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post Mar 23 2007, 01:08 PM

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Can crts output at 480p?

I'm thinking of buying a 29". Don't know which to choose. Philips, Panasonic or Sharp? All around RM900.
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post Mar 24 2007, 02:20 PM

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remember last time my dad get us a 29' sony crt tv at rm1.8k.
now 29' crt oni need rm900? shocking.gif
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post Mar 24 2007, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(dos @ Mar 23 2007, 01:08 PM)
Can crts output at 480p?

I'm thinking of buying a 29". Don't know which to choose. Philips, Panasonic or Sharp? All around RM900.
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Philips for better Color Reproduction;
Panasonic for Sharper picture;
Sharp for overall..

Philips has more functionality. Has Picture Zoom, Teletext, Nicam Stereo and S-video input while Panasonic dont hv the function mentioned. But Philips's picture is less sharp compared with Panasonic. Panasonic's color is very poor. doh.gif
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post Mar 24 2007, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(accs_centre @ Mar 24 2007, 08:41 PM)
Philips for better Color Reproduction;
Panasonic for Sharper picture;
Sharp for overall..

Philips has more functionality. Has Picture Zoom, Teletext, Nicam Stereo and S-video input while Panasonic dont hv the function mentioned. But Philips's picture is less sharp compared with Panasonic. Panasonic's color is very poor.  doh.gif
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Ahh, I see. Thanks. Think go for sharp, I like the shape. smile.gif

Today saw Samsung slim fit widescreen ctv. Looks so sexy.
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post Mar 25 2007, 12:27 AM

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Samsung picture and color quality is no no for me..
Sharp is going to have a new range of 29" now.. have a look
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post Mar 25 2007, 08:59 AM

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Greetings ! smile.gif

Accs_centre, how about SHARP Aquos LCD TV's ... ? unsure.gif Their color saturation is much better compare to other LCD Tv brands ? Thank you.

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post Mar 25 2007, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(accs_centre @ Mar 25 2007, 12:27 AM)
Samsung picture and color quality is no no for me..
Sharp is going to have a new range of 29" now.. have a look
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Is it the xflat plus or is there something even newer?
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post Mar 25 2007, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(HughieRmX @ Mar 25 2007, 08:59 AM)
Greetings ! smile.gif

Accs_centre, how about SHARP Aquos LCD TV's ... ? unsure.gif Their color saturation is much better compare to other LCD Tv brands ? Thank you.

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For sure.. Sharp's LCD is top quality at no doubt..They hv better contract and black level on their LCD panel..that's y u hv to pay them premium price as well..

LCD - Think of SHARP
PLASMA - Think of Pioneer

QUOTE(dos @ Mar 25 2007, 10:18 AM)
Is it the xflat plus or is there something even newer?
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There is something newer than xflat plus..Coming in very soon..

The current xflat plus model:
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post Mar 25 2007, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(accs_centre @ Mar 25 2007, 04:43 PM)
For sure.. Sharp's LCD is top quality at no doubt..They hv better contract and black level on their LCD panel..that's y u hv to pay them premium price as well..

LCD - Think of SHARP
PLASMA - Think of Pioneer
There is something newer than xflat plus..Coming in very soon..

The current xflat plus model:
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Greetings ! smile.gif

Thanks for your information, accs_centre. HmmM ... yesterday I went to Best Denki and I was sitting at the front of a LCD TV by Sharp and I realized that their demo is mostly focusing on color saturation and I think that the sharpness of the picture quality isn't really that good .. hmm.gif

Any idea ?

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post Mar 26 2007, 04:40 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Mar 13 2007, 10:49 PM)
Actually the price of big CRT is near to price of LCD. For example, 34" Sony CRT is around rm2400. LG LCD 32" is just 2800 with 720p resolution. Who will buy CRT in this case?
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yep.. further more you need two elephants to carry the 34 CRT TV where as your 14yo brother can carry the 32in LCD wink.gif
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post Mar 26 2007, 05:00 AM

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Electron guns aren't dead yet that's for sure, coupling silicon substrates with millions of beam emmiters striking pixels may yet be one of the technologies that can really kill LCDs and Plasmas.
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post Mar 26 2007, 05:03 AM

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QUOTE(accs_centre @ Mar 25 2007, 04:43 PM)
For sure.. Sharp's LCD is top quality at no doubt..They hv better contract and black level on their LCD panel..that's y u hv to pay them premium price as well..

LCD - Think of SHARP
PLASMA - Think of Pioneer
There is something newer than xflat plus..Coming in very soon..

The current xflat plus model:
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Aiyo .. Pioneer PLasma super expensive lor. 7 gen 42 plasma cant even do 720p selling at RM13999 sweat.gif Sharp's 42in 1080p LCD oso selling at the same price

summore, Pioneer claiming HD lagi when the native res of the plasma is not even hidef .. waiting for Pioneer's Gen8 Plasma. Hopefully they would be cheaper. If not Plasma can just go to hell leaving on LCD.


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QUOTE(empire23 @ Mar 26 2007, 05:00 AM)
Electron guns aren't dead yet that's for sure, coupling silicon substrates with millions of beam emmiters striking pixels may yet be one of the technologies that can really kill LCDs and Plasmas.
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oh since you brought it up ... lcd or plasma do not have the electron thingy. safer for your eyes, your children's eyes tongue.gif

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post Mar 26 2007, 07:28 AM

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QUOTE(g5sim @ Mar 26 2007, 05:03 AM)
oh since you brought it up ... lcd or plasma do not have the electron thingy. safer for your eyes, your children's eyes tongue.gif
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Since when are electrons bad for your eyes?

