16:9 is the native aspect ratio for a widescreen.. Meanwhile CRTs are 4:3..

And like i said a few posts before.. the trend is moving towards HD.. and HD = Widescreen (major).. You don't see cinemas projecting a square image do you? and even cinemas are wider than the LCDs in the market.. 1.85:1 or 2.35:1 ratio while those tvs in the market now is 1.77:1 (16:9)..

Sooner or later, CRTs will be discontinued as LCDs are getting cheaper and cheaper in times to come.. and by then.. nobody would buy a big and heavy CRT.. When they can buy a slim and light LCDs..

Of course, nobody is disputing that widescreen and slimmer LCDs/Plasmas are the way of the future..just not immediately.

I based my purchase on image quality and processing - and when I purchased the CRT that was the best in ANY CRT, bar none. Of course things have changed a lot since then - but now I'm tainted because the next TV I buy MUST match or overtake my current image quality...if not, then it would feel like a step back to me.

Unfortunately, the closest ones that can do that are in the RM 11,xxx range and above...

Lord Ashe, I bet u r talking abt 1080p panel

HmmM .. how about the future of plasma TV ? They was once came into the market before the LCD TV hits in right ? Correct me if I am wrong ..

But I would say that 50% of the Malaysians are going for budget products instead of high quality and performance wise .. how would that contribute to the development of the community towards the better future ?

Regards,
Hughie

This post has been edited by HughieRmX: Mar 15 2007, 03:08 PM

Malaysia, China, USA, Japan and some countries u think of ARE NOT the whole world, consider indo, philipines, vietnam, india, and many other, CRT is still cheaper and pretty much exist in those worlds, and even PC wat they have is pretty outdated compare to "the world" (im not talking about p4,p3 but lesser than p2 exists, pretty much -Again, im not saying capital of those contries) even in malaysia, many rural areas, kampungs still pretty happy with 24 inch CRT.

my conclusion, CRT wont die yet, at least for these coming 10-20 years. dun generalize too much, there are still pretty important even in design/filming industry ...

Agreed !!
Only well developed areas such as big city or township are able to see the wonders of new technology bringing in from the outside world .. but the suburbs and outskirt of the city might not be able to. Maybe for them a 29 inch CRT id s very expensive and yet a powerful TV they had ... just my 2cents.

Regards,
Hughie

Yup. Imagine the kampung folks where the total income is less than 1k, they will stick with CRT all the way.

Anyways, coming back to the topic, i will get the new 100mhz LCD from tosh or sharp once the price comes down...im using philips 34" crt now. not very happy wit the crt as it doesnt display the blacks very well. only good thing is that it has 480p and expand 16:9 movies if i need to .

HmmM ... you are right
How about getting CRT TVs with 100 Mhz such as Panasonic and Samsung ?

i wud say this is the best time for CRT ahahahahaha ... they are at the cheapest and most practical for normal tv viewing as none of the available tv programmes here in malaysia are in hd format

Anyway..was at Carrefour Subang earlier. Saw some brand new boxed Panasonic 29" TV's going for Rm900+..they're disposing remaining stock of few units there. There's some 21" too along with some Philips and Samsung Midi DVD capable components going at excellent price discount.

This post has been edited by bsl555: Mar 15 2007, 08:56 PM

Great !!
At least can go for some branded items at an affordable rate. Thanks for the update 29 inch for the price below $1,000 MYR is really a good bargain ..

Regards,
Hughie

This post has been edited by HughieRmX: Mar 15 2007, 09:55 PM

crt is hard to phase out juz like floppy drive...over30 years zzz

Oh well..the FDD is still neccessary for those who still use old or ancient PC's compared to gamer's PC and don't really see the need to go hi-tech..for e.g. accounts and legal firms..it suffice their basic requirements to do the job.

As with rural folk..a CRT TV is just a TV..as long don't need to spend mind boggling figures and within affordability. LCD's and Plasma's are not within their affordability..not even me, and in truth, hard earned money is spent prudently elsewhere. Generally..that's the general local mindset, unless one insists on keeping up with the Jones.

actually i wanted to initially buy the panasonic 34" 100mhz crt but the price is around 2.8k...very high.

HmmM ..
Ya, those branded 100 Mhz CRT TV is still at the high price tag .. I wonder when they will be dropping ? Since there are so many competitors for the LCD TVs already ... or is it there is something behind the technology of 100 Mhz CRT Tv compare to a LCD TV ?

Regards,
Hughie

Until HD TV transmission makes it appearance here , the CRT TV will still live on. Watching standard TV programmes on a LCD is still lacking in sharpness and quality for most LCDs.

