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butthead76
post Oct 16 2017, 05:37 PM

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Just took over wife avanza 1.5. Suspension bouncy as hell. Give me dizziness only.

I think either mod in stiffer shocks to try 1st, if fail then mod in stiffer spring. When I look at the latest model, the front coil spring rings is smaller and slightly thicker. Was consider if can fit the new coil spring and shocks from the latest model. Anyone know?
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post Oct 17 2017, 10:25 AM

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latest model original suspension more bouncy than the previous model , haha
i have both new and old avanza but not yet change suspension, accept the bouncy reality
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post Oct 17 2017, 04:50 PM

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Today managed to troubleshoot jerking feel when up and down gears on auto.
The culprit was fault code not cleared. Once you cleared it, will be fine, smooth gear change.

As for suspension, workshop confirm rear shocks too soft. So checking what shocks to use. Will update once I get it done.

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post Oct 19 2017, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(butthead76 @ Oct 17 2017, 04:50 PM)
Today managed to troubleshoot jerking feel when up and down gears on auto.
The culprit was fault code not cleared. Once you cleared it, will be fine, smooth gear change.

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bro, u go where to do this ? I only feel jerking when P to R finish parking start leaving the place or when N to D during traffic light. Is it same problem as your ?
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post Oct 20 2017, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(waiwai_wai @ Oct 19 2017, 06:32 PM)
bro, u go where to do this ? I only feel jerking when P to R finish parking start leaving the place or when N to D during traffic light. Is it same problem as your ?
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Nope. Mine is between gears. Try checking for any fault code and auto oil condition.

As for the bouncy suspension, I compared between old and new. The rear coil spring on old avanza less coil compared to new avanza. Both having similar cross section size. Means older version spring is stiffer. Hence, more damping required. Waiting for my workshop to hunt down better shocks for the rear. Once tested and works, will change out the front shocks too.
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post Oct 20 2017, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(butthead76 @ Oct 20 2017, 12:24 PM)
Nope. Mine is between gears. Try checking for any fault code and auto oil condition.

As for the bouncy suspension, I compared between old and new. The rear coil spring on old avanza less coil compared to new avanza. Both having similar cross section size. Means older version spring is stiffer. Hence, more damping required. Waiting for my workshop to hunt down better shocks for the rear. Once tested and works, will change out the front shocks too.
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No found any fault code

Look forward to wait for your good news for suspension biggrin.gif
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post Oct 20 2017, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(waiwai_wai @ Sep 5 2017, 12:01 PM)
so currently okay already ?
you pay 2 times ? how much the new 1 ?
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Not paid 2 times. More like paid for the 1st time then top up the difference between the recon and new compressor. Really sorry coz I don't remember the price already...but if I come across the bill again, will inform.

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post Oct 21 2017, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(waiwai_wai @ Oct 20 2017, 04:39 PM)
No found any fault code

Look forward to wait for your good news for suspension biggrin.gif
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Avanza old vs new suspension

If u see the old spring, less coils so stiffer compared to new spring more coils so softer.

If u see the old shocks top and bottom cylinder almost same length, the new shocks top cylinder longer then bottom. Means new shocks more damping liquid medium or gas inside cylinder. Also the new cylinder is slightly bigger. Roll bar on new avanza also slightly thicker.
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post Oct 21 2017, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(butthead76 @ Oct 21 2017, 10:31 AM)
Avanza old vs new suspension

If u see the old spring, less coils so stiffer compared to new spring more coils so softer.

If u see the old shocks top and bottom cylinder almost same length, the new shocks top cylinder longer then bottom. Means new shocks more damping liquid medium or gas inside cylinder. Also the new cylinder is slightly bigger. Roll bar on new avanza also slightly thicker.
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Sounds like new avanza more stable but i tried the new avanza, the engine performance improve alot but the bouncy feeling more worst rclxub.gif
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post Oct 21 2017, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(waiwai_wai @ Oct 21 2017, 01:07 PM)
Sounds like new avanza more stable but i tried the new avanza, the engine performance improve alot but the bouncy feeling more worst  rclxub.gif
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for me not bouncy the new avanza, solid suspension. just now I press the old avanza body down, so easily and bounced. new avanza hardly can press down, suspension is stiff.
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post Oct 21 2017, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(butthead76 @ Oct 21 2017, 02:00 PM)
for me not bouncy the new avanza, solid suspension. just now I press the old avanza body down, so easily and bounced. new avanza hardly can press down, suspension is stiff.
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if u are looking for avanza absorber
i csn recommend Kyb rs ultra the silver colour
at first i replace all 4 absorber to kyb excel g which is more or the same with the stock absorber. i was not very happy with it so i chg the rear two absorber to kyb rs ultra, it really settle down the rear by alot. 100percent better than stock and excel g.
but let me tell u, now the prob is the front, cuz i domt noe maybe the rear is more planted right now it mades the front more bouncy.
so im now saving some money to change the front too.
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post Oct 22 2017, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(butthead76 @ Oct 21 2017, 02:00 PM)
for me not bouncy the new avanza, solid suspension. just now I press the old avanza body down, so easily and bounced. new avanza hardly can press down, suspension is stiff.
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opps, i type wrong, not the bouncy, i means when over the bumper, the 3rd row passenger will jump/bounch very high, higher than old avanza
sit 3rd row damn headache
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post Oct 22 2017, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(iverice @ Oct 21 2017, 04:06 PM)
if u are looking for avanza absorber
i csn recommend Kyb rs ultra the silver colour
at first i replace all 4 absorber to kyb excel g which is more or the same with the stock absorber. i was not very happy with it so i chg the rear two absorber to kyb rs ultra, it really settle down the rear by alot. 100percent better than stock and excel g.
but let me tell u, now the prob is the front, cuz i domt noe maybe the rear is more planted right now it mades the front more bouncy.
so im now saving some money to change the front too.
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Thanks, I was thinking to try that too on rear. If works then will change the front shocks too. The front I was considering to change the entire setup like the new avanza, shocks, spring and top spring mount. Not sure how much. Probably get my workshop to check pricing.

