Some info from Damian @ AW Forum. Photo credit to malaysianmilitaryforces.





https://aw.my.com/en/forum/showthread.php?2...Vehicles/page80

well F35 itself price will getting cheaper，but F-35 combat advantage is new generation “networked” and “situational awareness” capability to kill enemy jet before they know。 but before F-35 can take such advantage, you need have Electronic warfare plane, AEW&C plane, many spy satellite, military satellite, super data communication via satellite/ground， long range (1000KM+ range) radar, ship radar , all networked together to provide all those information to F-35. there is huge cost investment to have all this asset and high maintenance cost, plus high skill military personal (high salary?) to operate. so i think in 10-15 years our MAF mostly still lack of this, maybe partially like AEW&C possible have it. before have all this, F-35 no have much advantage actually。

This post has been edited by waja2000: Apr 4 2017, 11:27 AM

yes， there large economy power.
this just thre Tier-1 shipyard,not yet calculate there tier-2 shipyard

it is also not economical to have all that just for the planes... with msia having rojak systems from all over and now even considering taking in donation.. consolidation and integration will be a big issue.. it would be an even more complex task of upgrading land and naval systems to all be network centric.. with servicemen earning less than their father's pension, i doubt they are capable enough too

Malaysia Again Says It Will Boost Maritime Surveillance




The Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) has made the acquisition of maritime patrol aircraft (MPA) its “number one priority,” according to Maj. Gen. Kamalruzaman bin Othman, assistant chief of staff, operations and strategy division. Responding to the requirement, Leonardo brought one of the ATR-72MP aircraft that it recently delivered to the Italian air force to last week’s Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace (LIMA) show. However, a previous Malaysian defense minister made the same declaration four years ago, with no action taken since.

“With the current situation in Sabah and Sarawak, it requires a lot of maritime surveillance,” said Kamalruzaman. He was referring to the repeated pirate attacks on shipping in Sulu Sea, including the kidnapping of sailors and tourists. But the RMAF currently operates just three MPAs. These are Beechcraft B200T Super King Airs, two of which are fitted with the Thales Airborne Maritime Situation and Control System (AMASCOS). A fourth B200T was written off last December, adding to the RMAF’s urgent need for an MPA.



Industry sources said that the RMAF is looking for an MPA focused on surveillance capabilities, rather than an armed platform. The Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA), which is responsible for policing duties in the country’s exclusive economic zone (EEZ), is also scouting for a light maritime surveillance aircraft. It currently flies just two CL-415 amphibians in this role.

Leonardo claims that the ATR-72MP has a low cost of operation, is easy to maintain and provides exceptional versatility in a number of maritime roles. It can fly missions lasting as long as 10 hours.

The ATR-72MP is equipped with Leonardo's Airborne Tactical Observation and Surveillance (ATOS) mission system, which uses advanced data-fusion techniques to present to the operator a single tactical picture that integrates information from all of the aircraft's onboard sensors. These include the company’s Seaspray AESA (active electronically scanned array) surveillance radar. The Italian company is hoping to leverage the large pool of ATR-72 airliners in Malaysia that will support the maintenance of the aircraft.




Saab is offering its new Swordfish anti-submarine and anti-surface mission system that can be carried by either the Global 6000 business jet or the Saab 2000 or Bombardier Q400 regional turboprops. The Swedish company is also proposing the leaner Albatross mission system, suitable for small platforms such as the Saab 340, to fulfill the MMEA’s requirement. This includes only a basic surface search radar, AIS, electro-optic camera and communications suite.

Another candidate for the Malaysian requirements could be the CN235 MPA that was designed by Airbus Defence & Space predecessor CASA, but which is now produced only by partner company Indonesian Aerospace in Bandung.


http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/def...me-surveillance

Chinese wary about US missile system because capabilities unknown



BEIJING: China is steadfastly opposed to the deployment of advanced U.S. anti-missile radars in South Korea because it does not know whether the defences, intended for North Korean missiles, are capable of tracking and countering Beijing's own nuclear programme, experts say.

Beijing's resistance to the THAAD (Terminal High Altitude Area Defense) anti-missile system put up south of Seoul has become a major thorn in bilateral ties with the United States and is bound to be discussed at this week's summit meeting between President Xi Jinping and President Donald Trump.

While the United States says THAAD is needed to protect Seoul from the threat posed by North Korea's growing nuclear and missile programs, some Chinese strategists believe it is also a threat to the viability of China's nuclear deterrent.

"It is clear that there is no one in China who really knows the technical capability of THAAD and that's part of the problem," said Zhang Baohui, a Hong Kong-based mainland expert on China's nuclear deterrent.

"THAAD's full capabilities are secret so there is a real knowledge gap among Chinese strategists. If they are misplaced, they are at least genuine in their concern - they have to assume a worst case scenario."

Officially, China says it objects to THAAD because it will destabilise the regional security balance.

Chinese officials have also expressed concern about the reported 2,000 km (1,200 mile) range of THAAD's powerful X-band radars, which can look deep into the mainland, rather than the system's shorter range interceptor missiles that can target North Korea's missiles.