The price has been dropping a lot this few month..
Branded 34" 100Hz CRT is range from RM1999-2399 now..(eg. Philips and Panasonic)

However, 29" 100Hz has better picture quality for its Contast and brightness..Much affordable also..(around RM1350 only)

This post has been edited by accs_centre: Mar 16 2007, 12:56 PM

already phase out lar fdd....if u dun notice...

not really. only 2 brands carry 34" crt - philips and panasonic. panasonic 34" have yet to move down south

fdd is not yet phase out ...... go out there, see those ATM machines, 99% of them STILL USING fdd if u dun know

Really ?
I am still looking for a good one .. luckily I didnt get a normal CRT Tv last month Thanks for the update

Regards,
Hughie

CRT where can die so fast. LCD is still ridiculously expensive for most people in Malaysia. Go to Carrefour and you'll see people buying all the China brand CRTs.

Samsung exit the CRT market in China because they can't compete with them. Very soon, all the CRT market will taken over by China. You don't need high-end tech for CRT and China can make them easily.

CRT will be here to stay for another 10 to 20 years at least.

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Added on March 17, 2007, 9:45 amI don't believe in 100hz CRT. IMO, Philips with Pixel Plus and SONY HDTV CRT are the best. Samsung CRT looks horrible and Panasonic isn't any better either.

btw, my SONY 29" doesn't have 100hz but it has some other technology called DRC and i never notice any flickers even at 60Hz. Not to mentioned it rocks at HDTV resolutions.

This post has been edited by Matrix: Mar 17 2007, 09:45 AM

Do keep your CRT. Soon it will be very valuable. Just like valve tube.

HmmM ... Thanks for sharing your opinion about the 100hz CRT TVs ... I have noticed that eventhough the Panasonic's one aren't really better when you turn it on and compare with other normal 60Hz TV.

Regards,
Hughie

Can crts output at 480p?

I'm thinking of buying a 29". Don't know which to choose. Philips, Panasonic or Sharp? All around RM900.

remember last time my dad get us a 29' sony crt tv at rm1.8k.
now 29' crt oni need rm900?

Philips for better Color Reproduction;
Panasonic for Sharper picture;
Sharp for overall..

Philips has more functionality. Has Picture Zoom, Teletext, Nicam Stereo and S-video input while Panasonic dont hv the function mentioned. But Philips's picture is less sharp compared with Panasonic. Panasonic's color is very poor.

Ahh, I see. Thanks. Think go for sharp, I like the shape.

Today saw Samsung slim fit widescreen ctv. Looks so sexy.

Samsung picture and color quality is no no for me..
Sharp is going to have a new range of 29" now.. have a look

Greetings !

Accs_centre, how about SHARP Aquos LCD TV's ... ? Their color saturation is much better compare to other LCD Tv brands ? Thank you.

Regards,
HughiE

Is it the xflat plus or is there something even newer?

For sure.. Sharp's LCD is top quality at no doubt..They hv better contract and black level on their LCD panel..that's y u hv to pay them premium price as well..

LCD - Think of SHARP
PLASMA - Think of Pioneer

There is something newer than xflat plus..Coming in very soon..

The current xflat plus model:




This post has been edited by accs_centre: Mar 25 2007, 04:45 PM

Greetings !

Thanks for your information, accs_centre. HmmM ... yesterday I went to Best Denki and I was sitting at the front of a LCD TV by Sharp and I realized that their demo is mostly focusing on color saturation and I think that the sharpness of the picture quality isn't really that good ..

Any idea ?

Regards,
HughiE

yep.. further more you need two elephants to carry the 34 CRT TV where as your 14yo brother can carry the 32in LCD

Electron guns aren't dead yet that's for sure, coupling silicon substrates with millions of beam emmiters striking pixels may yet be one of the technologies that can really kill LCDs and Plasmas.

Aiyo .. Pioneer PLasma super expensive lor. 7 gen 42 plasma cant even do 720p selling at RM13999 Sharp's 42in 1080p LCD oso selling at the same price

summore, Pioneer claiming HD lagi when the native res of the plasma is not even hidef .. waiting for Pioneer's Gen8 Plasma. Hopefully they would be cheaper. If not Plasma can just go to hell leaving on LCD.

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Added on March 26, 2007, 5:06 amoh since you brought it up ... lcd or plasma do not have the electron thingy. safer for your eyes, your children's eyes

This post has been edited by g5sim: Mar 26 2007, 05:06 AM

Since when are electrons bad for your eyes?

You'll have to differentiate between radiation due to the electron beam hitting the phosphor and the electron beam itself. The electron beam can be made to strike nearly anything depending on the response it receives, on an electron beam system, the beam is made to strike and target and the visual image we see in screen is generally a conversion of the beam's kenetic energy.

It just depends on the method of reaction. And if you ask me, multiple electron guns on a silicon substrate and organic substarget give superior dynamic range, color reproduction and contrast in my view.

yup- my philips 34" output 480p no problems.

my philips colour is ok but the brightness and blacks is not very good. no wonder its only 1.9k for a 34 tv

Greetings !