How much for the KYB RS ultra for the rear?
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post Oct 22 2017, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(waiwai_wai @ Oct 22 2017, 02:24 PM)
opps, i type wrong, not the bouncy, i means when over the bumper, the 3rd row passenger will jump/bounch very high, higher than old avanza
sit 3rd row damn headache
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lol....reason because the coil spring is softer....that is why I am keeping my old avanza rear spring.
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post Oct 23 2017, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(butthead76 @ Oct 22 2017, 02:36 PM)
lol....reason because the coil spring is softer....that is why I am keeping my old avanza rear spring.
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yaya the old avanza rear spring nicer rclxms.gif
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post Oct 23 2017, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(butthead76 @ Oct 22 2017, 02:34 PM)
Thanks, I was thinking to try that too on rear. If works then will change the front shocks too. The front I was considering to change the entire setup like the new avanza, shocks, spring and top spring mount. Not sure how much. Probably get my workshop to check pricing.

How much for the KYB RS ultra for the rear?
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https://m.mudah.my/view?ad_id=44756685&
bro u can buy at here
im using these pair at the rear
now saving money to cjg the front too.
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post Oct 25 2017, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(iverice @ Oct 23 2017, 05:13 PM)
https://m.mudah.my/view?ad_id=44756685&
bro u can buy at here
im using these pair at the rear
now saving money to cjg the front too.
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I bought at Rm90 not inclusive of GST yet. The front was quoted rm148 not inclusive of GST yet.

Fitted the rear, OMG awesome. so much better handling, no more crazy bouncing feel. When took out the rear original to compared the size and dampening. Easily 2x more damping then the original. The size is slightly bigger. Now the front, me too saving up for front. Cost more for parts and labor too. Later will update the photo after fitting as a comparison.

I am running 195/60R15 tyres. Next year maybe 195/65R15 need better tyres. Currently on wet can feel not much grip.

RS Ultra vs Original Toyota Shocks

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post Oct 25 2017, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(butthead76 @ Oct 25 2017, 02:32 PM)
I bought at Rm90 not inclusive of GST yet. The front was quoted rm148 not inclusive of GST yet.

Fitted the rear, OMG awesome. so much better handling, no more crazy bouncing feel. When took out the rear original to compared the size and dampening. Easily 2x more damping then the original. The size is slightly bigger. Now the front, me too saving up for front. Cost more for parts and labor too. Later will update the photo after fitting as a comparison.

I am running 195/60R15 tyres. Next year maybe 195/65R15 need better tyres. Currently on wet can feel not much grip.

RS Ultra vs Original Toyota Shocks
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hey after u chg the front can u update me too at here?
now that u had the rear, do u feel the front is more bouncy like what im experiencing ?
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post Oct 26 2017, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(iverice @ Oct 25 2017, 05:13 PM)
hey after u chg the front can u update me too at here?
now that u had the rear, do u feel the front is more bouncy like what im experiencing ?
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nope, more stable at front now. Fuel tank full would be more stable. Once reach half tank, then front slightly more bounce.

my workshop recommended to swap out front coil springs, go chop shop look for matching size but better springs. but need time.
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post Oct 26 2017, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(iverice @ Oct 25 2017, 05:13 PM)
hey after u chg the front can u update me too at here?
now that u had the rear, do u feel the front is more bouncy like what im experiencing ?
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nope, more stable at front now. Fuel tank full would be more stable. Once reach half tank, then front slightly more bounce.

my workshop recommended to swap out front coil springs, go chop shop look for matching size but better springs. but need time.

Considering to put in those coil spring buffer silicon. I had it in my previous 4x4, slight improvements.

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