Besides casting a shadow over U.S.-China ties, THAAD has also ruptured the relationship between Seoul and Beijing.

Chinese authorities have closed dozens of Lotte retail stores on the mainland after the South Korean conglomerate agreed to provide land for the missile defence system.

There has been a sharp decline in Chinese tourists going to South Korea, while South Korean singers and actors have been blocked in various ways from reaching a mainland Chinese audience, and dozens of Korean-focused blogs suspended in China.

NEVER TESTED

THAAD, never tested in a conflict and whose effectiveness is still questioned by some Western experts, is designed to intercept and destroy ballistic missiles late in flight, either just inside or outside the earth's atmosphere.

The range of its radars however can help the system cover missile and rocket launch sites deep in China's isolated northeast where the People's Liberation Army (PLA) tests its modern generation of long-range weapons, some Chinese experts fear.

China's nuclear deterrent is based around ensuring it has a credible "second strike" capability given its long-standing vow never to be the first to use a nuclear weapon in a conflict.

Beijing is rebuilding its arsenal of mobile intercontinental ballistic missiles, as well as a fleet of submarines capable of firing such weapons, to ensure the so-called "survivability" of that deterrent.

Some Chinese scientists fear that the THAAD radars are sophisticated enough to allow the United States to track tests and specific missile signatures, ultimately helping it better prepare to counter any future Chinese attack.

Li Bin, a security expert at Beijing's Tsinghua University, wrote recently that the THAAD radars would allow the U.S. military to obtain data on missiles that it could not get through other sources, clearly undermining China's nuclear strategy.

In another recent commentary, Li noted differing unofficial Chinese views over the range of THAAD's radars, a discrepancy he said pointed to a lack of knowledge.

Some experts have however stressed that the PLA has both hard and soft options for crippling the THAAD's radars, such as the use of laser weapons or, less provocatively, deception manoeuvres to confuse them.



Peng Guangqian, a strategist at the PLA Academy of Military Science, told the state-owned Global Times tabloid earlier this month that it was easy to "blind" the radars.

"We can also make THAAD useless through electronic interference and feigned military activities, because such activities can interrupt the functioning of the THAAD system."

Beyond debates over the THAAD's range, mainland strategists believe the system can be linked into a broader U.S.-led network of early warning radars, sensors and battle management systems in the region and tie in neigbouring nations into an alliance.



Yao Yunzhu, a retired PLA major general, warned a Shanghai conference last month that such a network ultimately targeted China.

And that, say experts outside China, lies at the core of Beijing's fears over THAAD - a South Korea tied ever more tightly to the U.S. and Japan, despite years of effort by Beijing to draw Seoul closer.

Former U.S. Defense Secretary William Perry told the conference that he believed that China's missile forces were large and sophisticated enough to be impossible to defend against, so THAAD need not be a concern to Beijing.

He did say, however, that it "conceivably could enhance" other missile/anti-missile systems in the region.

- Reuters

For me, should get awacs first to improve current fleet detection and communication effectiveness. Woulx be better if both platform can be combine with MPA making it a duall usage platform with funding from both RMAF and RMN

Then only new figther to further improved combat effectiveness

Transport need is already address by our fleet of c130 and a400.

The Royal Thai Army Plan To Replace AH-1F Cobra Attack Helicopters.



http://aagth1.blogspot.co.id/2017/04/blog-post.html

well Thai getting so many china military product, no surprising they buy again china military product due to value for money。

Words of wisdom from my general

Unlike sensitive keyboard warriors

http://www.defence24.com/570918,poland-is-...leopard-2-tanks

US and NATO networked escentric comm has been present before f35 exsist. Its base on link16 data network. The link 16 is available to anyone using European and US aircraft or ship. It is just a license UHF/VHF data transfer almost same like home WIFI. Having a F35 does not meant you don't need Awac/AEW aircraft. The advantage on F35 are its stealth only. Even SU30 radar can detect and scan further than a F35.

http://www.janes.com/article/69259/batam-s...nishment-tanker

This post has been edited by azriel: Apr 4 2017, 07:37 PM

the us sanctions on their military have forced them to look for replacements elsewhere

what us sanction

BREAKING (GRAPHIC): 100+ Dead, 400+ Injured After Chemical Gas Attack In Syria

On Tuesday, initial reports from activists in Syria said that an airstrike that gave off a “poisonous gas” hit the rebel-held city of Idlib, reportedly killing over 100 and injuring hundreds more. The victims are said to include dozens of women and children. The symptoms of those affected reportedly match those that would show with the use of sarin gas.

Activists blame the Syrian regime led by Syrian President Bashar al-Assad who has been accused of using chemical weapons on his own people in the past. International leaders have condemned the attack.

http://americanmilitarynews.com/2017/04/br...s-attack-syria/

New EC725 Cougar with Rocket Pods for the Indonesian Air Force at PT DI facility. Photo credit to Ardian.



https://www.instagram.com/p/BSdkrFSFArI/

Japanese 'Akizuki' class destroyer and "Oyashio" class submarine arrived in Sepanggar...


This post has been edited by patt_sue: Apr 5 2017, 09:03 AM