You'll have to differentiate between radiation due to the electron beam hitting the phosphor and the electron beam itself. The electron beam can be made to strike nearly anything depending on the response it receives, on an electron beam system, the beam is made to strike and target and the visual image we see in screen is generally a conversion of the beam's kenetic energy.

It just depends on the method of reaction. And if you ask me, multiple electron guns on a silicon substrate and organic substarget give superior dynamic range, color reproduction and contrast in my view.
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post Mar 26 2007, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(dos @ Mar 23 2007, 01:08 PM)
Can crts output at 480p?

I'm thinking of buying a 29". Don't know which to choose. Philips, Panasonic or Sharp? All around RM900.
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yup- my philips 34" output 480p no problems.

my philips colour is ok but the brightness and blacks is not very good. no wonder its only 1.9k for a 34 tv
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post Mar 26 2007, 01:41 PM

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Greetings ! smile.gif

I guess for CRT TVs we should be going for Samsung ? unsure.gif
Panasonic as been indicated that the color saturation isnt really natural at all .. Philips for brightness and contrast .. other brands I am not sure about ..
Correct me if I am wrong. smile.gif

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post Mar 26 2007, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(HughieRmX @ Mar 26 2007, 01:41 PM)
I guess for CRT TVs we should be going for Samsung ? unsure.gif
Panasonic as been indicated that the color saturation isnt really natural at all .. Philips for brightness and contrast .. other brands I am not sure about ..
Correct me if I am wrong. smile.gif
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Based on what experiences you have made comparison and come about to your conclusion? Compared a row of various TV's stacked in a row, at some retail outlet?, compared by owning various brands or multiple sets in your home, for a period of time and that you can point out instantly bad points or how much the difference?...lastly.,,were the TV's adjusted by yourself for optimum viewing satisfaction or left at factory default settings (not entirely the best setting to everyone's satisfaction).

I even remember seeing some big screen TV's (all sorts of reputable CRT or RPTV brands at some mamak joints, so mal-adjusted that its NOT pleasurable watching like a soccer match)..can watch lah..but certainly I won't be there for long..

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QUOTE(bsl555 @ Mar 26 2007, 01:52 PM)
Based on what experiences you have made comparison and come about to your conclusion? Compared a row of various TV's stacked in a row, at some retail outlet?, compared by owning various brands or multiple sets in your home, for a period of time and that you can point out instantly bad points or how much the difference?...lastly.,,were the TV's adjusted by yourself for optimum viewing satisfaction or left at factory default settings (not entirely the best setting to everyone's satisfaction).

I even remember seeing some big screen TV's (all sorts of reputable CRT or RPTV brands at some mamak joints, so mal-adjusted that its NOT pleasurable watching like a soccer match)..can watch lah..but certainly I won't be there for long..
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Hello ! smile.gif

I guess you misunderstood what I am trying to say in my previous post .. I gather up some of the information on this thread posted by some of the forumers and asking is it true with what they mentioned ? I was planning to get a CRT TV for my home and I am still figuring out which one should I go for ..
Thank you.


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post Mar 26 2007, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(HughieRmX @ Mar 26 2007, 01:41 PM)
Greetings ! smile.gif

I guess for CRT TVs we should be going for Samsung ? unsure.gif
Panasonic as been indicated that the color saturation isnt really natural at all .. Philips for brightness and contrast .. other brands I am not sure about ..
Correct me if I am wrong. smile.gif

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Not also.. Philips bad for contrast and brightness as mentioned by carpathia not just limited to PHILIPS but other brands as well..Because of 34" CRT technology..Few brands i saw for 34" also has lower contrast and brightness level which cant match with 29"..

Samsung CRT also bad for color.. the SlimFit also the same.. the so called DNIE Jr is useless on my eyes..
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QUOTE(accs_centre @ Mar 26 2007, 02:48 PM)
Not also.. Philips bad for contrast and brightness as mentioned by carpathia not just limited to PHILIPS but other brands as well..Because of 34" CRT technology..Few brands i saw for 34" also has lower contrast and brightness level which cant match with 29"..

Samsung CRT also bad for color.. the SlimFit also the same.. the so called DNIE Jr is useless on my eyes..
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Greetings ! smile.gif

Thanks for the prompt reply. I would like to know .. if thats the case which brand will you recommed if I were to purchase a CRT Tvs .. How about Panasonic GIGA Series .. will it be better ? unsure.gif
Are you trying to say that 29" CRT will be much better .. compare to 34" ?

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post Mar 26 2007, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(HughieRmX @ Mar 26 2007, 03:25 PM)
Greetings ! smile.gif

Thanks for the prompt reply. I would like to know .. if thats the case which brand will you recommed if I were to purchase a CRT Tvs .. How about Panasonic GIGA Series .. will it be better ? unsure.gif
Are you trying to say that 29" CRT will be much better .. compare to 34" ?

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I would recommend Philips 29" 100Hz with pixel Plus 29PT8845.It is around RM1400 now.. It has good color reproduction and contrast. From my comparison, some 100hz TV is still fickering in picture but this Philips picture is more stable..

However, this model as i know has minor problem which it may turn to blue screenf or few seconds and back to picture.. If u get a set which this problem, dont worry, just called to Philips and their technician has solution to that by adding extra component into the TV set..

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