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post Jul 17 2017, 12:02 AM

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Good Deal from Gearbest:
Teclast X3 Plus 2 in 1 Tablet PC at $250 (rm1,100)
http://www.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_595133.html

not bad specs. does not come with keyboard.
Intel Celeron N3450, 6GB Ram, Storage 64GB, 11.6 inch FHD.

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post Jul 17 2017, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Jul 17 2017, 12:02 AM)
Good Deal from Gearbest:
Teclast X3 Plus 2 in 1 Tablet PC at $250 (rm1,100)
http://www.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_595133.html

not bad specs. does not come with keyboard.
Intel Celeron N3450, 6GB Ram, Storage 64GB, 11.6 inch FHD.

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lol if could waited last time sweat.gif .. tempted to sell mine (which belong to my son now) to get this instead laugh.gif
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Bro, wait for awhile if not in hurry and go for M3 hahaha...

i just notice... no power button? hmmmm

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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Jul 17 2017, 12:00 PM)
Bro, wait for awhile if not in hurry and go for M3 hahaha...

i just notice... no power button? hmmmm
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got, top left if you view at gearbest website.
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Can someone recommend me the best tablet for a typical student? I don't mind waiting weeks or a month if there's a new and better tablet.

I'll be using program such as SPSS, Microsoft Office, probably streaming movie as well in full HD 1080P minimum, browsing too. Preferably with USB port so I can plug in my mini mechanical keyboard. If possible, for general typing I'd still go for the normal keyboard associated with the tablet itself since no matter how mini my keyboard is, it's not convenient to carry it around. Budget RM1.5k.

I thought of Ipad 9.7" but not sure if it's the best choice since I have little knowledge about tablets.
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QUOTE(Nursh @ Jul 18 2017, 11:02 AM)
Can someone recommend me the best tablet for a typical student? I don't mind waiting weeks or a month if there's a new and better tablet.

I'll be using program such as SPSS, Microsoft Office, probably streaming movie as well in full HD 1080P minimum, browsing too. Preferably with USB port so I can plug in my mini mechanical keyboard. If possible, for general typing I'd still go for the normal keyboard associated with the tablet itself since no matter how mini my keyboard is, it's not convenient to carry it around. Budget RM1.5k.

I thought of Ipad 9.7" but not sure if it's the best choice since I have little knowledge about tablets.
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i don't think with budget 1.5K can get Ipad 9.7" ??? hmm.gif i am not too sure.

Aim for 10 to 12 incher Full HD, especially if you work with a lot of productivity software. higher than FHD is better when you can lay two document side by side and do editing and reference. considering a student lifestyle, best suite you would be the Tablet PC that is "Tablet First Laptop Later" which is like surface pro kind of device. i would recommend a local warranty device as a student, you probably need it daily and any downtime would be bad. China Tablets would have take a lot of time for warranty claim.

i would recommend this: https://www.joi.com.my/joi12/ it is priced about rm1,800 last i check and it comes with keyboard and big battery life its specs. You can go for Joi11 if you want to keep it below 1.5K or...

Teclast X98 Plus -rm900
Bluetooth keyboard case - rm69
http://www.teclast.com.my/ecomm/index.php?...t&product_id=97

a bundle that is less than 1K
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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Jul 18 2017, 03:01 PM)
i don't think with budget 1.5K can get Ipad 9.7" ???  hmm.gif  i am not too sure.

Aim for 10 to 12 incher Full HD, especially if you work with a lot of productivity software. higher than FHD is better when you can lay two document side by side and do editing and reference. considering a student lifestyle, best suite you would be the Tablet PC that is "Tablet First Laptop Later" which is like surface pro kind of device. i would recommend a local warranty device as a student, you probably need it daily and any downtime would be bad. China Tablets would have take a lot of time for warranty claim.

i would recommend this: https://www.joi.com.my/joi12/  it is priced about rm1,800 last i check and it comes with keyboard and big battery life its specs. You can go for Joi11 if you want to keep it below 1.5K or...

Teclast X98 Plus -rm900
Bluetooth keyboard  case - rm69
http://www.teclast.com.my/ecomm/index.php?...t&product_id=97

a bundle that is less than 1K
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this should be quite good within the budget.. and if you care about local warranty as well, else could try check on gearbest website to see the deals.

also, fyi Nursh ipad 9.7 starting price already RM 3000+ .. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(GameSky @ Jul 18 2017, 07:00 PM)
this should be quite good within the budget.. and if you care about local warranty as well, else could try check on gearbest website to see the deals.

also, fyi Nursh ipad 9.7 starting price already RM 3000+ .. sweat.gif
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I was actually referring to this one https://www.apple.com/my/ipad-9.7/
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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Jul 18 2017, 03:01 PM)
i don't think with budget 1.5K can get Ipad 9.7" ???  hmm.gif  i am not too sure.

