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post Apr 12 2017, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(w00t @ Apr 12 2017, 05:06 PM)
I seems to unable to use VPN with DiGi recently, so I thought DiGi started blocking VPN? Or could be blocking some VPN provider? I can confirmed the free Opera VPN tested was blocked.
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for DiGi Infinite, Certain VPN are blocked
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post Apr 12 2017, 05:33 PM

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been using this morning... some pendalaman felda at malacca speed can reach 60-70mbps...but nothing to download.. just youtube 1080p untill nothing to watch..
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post Apr 12 2017, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(kae7 @ Apr 12 2017, 05:25 PM)
for DiGi Infinite, Certain VPN are blocked
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Which one? blink.gif
yattnana
post Apr 12 2017, 06:56 PM

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Getflix works with i80....
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post Apr 12 2017, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(yattnana @ Apr 12 2017, 06:56 PM)
Getflix works with i80....
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Not anymore after you post this lol
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post Apr 12 2017, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 12 2017, 03:23 PM)
Excessive use of data not normally used by single or two person with multiple device.

The data used is probably look like being used in cybercafe and/or 10 person student house that keep downloading porn whole day.
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For example, your area get 20Mbps. You one person use 20Mbps and 10 persons use 20Mbps, is this data abuse?
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post Apr 12 2017, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(tanjiunnya @ Apr 12 2017, 09:27 PM)
For example, your area get 20Mbps. You one person use 20Mbps and 10 persons use 20Mbps, is this data abuse?
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If 1 person use, total data per month is 300gb with 20mbps. But if 10 person use probably per month usage is 3TB at 20mbps. And so to answer your question is yes, 10 person usage is data abuse.
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post Apr 12 2017, 10:59 PM

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Hi all,

For i150/I80 plan,
Do we able to use this sim in MiFi? Or LTE router?

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post Apr 12 2017, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 12 2017, 10:38 PM)
If 1 person use, total data per month is 300gb with 20mbps. But if 10 person use probably per month usage is 3TB at 20mbps. And so to answer your question is yes, 10 person usage is data abuse.
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Network abuse is basically define by the total data usage instead of users.
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post Apr 12 2017, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(bryannch @ Apr 12 2017, 10:59 PM)
Hi all,

For i150/I80 plan,
Do we able to use this sim in MiFi? Or LTE router?
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i'm using i150 with old maxis mifi huawei e5776
work fine with 7/8 devices connected
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post Apr 12 2017, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(asamalikum @ Apr 12 2017, 11:12 PM)
Network abuse is basically define by the total data usage instead of users.
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Yes. I totally agree. I give example why high data usage. One of it is shared by many user like cyber cafe.
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post Apr 12 2017, 11:21 PM

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Data abuse is when you download file like there is no tomorrow.
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post Apr 12 2017, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 12 2017, 10:38 PM)
If 1 person use, total data per month is 300gb with 20mbps. But if 10 person use probably per month usage is 3TB at 20mbps. And so to answer your question is yes, 10 person usage is data abuse.
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So, what is the different between 1 person using 20Mbps x 24hrs and 10 persons using 20Mbps x24hrs? the total data usage would be same if calculated 20Mbps x 24hrs. No matter how many person using, total usage still 20Mbps, so how you define 10 persons using the total 20Mbps were abuse instead of 1 person using the total 20Mbps?
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QUOTE(tanjiunnya @ Apr 12 2017, 11:23 PM)
So, what is the different between 1 person using 20Mbps x 24hrs  and 10 persons using 20Mbps x24hrs?  the total data usage would be same if calculated 20Mbps x 24hrs. No matter how many person using, total usage still 20Mbps, so how you define 10 persons using the total 20Mbps were abuse instead of 1 person using the total 20Mbps?
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that is the data speed not data usage

usually 10 peoples will use more data compare to 1 person
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post Apr 12 2017, 11:42 PM

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btw when will digi send the bill?
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post Apr 12 2017, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(asamalikum @ Apr 12 2017, 11:12 PM)
Network abuse is basically define by the total data usage instead of users.
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Data abuse define by the contain, not quantity or users.
There is no tnc disallow for sharing, just not allow for commercial or any illegal activities.
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post Apr 12 2017, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(budi1413 @ Apr 12 2017, 11:21 PM)
Data abuse is when you download file like there is no tomorrow.
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Haha ya

QUOTE(tanjiunnya @ Apr 12 2017, 11:23 PM)
So, what is the different between 1 person using 20Mbps x 24hrs  and 10 persons using 20Mbps x24hrs?  the total data usage would be same if calculated 20Mbps x 24hrs. No matter how many person using, total usage still 20Mbps, so how you define 10 persons using the total 20Mbps were abuse instead of 1 person using the total 20Mbps?
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Not true. 1 person probably use 5 hours. But 10 person may use up to 24 hours. So data will be more.

Your thinking too simplified, you need to eat more pig brain soup. It will increase your brain capacity.

QUOTE(wc_how @ Apr 12 2017, 11:45 PM)
Data abuse define by the contain, not quantity or users.
There is no tnc disallow for sharing, just not allow for commercial or any illegal activities.
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Data abuse is not an about TNC. It's about morality and Civic mindedness.
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post Apr 13 2017, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 12 2017, 11:50 PM)
Haha ya
Not true. 1 person probably use 5 hours. But 10 person may use up to 24 hours. So data will be more.

Your thinking too simplified, you need to eat more pig brain soup. It will increase your brain capacity.
Data abuse is not an about TNC. It's about morality and Civic mindedness.
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If defined by moral, yes, i will agree that this may be data abuse.
But this is a deal/business between a seller and a buyer. A willing to pay, and a willing to give, and it based on contract (or the tnc) which agreed by both.
And the hidden quota is 999GB, and i assume digi agree that this is an acceptable level for this plan before they conclude it as data abuse. This is the black & white, not something determined by a random usage, and everyone has different view on it.

And a business is based on moral (which is without black&white and how to justify), it would bring a lot of disaster.
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post Apr 13 2017, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(wc_how @ Apr 13 2017, 12:07 AM)
If defined by moral, yes, i will agree that this may be data abuse.
But this is a deal/business between a seller and a buyer. A willing to pay, and a willing to give, and it based on contract (or the tnc) which agreed by both.
And the hidden quota is 999GB, and i assume digi agree that this is an acceptable level for this plan before they conclude it as data abuse. This is the black & white, not something determined by a random usage, and everyone has different view on it.

And a business is based on moral (which is without black&white and how to justify), it would bring a lot of disaster.
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Abuse does not have to be illegal according to TnC or law. It is just wrong thing to do. Example is abuse alcohol. You can drink all you want. It's not outlawed to drink massive amount of alcohol. But to drink a lot of alcohol abnormally is called alcohol abuse.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 13 2017, 12:33 AM)
Abuse does not have to be illegal according to TnC or law. It is just wrong thing to do. Example is abuse alcohol. You can drink all you want. It's not outlawed to drink massive amount of alcohol. But to drink a lot of alcohol abnormally is called alcohol abuse.
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Alcohol is not really a good example to compare with the case from my view. Alcohol already a problem beginning when compare moral and religion, and it comes with limited quantity, and it may comes with problem when over drink it. Over download may not create problem (although maybe create congestion but it doesn't happen every time or every area).

And if i agree that data abuse is decided by quantity, still the amount is not decided by you or me, but digi.

If i give you a scenario like this. I spend 2TB per month. I use it to backup my 20 IPCAM to cloud for safety reason. How to you view this case?

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