but i-Perm 24 you only get approx 1/24 payout compared to no Perm.

means you have to bet x24 more to get similar payouts.

no. i-perm is decided if you go for Perm, the digits you selected.

eg

AAAB = perm 4 (coz only 4 combinations)

AABB = perm 6

ABCC = perm 12

ABCD = perm 24

so if you select all different digit for your number, your perm is 24. payout is around 1/24 vs no perm.

But iPerm you can bet min RM1, isn't it? Based on your post.

Cos the payout for starter and consolation is RM8 and RM3 for RM1 bet. It is supposed to be RM7.50 and RM2.50, if divided by 24.

Which means BJTOTO give RM0.50 more prize money, which means it is better value. Meaning RM8*24 = RM192 and not RM180.

Am I wrong, here? Please correct me on the iPerm min bet as I derived the info from your post.

HOLLY SHIT!!!!


I dont understand any of this but thanks.

yea agree no such thing as true random. but the cycle for the number to repeat itself is way beyond human life cycle.

and if one have the ability the figure out the number generator function, he must be the one having IQ over 200.

even given the number generator itself, one might not necessary know the seed to the generator.

The calculation purely based on the pure probability number combination.
But in real world every punter who come across vehicle accident, 1st instint is lookout for the vehicle registration number.
Instead of calling help, call underground number collector, pau all big and small.

summary please?

so buy iperm 24??

better value maybe, but you still have to bet rm24 for perm24. the difference is negligible though, you need to really bet big amount to make real difference.

also, really depend what number you are buying. because perm is tied to ur selected Digits.





i don't know average how much people bet on their numbers. i'm guessing rm24 is considered alot.

But if you buy small, your chance is only 1st, 2nd & 3rd prize.

This post has been edited by advocado: Apr 6 2017, 02:23 PM

I'm not saying will win. I'm saying if you're gonna buy, better to buy with iPerm24 due to slightly higher payouts. Meaning you get better value for money.

Like saying you want to buy cigarettes. 7- 11 sell RM15, kkmart sell RM14.50. Since you're going to smoke anyway, better smoke the cheaper cigarettes.

How about games like Power/Supreme/Grand Toto?

what are the perks buying from underground vs legit?

If still have to bet RM24, why the payout shows RM8 and RM3?

i mean you have to bet rm24 if you want to get the same payout as no perm. but you get slightly more as you said with perm.

you can win with rm1, but payout will be, rm8 & rm3 lo. worth the hassle going to toto to buy?

Sat 4D 1st prize is 2374

if win ayem lari bogel and guling2 in suria kk

I'll analyze this weekend if I have time.

From gambler's perspective maybe not worth it. But mathematically speaking better value.

value yes, but you ignored the potential return of 1 big bet on 1 number vs 1 small bet on 24 perms, sometimes 1 big bet on 1 number can recoup all your losses and generate profit, but it'd be very difficult to do so with small bets on many numbers.

like casino, if you bet big, you have higher chance of winning by luck. but if you bet small, odds are you can't win the house even though you win rate is higher.

i think those Grand, Supreme, Power, is reserved for unique people that required some special services, because the rate is so low, it means, i'm not saying it is, but provides a good opportunity to rig a number to certain client.

for 4D, it's high chance some random guy will also hit the jackpot.

but 6/XX, chances are dunno how many billion in 1.

Yes I agree. If value is not a factor and I'm only going big or go bust, I'll definitely buy 1 number and bet my firstborn.