Aim for 10 to 12 incher Full HD, especially if you work with a lot of productivity software. higher than FHD is better when you can lay two document side by side and do editing and reference. considering a student lifestyle, best suite you would be the Tablet PC that is "Tablet First Laptop Later" which is like surface pro kind of device. i would recommend a local warranty device as a student, you probably need it daily and any downtime would be bad. China Tablets would have take a lot of time for warranty claim.

i would recommend this: https://www.joi.com.my/joi12/  it is priced about rm1,800 last i check and it comes with keyboard and big battery life its specs. You can go for Joi11 if you want to keep it below 1.5K or...

Teclast X98 Plus -rm900
Bluetooth keyboard  case - rm69
http://www.teclast.com.my/ecomm/index.php?...t&product_id=97

a bundle that is less than 1K
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One question, will I be able to format the whole tablet to only run 1 OS which is Windows 10 in one partition? I'm thinking of saving some storage since I'll not be using Android OS.
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QUOTE(Nursh @ Jul 18 2017, 10:21 PM)
One question, will I be able to format the whole tablet to only run 1 OS which is Windows 10 in one partition? I'm thinking of saving some storage since I'll not be using Android OS.
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yes you can but i think it is troublesome and the android only takes us 2gb or 4gb. it might be good to keep an extra OS inside as a backup & pay a little more for a 64gb or 128gb microSD for extra memory space.

at least that is what i intended when i got my Chuwi Hi13 as 64gb is hardly enough. once i install most of applications and left with 20-30gb space.
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post Jul 19 2017, 12:42 PM

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Initial First Feel of Chuwi Hi13 keyboard.

i ordered the Chuwi Hi13 keyboard once i feel i have ownership of a functional Chuwi Hi13 without problems.

Ordered: Jul 10th
Arrived Jul 19th
Brought from Gearbest

i found out that they were delivering by Citylink Express and i heard that it is very slow/bad service by them. luckily it took them only 5 days. The packaging is impressive. it is wrapped in a thick air bubble with 1 cm of air on each side and is placed inside a well secured cardboard box.

the build quality is wonderful and key travel/button is so big that i am not used to it but i think this is a good thing and just need some getting used to it. The keys themselves are nice to type with some tactile feel without the huge feedback sound that comes with some cheap keyboard. i am used to have the home/pgup/pgdn/end button horizontally and they keyboard is a vertical ones, took some time getting used to them but they are very useful to have. the shortcuts button are on F1-F12 which serve from volume controls, brightness, settings? email, touchpad on/off, and three more i have no idea what they are. the metal feel on palm rest & its keys are a matte feeling.

you cannot open the laptop with one hand. the keyboard is not light, almost as heavy as the tablet portion. i guess this is because to even the weight so it does not tip over when in laptop mode. the keyboard doesn't add much to the thickess in comparison to normal laptop out there but it does add weight.

the top part of the keyboard is all metal and the touchpad feel smooth but the clicks of left & right of the touchpad need some strength and they are loud when they click. i don't think i be over to say that the build quality of the keyboard is better than the tablet. it has a auto function that when you put the cover down, the tablet will go into sleep mode.

the two USB 2.0 port on left and right of the keyboard serve very well and is very useful in this case. i find it helpful when i plug it in for mouse/ tiny thumbdrive (for extra storage space), or connect to my HP to charge or transfer files.

the keyboard is worth every penny and i wish they have backlit version or one with battery pack, would have pay a little extra for that.

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note: the bottom part of the keyboard feels REALLY REALLY GOOD. its like a smooth rubbery feel which i can molest the whole day. why they didn't use it for the top.

This post has been edited by chaosneo: Jul 19 2017, 12:46 PM
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post Jul 19 2017, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Jul 19 2017, 12:42 PM)
Initial First Feel of Chuwi Hi13 keyboard.

i ordered the Chuwi Hi13 keyboard once i feel i have ownership of a functional Chuwi Hi13 without problems.

