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Amy09
post Apr 6 2017, 04:46 PM

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hmmmm the foce of weed is strong with TS - weed everyday smoke he must
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post Apr 6 2017, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(GibeDeMuny @ Apr 6 2017, 02:30 PM)
Sat 4D 1st prize is 2374

if win ayem lari bogel and guling2 in suria kk
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post Apr 6 2017, 04:49 PM

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post Apr 6 2017, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(kelvinlym @ Apr 6 2017, 04:40 PM)
ALL lottery games are negative value. If positive then there will not be any of these games on offer. People will find out and exploit it.

Take blackjack for example, remember the MIT guys who counted cards. They were working with about 1 or 2% positive value.  But they could identify when it's positive, so they bet big when value is positive.

In short, positive value games in lottery are non existent.

That's the reason I rarely play these kinda games. Only once in awhile like the Eurojackpot when the pot goes up to max and trickles down to the lower levels.
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i remember a few years ago during cheltenham festival there was a placepot available to bet on all horses to win on that day. no one won and the prize money just keep roll over until next day, at some point the pot went up to millions and i figured out i can just bet on all combinations and guarantee a win. However i realise do not have enough money to place on all combination because even at 1 pound per line i would need 7 grand + to cover all...

in the end i realise my calculation was wrong because there was multiple winners and the pot was split to many people so its still not + EV

interest experience for those interesting in betting tho

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post Apr 6 2017, 05:16 PM

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post Apr 6 2017, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(Amy09 @ Apr 6 2017, 09:46 AM)
hmmmm the foce of weed is strong with TS - weed everyday smoke he must
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QUOTE(GnomeMage @ Apr 6 2017, 09:57 AM)
*side story not related -

i remember a few years ago during cheltenham festival there was a placepot available to bet on all horses to win on that day. no one won and the prize money just keep roll over until next day, at some point the pot went up to millions and i figured out i can just bet on all combinations and guarantee a win. However i realise do not have enough money to place on all combination because even at 1 pound per line i would need 7 grand + to cover all...

in the end i realise my calculation was wrong because there was multiple winners and the pot was split to many people so its still not + EV

interest experience for those interesting in betting tho
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Yeah, that's the problem with all games. In the end the house always wins.
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post Apr 6 2017, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(GibeDeMuny @ Apr 6 2017, 02:30 PM)
Sat 4D 1st prize is 2374

if win ayem lari bogel and guling2 in suria kk
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post Apr 6 2017, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(Arata @ Apr 6 2017, 08:04 PM)
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post Apr 6 2017, 09:40 PM

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the irresistable payout from the black market... enjoy

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post Apr 9 2017, 05:59 PM

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Although TS' computation shows that punters are getting better chance by betting on BIG iPerm, but punters will tend to win less if using this strategy

e.g. if you are going to bet RM1 BIG on number 1234, instead of betting straight, you top up RM23 to go for BIG iPerm 1234, if 1234 comes out on

first : payout 2520 - 23 = 2497 vs. 2500 which is lesser winning by 3
second : payout 1008 - 23 = 985 vs. 1000 which is lesser winning by 15
third : payout 504 - 23 = 481 vs. 500 which is lesser winning by 19
special : payout 192 - 23 = 169 vs. 180 which is lesser winning by 11
consolation : payout 72 - 23 = 49 vs. 60 which is lesser winning by 11

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post Apr 9 2017, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(wufei @ Apr 6 2017, 01:33 PM)
all betting is losing $$$ , don't bet
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post Apr 9 2017, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(Lyu @ Apr 6 2017, 03:21 PM)
This fella pro
He knows the famous number

Less likely First to Third btw
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QUOTE(lyrilmaki @ Apr 6 2017, 04:49 PM)
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QUOTE(Arata @ Apr 6 2017, 08:04 PM)
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2374
DaMaCai Consolation

lol
next is when?

predict 1631

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post Apr 9 2017, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(GibeDeMuny @ Apr 9 2017, 09:16 PM)
2374
DaMaCai Consolation

lol
next is when?

predict 1631
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Ain't Sat and 1st prize.

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post Apr 9 2017, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(utusanmeridian @ Apr 6 2017, 09:40 PM)
the irresistable payout from the black market... enjoy

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How and where?
SUSGibeDeMuny
post Apr 10 2017, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(Arata @ Apr 9 2017, 11:22 PM)
Ain't Sat and 1st prize.

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KHAK

eh but Sat
Sports Toto 4D
1sr prize 2473

so close

next prediction 1631 or 1361

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post Apr 10 2017, 07:40 AM

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Why ppl buy black number?

1. Convenient over phone, SMS, runner, no need long queue
2. Higher payout
3. Result not rigged because they have no control
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post Apr 10 2017, 07:42 AM

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post Apr 10 2017, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(GibeDeMuny @ Apr 9 2017, 09:16 PM)
2374
DaMaCai Consolation

lol
next is when?

predict 1631
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So got win?

1631 the number so odd
Too odd .. x mau
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post Apr 10 2017, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(Lyu @ Apr 10 2017, 09:10 AM)
So got win?

1631 the number so odd
Too odd .. x mau
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tada main mia

predict no ony

Sat 2473 1st prize
Sun 2374 consol.

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