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AVFAN
post Jul 2 2020, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Jul 2 2020, 04:09 PM)
Actually everyday feel like going in. Yesterday all i heard is harta. Even seasoned one also pile in.

But i agree with you is that no meat not worth it. Usually anything above P/E 40 i consider no meat. Need to fork out so much risk to capture little gains.

But lately bursa casino is making me doubt myself. Time to learn the new normal maybe
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today, harta no shine; supermax was the star.

and i think tmr, can watch supermax again.

meat... i think the big gloves still have... their trailing p/e's high now but come aug 2Q reports, that will change.
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post Jul 5 2020, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Jul 5 2020, 01:47 PM)
nobody knows. laugh.gif

if someone knows, nobody will tell us too.

look at the chart, it broke previous high, is that a fakeout? is that a real breakout? I want to know too.  biggrin.gif
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"know"... biggrin.gif

only time travelers and demigods "know.

but really, all the indicators i see with my simple eyes do point to higher.

cimb gave it 9.80, ammb 10.40.... others expect 12, 14...

so, we will just see what we will see.

i personally find supermx a superb trading counter lately, hope it continues to kangaroo higher. tongue.gif
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post Jul 5 2020, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Jul 5 2020, 02:29 PM)
IBs are really giving them high prices ehhhh. I also feel like jumping in but the gain doesnt seem much compared to the risk one might anticipate  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

a lot of demigods in the market recently ehhh, and a lot more followers ehhh laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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oh no... most local IBs gave "low".

public bank on 26 june, just a week ago:
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Date: 26/06/2020
Source : PUBLIC BANK
Stock : HARTA Price Target : 11.10 | Price Call : HOLD

"hold 11.10"... harta went gangbusters to reach 16.00. biggrin.gif

maybank 30 june:
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Maybank IB share margin valuation 30 june.

Comfort @ RM3.42
Harta @ RM10.52
Kossan @RM7.87
Ruberex @ RM2.21
Supermx @ RM7.41
Topglov @ RM18.00

spot on for topglove but all the rest were beaten soundly.

only this aussie co. has been gungho, gave topglove rm30.4.
https://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/ptres/55915.jsp

the fans are cheering becos they expect the 2Q profits to be monstrous.
just take an average p/e, u get high TP's.
the sours are saying ponzi, collapsing, vaccines coming, war coming...
that's the fun of it... take yr pick! laugh.gif
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post Jul 5 2020, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 5 2020, 04:16 PM)
Based on current twelve months (or trailing 12 months) Superman eps is only 10.37 Sen.

Ok an eps of 10.37 is way, way to low.... maybe an estimate eps of between 20 to 30 sen is more acceptable....
BUT that bugger estimate eps is 90 sen wo...

90 sen.....

can understand how rocket the estimate is....  laugh.gif
But anyway..... market is hot.... lol..... anything bull also is usually accepted...
all people is interested is...........how much is the Target Price....
no one cares how the target price is derived......

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i agree kyy nos. are way too optimistic.
it's almost imaginary that anyone can simultaneously incr production, raise prices every month and command an exceptionally high p/e.
with no black swan event of any kind! biggrin.gif

supermax, now that it is at rm9.41, a lot of it is priced in, imo.
i can't see it passing rm11.
ok for me since i dived in when it was around 7.
just need to be mindful of the coming reversal.

but i think a lot people do understand how the TP's are derived.
just that in the heat and euphoria of things, they accept a higher TP more readily.
moreover, there aren't many sectors u can put yr money in these days in bursa - can't do construction, banks, developers, consumer, o&g...
just like in us markets - can't do airlines, hotels, banks, manufacturing, oil&gas... all $ end up in nasdaq, some counters with p/e's in the hundreds.
that's the nature of pandemic stock markets!

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post Jul 9 2020, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 3 2020, 12:21 PM)
just for the record ....

[attachmentid=10527247]

Red = Supermax

Blue = TopGlove

Green = Harta
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boon, u may want to update this tmr... biggrin.gif

i am amazed superman is now approaching rm11.90!
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post Jul 9 2020, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 9 2020, 04:57 PM)
July 3rd comparison chart...

user posted image

Current chart ... just taken...
user posted image
added in Kossan cos got complain... laugh.gif
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TQ.

V nice! rclxms.gif
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post Jul 14 2020, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 14 2020, 09:30 AM)
But anyway, as you can see, all road leads to the next QR profit report. This xxx is saying profit will jump 570% to 410 million.
Profits to increase close to 6 times!
This is a very high bar set.....
Very easy for Superman to miss the so called estimates.........................................
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yes, i noticed... he's changing as and when he sees fit... can't blame him... he'll say that's stock investment. biggrin.gif

the crux is this 1.64bil PAT arising from sustained $160 ASP.

it is quite a stretch, i dun buy it.

the gloves world is not static.
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post Jul 14 2020, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 14 2020, 10:48 AM)
ps... if you ever have the time to indulge in some fun past.... ( cos I realise I forgot that one of biggest funking post was on XingQuan! )

post #529 dated Jan 2016. LOL!