Ordered: Jul 10th
Arrived Jul 19th
Brought from Gearbest

i found out that they were delivering by Citylink Express and i heard that it is very slow/bad service by them. luckily it took them only 5 days. The packaging is impressive. it is wrapped in a thick air bubble with 1 cm of air on each side and is placed inside a well secured cardboard box.

the build quality is wonderful and key travel/button is so big that i am not used to it but i think this is a good thing and just need some getting used to it. The keys themselves are nice to type with some tactile feel without the huge feedback sound that comes with some cheap keyboard. i am used to have the home/pgup/pgdn/end button horizontally and they keyboard is a vertical ones, took some time getting used to them but they are very useful to have. the shortcuts button are on F1-F12 which serve from volume controls, brightness, settings? email, touchpad on/off, and three more i have no idea what they are. the metal feel on palm rest & its keys are a matte feeling.

you cannot open the laptop with one hand. the keyboard is not light, almost as heavy as the tablet portion. i guess this is because to even the weight so it does not tip over when in laptop mode. the keyboard doesn't add much to the thickess in comparison to normal laptop out there but it does add weight.

the top part of the keyboard is all metal and the touchpad feel smooth but the clicks of left & right of the touchpad need some strength and they are loud when they click. i don't think i be over to say that the build quality of the keyboard is better than the tablet. it has a auto function that when you put the cover down, the tablet will go into sleep mode.

the two USB 2.0 port on left and right of the keyboard serve very well and is very useful in this case. i find it helpful when i plug it in for mouse/ tiny thumbdrive (for extra storage space), or connect to my HP to charge or transfer files.

the keyboard is worth every penny and i wish they have backlit version or one with battery pack, would have pay a little extra for that.

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note: the bottom part of the keyboard feels REALLY REALLY GOOD. its like a smooth rubbery feel which i can molest the whole day. why they didn't use it for the top.
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hows chuwi 13 overall? gooding?
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post Jul 19 2017, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Jul 19 2017, 12:42 PM)
Initial First Feel of Chuwi Hi13 keyboard.

i ordered the Chuwi Hi13 keyboard once i feel i have ownership of a functional Chuwi Hi13 without problems.

Ordered: Jul 10th
Arrived Jul 19th
Brought from Gearbest

i found out that they were delivering by Citylink Express and i heard that it is very slow/bad service by them. luckily it took them only 5 days. The packaging is impressive. it is wrapped in a thick air bubble with 1 cm of air on each side and is placed inside a well secured cardboard box.

the build quality is wonderful and key travel/button is so big that i am not used to it but i think this is a good thing and just need some getting used to it. The keys themselves are nice to type with some tactile feel without the huge feedback sound that comes with some cheap keyboard. i am used to have the home/pgup/pgdn/end button horizontally and they keyboard is a vertical ones, took some time getting used to them but they are very useful to have. the shortcuts button are on F1-F12 which serve from volume controls, brightness, settings? email, touchpad on/off, and three more i have no idea what they are. the metal feel on palm rest & its keys are a matte feeling.

you cannot open the laptop with one hand. the keyboard is not light, almost as heavy as the tablet portion. i guess this is because to even the weight so it does not tip over when in laptop mode. the keyboard doesn't add much to the thickess in comparison to normal laptop out there but it does add weight.

the top part of the keyboard is all metal and the touchpad feel smooth but the clicks of left & right of the touchpad need some strength and they are loud when they click. i don't think i be over to say that the build quality of the keyboard is better than the tablet. it has a auto function that when you put the cover down, the tablet will go into sleep mode.

the two USB 2.0 port on left and right of the keyboard serve very well and is very useful in this case. i find it helpful when i plug it in for mouse/ tiny thumbdrive (for extra storage space), or connect to my HP to charge or transfer files.

the keyboard is worth every penny and i wish they have backlit version or one with battery pack, would have pay a little extra for that.

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note: the bottom part of the keyboard feels REALLY REALLY GOOD. its like a smooth rubbery feel which i can molest the whole day. why they didn't use it for the top.
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The bottom rubber part i doubt later will b oily and easy stick dirt after long time usage, like those laptop build, early feel classy later really annoying to clean.

Still awaiting miix 320, neck extended 3 months dy

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post Jul 20 2017, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(GameSky @ Jul 19 2017, 07:11 PM)
hows chuwi 13 overall? gooding?
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better than i expected in terms of display real estate and what i can do with it. nowadays i always open two windows side by side, or video on one, or keeping track of files transfer or etc etc , anyway it made multi tasking way much better.

Coming from Core I5 3rd Gen CPU, i feel the limitations of Celeron N3450 & 3.4GB Ram. Chuwi engage with Microsoft and allocate 600mb to graphics so its technically a 3.4GB ram device and i think this affected daily performance when put under load but boosted game performance on the other hand. not sure if this tradeoff is good or bad.

daily task like productivity work & browsing is all good and smooth. using chrome can feel the limitations in comparison to Edge but all my sync are with chrome so i had to use it. i add a Chrome Extension "THE GREAT SUSPENDER" which freeze tabs that is not access for a time to free up resources. seems to work well when you have 10-15 tabs.

surprisingly for an EMMC, it feels almost like SSD despite having 60% slow performance than SSD.

originally i got it as a laptop replacement that has a versatility of a tablet which suits me well in this case.
i plan to write a simple user review after a month of using it.