I guess for CRT TVs we should be going for Samsung ?
Panasonic as been indicated that the color saturation isnt really natural at all .. Philips for brightness and contrast .. other brands I am not sure about ..
Correct me if I am wrong.

Regards,
HughiE

Based on what experiences you have made comparison and come about to your conclusion? Compared a row of various TV's stacked in a row, at some retail outlet?, compared by owning various brands or multiple sets in your home, for a period of time and that you can point out instantly bad points or how much the difference?...lastly.,,were the TV's adjusted by yourself for optimum viewing satisfaction or left at factory default settings (not entirely the best setting to everyone's satisfaction).

I even remember seeing some big screen TV's (all sorts of reputable CRT or RPTV brands at some mamak joints, so mal-adjusted that its NOT pleasurable watching like a soccer match)..can watch lah..but certainly I won't be there for long..

This post has been edited by bsl555: Mar 26 2007, 01:56 PM

Hello !

I guess you misunderstood what I am trying to say in my previous post .. I gather up some of the information on this thread posted by some of the forumers and asking is it true with what they mentioned ? I was planning to get a CRT TV for my home and I am still figuring out which one should I go for ..
Thank you.

Not also.. Philips bad for contrast and brightness as mentioned by carpathia not just limited to PHILIPS but other brands as well..Because of 34" CRT technology..Few brands i saw for 34" also has lower contrast and brightness level which cant match with 29"..

Samsung CRT also bad for color.. the SlimFit also the same.. the so called DNIE Jr is useless on my eyes..

Greetings !

Thanks for the prompt reply. I would like to know .. if thats the case which brand will you recommed if I were to purchase a CRT Tvs .. How about Panasonic GIGA Series .. will it be better ?
Are you trying to say that 29" CRT will be much better .. compare to 34" ?

Regards,
HughiE

I would recommend Philips 29" 100Hz with pixel Plus 29PT8845.It is around RM1400 now.. It has good color reproduction and contrast. From my comparison, some 100hz TV is still fickering in picture but this Philips picture is more stable..

However, this model as i know has minor problem which it may turn to blue screenf or few seconds and back to picture.. If u get a set which this problem, dont worry, just called to Philips and their technician has solution to that by adding extra component into the TV set..

Greetings !

Thanks for your recommendation. Previously I went to the Best Denki store and I came across the Panasonic TAU GIGA Series there was flickering images and lines behind the scene just that it is not as obvious as the 50/60 Hz CRT.
HmmM ... RM1400 .. still kinda expensive but i guess is worth to go for based on your feedback.

Regards,
HughiE

What shall we do to our current big fat CRT TV if we are going to replace it with skinny LCD? I don't think i can carry it down the staircase.. i mean my 29" CRT TV.

I really can't decide which one to buy:

1. Sony DZ29M61
2. Panasonic 29F350M
3. Philips 29PT8845

Both are 100hz CRT but don't know which one is the best?

i would go for the sony bcos of the brightness !pixel plus is nice to have for philips but since i own the 34" philips, i now realise how badly i needed the brightness and contrast when i play ps2 and dvd.

This post has been edited by carpathia: Mar 27 2007, 10:45 AM

I'm using a Sony Wega myself and yes, the brightness and the contrast are a tad better than competing brands. It's reliable too. This tv lasted a couple of years, totally problem free. I'm still using it for my standard definition sources.

its too bad sony dun have 34" cdt anymore. and they were selling a widescreen 32" sometime back in the curve but in limited quantity only.

Greetings !

Guys, I'm sorry for asking such noob question but I would like to know what is the difference in between the flat screen CRT and the one that is not flat screen .. ?
is it in terms of performance wise or some other technical factors ?
Thank you.

Regards,
HughiE

Ehh...not really huge difference..
Flat screen inner also not really whole flat ..still some curve inside.

Wat i notice flat screen will give u better viewing angle as from side can see whole picture unline curve screen.. Usually Flat screen will have higher contrast so that u see clearer picture..

Anyway, Flat screen is too affordable now and no need to consider curve screen as only differ about RM50...

This post has been edited by accs_centre: Mar 27 2007, 05:04 PM

Greetings !

Thanks for the prompt reply, accs_centre.
HmmM ... I see. Not much difference in the picture quality wise except it is much more better in terms of clarity .. by the way. I didn't manage to get a new one coz I just got one free from my aunt .. I think its 34" LG Curve CRT TV ... but when compare to my previous Sharp CRT TV .. I really feel that Sharp really have the quality in color saturation which makes the image more vibrant ...

Regards,
HughiE

Hi, do you think for 29" CRT will be the lowest price currently? Coz if stop production sure the price will go back up?

actually, the price is already SO cheap now compared to few years back . i still remember when 29" tv was going for 3-4k in 1996

i will be very happy when the big guys stop making CRT..then the price of lcd and plasma will fall !