XingQuan (XQ) wanted to do a 50 million rights issue when XQ claimed it has 900 million cash on hand...  laugh.gif

post #534

'His' reasons for buying XQ! LOL!

Anyway, XQ continued to fall... and by Aug 2019, XQ was delisted    doh.gif
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something to remember! biggrin.gif
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post Jul 15 2020, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 15 2020, 07:38 AM)
Yes, there's the long shadow in the 30 min frame.

The question one should address is when to sell for a profit. Or is one trying to sell at the highest possible price?
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the sharp fall of the 7 counters yesterday.... there seems to be no complete explanation except possibilities below.
today, we will see the aftermath, will know better.

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Investment analysts were baffled by the share price trend.
Some experts suspected that algorithmic trading activities could be at play. Algorithmic trading is a method of executing orders using automated pre-programmed trading instructions that account for variables such as time, price, and volume.
Malacca Securities Sdn Bhd head of research Loui Low did not rule out the possibility that algorithmic trading activities could be involved.
Another possibility, he believed, could be that the glove counters had triggered the stop limit for various investors and brokers.
https://ceomorningbrief.theedgemalaysia.com...8/Home/2/521625

Moderna stock surges 17% on coronavirus vaccine trial news
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/moderna-s...news-2020-07-14

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post Jul 15 2020, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 15 2020, 09:24 AM)
... all i see is a lot of 'small' lots traded......

algo trading? Not convinced... but for me, as explained in earlier posting... it looked like the stock has climaxed for this leg.... and if I had it, I would have sold it for a profit without a blink of an eye...

just my 3 sen opinion...  and not any recommendation by a long, long shot.

GL
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after today's second round dive... ya, dun think it's any "algo" those fellas simply speculate.

i think just pure overbuying->profit taking, return to normalcy.

maybe things like supermen will be tamed for a while after today. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 15 2020, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 15 2020, 04:05 PM)
Look at the vertical climbing....  rclxub.gif
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+ gravestone doji = sell, sell, sell!! biggrin.gif
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post Jul 15 2020, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 15 2020, 04:20 PM)
LOL!... Yaloh... damn crazy stock... climbed crazier and faster pace than the glove stocks  rclxub.gif
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taikor, like to ask a favor from u as i m new to this...

if u can check today's hourly candlesticks for the top 4 gloves...

i see a flag formation for all of them... is this a bull or bear flag?

still under formation, possibly?

TQ! notworthy.gif
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post Jul 15 2020, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 15 2020, 06:31 PM)
It's neither. There is no pole. That long candle cannot be counted as a pole anyway....

However when the breakout happens, it indicates that the stock could go back up.

stock breakdowns....

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thanks for the comments.

we shall see then if the descending triangle becomes bearish or breakout to bull.

i think it will be bear... becos i sold off everything this morning! laugh.gif

another thing i think i saw is harta price has crossed below the 5 and 10 day MA; TG the 5 day but supermax not yet.

harta looks to get more losses if i see it right.


ok, we will go thru this again by end of day tmr.

TQ once again. notworthy.gif

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post Jul 16 2020, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 16 2020, 09:19 AM)
Break down and then gostan fly back up....  laugh.gif

See... pattern failures do happens...
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yep, looks like breakout to bull.

QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Jul 15 2020, 08:09 PM)
Well looks like I am gonna keep Harta for a while. At least it's a stock with great potential.
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game still on! thumbup.gif
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post Jul 16 2020, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 16 2020, 10:55 AM)
AVFAN

Ah.. I realise I made a mistake by suggesting that it was a pattern failure in the case of Superman...

This is because I was looking and basing my comment when I noticed the stock moved lower in the opening and then quickly reversing soon after that....

As can be seen in the 5 min frame how Superman traded....

The problem is that our initial discussion is based on the hourly frame...  and if I look at the hourly again... it was a simple case of the stock breaking out from a descending triangle.... (hence my comments oon 09:19 AM was UTTERLY GARBAGE! hehe... solly... solly... )

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today's charts will be distorted due to the news for TG - "detention by US for labor issues", like WRP previously.

will be a challenge to interpret them even by end of day. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 16 2020, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 16 2020, 02:07 PM)
Ahhhh... but then TopG has always got some sort of story ....
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come 3.30pm, we'll see what else will come.
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post Jul 16 2020, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 16 2020, 09:19 AM)
Break down and then gostan fly back up....  laugh.gif

See... pattern failures do happens...
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pattern may not be a failure after all!! laugh.gif

but for a diff reason.
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post Jul 16 2020, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 16 2020, 03:21 PM)
... dangling... if it fall... where the exit?

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cannot complete chart today.

bursa... siaran tergendala. laugh.gif
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post Jul 16 2020, 04:21 PM

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but can use this:

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/quote/BVA.SI/

TOP GLOVE... sgd6.7.. about rm20.50 or -8%.

20.50 is strong support line, i think.
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post Jul 16 2020, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 16 2020, 04:22 PM)
Does this mean... some 1 is trading when most platforms are down? Doesn't seem correct ....
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that is topglove SGX listing.

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