QUOTE(PLAYEr @ Jul 19 2017, 07:32 PM)
The bottom rubber part i doubt later will b oily and easy stick dirt after long time usage, like those laptop build, early feel classy later really annoying to clean.

Still awaiting miix 320, neck extended 3 months dy
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Damn... but it feels so damn good. Metal & Matte feels... weird. i understand how Mac Book users feel now.

the only benefit that i can see from Mix 320 is having 128GB storage & better IO with two USB-A and one USB-C ?
other than that, the specs are just mediocre and using Atom X5 CPU which is not bad but i feel going into 2018, it might be just barely passable.

is there a reason for you to aim at this 10 inch FHD device?

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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Jul 20 2017, 09:34 AM)
better than i expected in terms of display real estate and what i can do with it. nowadays i always open two windows side by side, or video on one, or keeping track of files transfer or etc etc , anyway it made multi tasking way much better.

Coming from Core I5 3rd Gen CPU, i feel the limitations of Celeron N3450 & 3.4GB Ram. Chuwi engage with Microsoft and allocate 600mb to graphics so its technically a 3.4GB ram device and i think this affected daily performance when put under load but boosted game performance on the other hand. not sure if this tradeoff is good or bad.

daily task like productivity work & browsing is all good and smooth. using chrome can feel the limitations in comparison to Edge but all my sync are with chrome so i had to use it. i add a Chrome Extension "THE GREAT SUSPENDER" which freeze tabs that is not access for a time to free up resources. seems to work well when you have 10-15 tabs.

surprisingly for an EMMC, it feels almost like SSD despite having 60% slow performance than SSD.

originally i got it as a laptop replacement that has a versatility of a tablet which suits me well in this case.
i plan to write a simple user review after a month of using it.
Damn... but it feels so damn good. Metal & Matte feels... weird. i understand how Mac Book users feel now.

the only benefit that i can see from Mix 320 is having 128GB storage & better IO with two USB-A and one USB-C ?
other than that, the specs are just mediocre and using Atom X5 CPU which is not bad but i feel going into 2018, it might be just barely passable.

is there a reason for you to aim at this 10 inch FHD device?
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Simply mobility, im carrying 15.6' laptop daily now lenovo z510
Miix build quality to price is fine(as price 199usd include keyboard earlier mention, as i knw is all manufacturer delayed their 2017 release due to chips supplier delay
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QUOTE(PLAYEr @ Jul 20 2017, 09:38 AM)
Simply mobility, im carrying 15.6' laptop daily now lenovo z510
Miix build quality to price is fine(as price 199usd include keyboard earlier mention, as i knw is all manufacturer delayed their 2017 release due to chips supplier delay
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about the chip, i am not sure if Lenovo wants to release more of X5 Atom device considering that Intel (a possibility) might want to replace the atom lineup and not to mention that most of lenovo competition is going the Celeron way which might force Lenovo to adapt and change.

but for about rm880 that comes with keyboard, it is a good price.

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on another note, i feel nice tormenting & watching movies at 24watt (possibly lower) when i leave the device idle. which is probably way lower than Core i5 laptop and generate less heat as well.
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QUOTE(GameSky @ May 11 2017, 04:07 PM)
reformatted the stock windows partition, and reinstalled with my win 10 pro key.. now my tablet smooth as butter.

seems the default stock windows 10 macam something wrong, or entah apa those chinese manufacturer add in..always got cpu spikes.

now after clean format, no more spikes.
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how do you do this ?

Is it similar like in PC. Install and boot from thumb drive ?


Secondly is the price at gearbest is the cheapest and in usd ?
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Jumper EZpad 4s pro. Any opinion of this tab?
Need for spreadsheet and to control my dslr
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post Aug 9 2017, 04:22 PM

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the price is about rm600+ at Gearbest.

i wouldn't go with a few things is the CPU is one generation old and 4gb ram is just at the border but for that price is just averagingly alright.
but if you needed spreadsheet, i would recommend anything about 12 inch and at least FHD. it will go easy on your eyes and save you quite some scrolling and zoom in/zoom out.



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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Aug 9 2017, 04:22 PM)
the price is about rm600+ at Gearbest.

i wouldn't go with a few things is the CPU is one generation old and 4gb ram is just at the border but for that price is just averagingly alright.
but if you needed spreadsheet, i would recommend anything about 12 inch and at least FHD. it will go easy on your eyes and save you quite some scrolling and zoom in/zoom out.
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Thanks. But my budget is around that much for now. Hu

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