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squarepilot	Nov 5 2020, 08:37 AM Return to original view \| Post #41
Regular Senior Member 1,075 posts Joined: Apr 2010	Dear all traders here How and where do you park money if you are not trading Assuming you are staying in turkey and Lira just fallen more than 50% in 1 year, 100% in 3 years and 150% in 5 years? Do you hedge in gold or USD?
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squarepilot	Nov 8 2020, 10:05 AM Return to original view \| Post #42
Regular Senior Member 1,075 posts Joined: Apr 2010	Krono... hmmm... it's a hard stock to trade for me The only moment i will buy is on September 2016. And there is many insider who made early action before the quarter report is out (see Feb 2019). if I'm not fast enough (because the insider is faster than me). I rather stay sideway
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squarepilot	Nov 9 2020, 01:27 PM Return to original view \| Post #43
Regular Senior Member 1,075 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 9 2020, 08:49 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I would not be so gung ho and yes, it would be a much less risk if we see a much better QR performance. The stock did poorlrly in 2019 Q4 and then 2020 Q1, it was hit with huge losses. Q2 saw some profit recovery as it swung back to profit but revenue was poor. The recent China contract news did gave the stock a nice little kick as Krono moved up from 515 to currently 595. Hence, as you noted, a better QR would be better cos you would want to see more profit recovery in the next quarter and hopefully Krono see profit recover back up to 4mil + since as it is, profit is way too small... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « TA is helpful but we should try not to abuse... cos we do not want to end up trading in stocks just because the damn chart says so. well, you are right on this. price would be gap up. paper trade buy at opening price This post has been edited by squarepilot: Nov 9 2020, 01:29 PM
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squarepilot	Nov 10 2020, 12:35 PM Return to original view \| Post #44
Regular Senior Member 1,075 posts Joined: Apr 2010	Hi Boon, how about industrial Reits like Axis (KLSE) and Mapletree Industrial/Sabana (SGX) that doesnt rely on retail? It goes up because of speculation?
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squarepilot	Nov 15 2020, 03:12 PM Return to original view \| Post #45
Regular Senior Member 1,075 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 7 2020, 05:00 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Oh Kenanga platform and Krono (one of my old winner last time. ) 1) The buttons on top of the chart. The camera. It takes a snapshot of what you are looking at. (Fifth from the right) 2) It was on my watching list. The news broke out on the 2nd Nov. https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/kron...-contract-china It was around noon (if not mistaken and the edge article came out a couple of hours later) You can see it on the trade details of the 2nd... stock was drifting no where.... and then the news came out and pop went Krono (as a matter of fact, it started kicking some butt and pop went the tech leaders such as MPi and Unisem. 3) I will mark down the event on the chart ... The first arrow showed where how the stock turned around AFTER the news... (from (2) you can see punters/traders hitting up on the stock (reacting on the stock news) between 52 and 53) 4) Oh... notice how I switched off the S/R lines (it's the second button on the top left). Ok, this is my flawed practice. After years of testing, I do not believe in these Support/Resistance lines. Support/Resistance will always be broken. Same perspective with Oversold/Overbought. These things happen. Reacting to these indicators will BADLY effect my trades. Supports will always be broken. Today support and tomorrow support will likely not be the same if the stock is in a plunging 'motion'. Today's support can and will easily turn into tomorrow resistance. Same with overbought/oversold. Stocks can be rebound very quickly once it is oversold. But when shiit happens, stocks can be oversold for a long time. Buying them assuming they will rebound can badly impact the trade. Anyway... that's me. I just don't have and use such stuff. 5) It's hard to understand the Krono chart by looking at the 6 month time frame. So zooming out for another view, it's always useful. Looking at it the past 1 year ... You can see it collapsed.... so need to look back more... 6) The bigger picture You can also refer to this posting post #565 So the breakout was around Apr 2017.... the earnings although was smallish, it started picking up since then.... and then the stock soared .... it soared past 1. Since then, since hitting 1 buck .... the stock struggled.... many stale bulls .... 7) So this is where I would say Krono is .... In my opinion (which I could be wrong) , I feel that basically it's stuck in a range... the 50/60 sen range... (yes, recently the stock did broke out of this range but for me, the stale bulls are firmly in charge... and clearly they disposed on strength ...) a) So if I want to use breakout strategy ... I would want to see the return of recent Aug trading volume... I want to see better momentum built up... and I would prefer to see Krono trading above 75 sen... Yes, I would only consider trading it based on stronger volume and a much higher price.... (this is because I feel there are far too many stale bulls in the stock and because of the stale bull issue, I am skeptical and unsure what kind of running legs Krono possess currently ... ) b) The low ball strategy would require much patience.... wait for Krono to sink back to the low 50s.... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Kind of extreme... Such long reply for your simple Q.... LOL! EDIT: Remember to USE the save button and save whatever markings you made on the chart..... it's a useful practice. an update to krono
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squarepilot	Nov 17 2020, 10:12 AM Return to original view \| Post #46
Regular Senior Member 1,075 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 17 2020, 09:23 AM) p/s ..... I do not think I could got into such a trade... 1. I will be guessing when and at what price the stock would turn/reverse .... 2. Things are so pretty bad all around ... lots of small business suffering badly/closing .... layoffs... 3. Yeah... market is priced to future expectations.... I could be wrong but I strongly C19 has a long, long way to go...... hence recovery theme is so far fetch at current moment.... first we need to see actual decline of new cases and then we need to see businesses actually recover..... which I reckon is many, many moons away.... only way... I would be in such a trade is if I just jumped in and follow the herd blindly.... okay... time to find my spider .... agree on point 2 and point 3 but then the thought of FOMO kicks in When Actual decline of new cases and then we need to see businesses actually recover due to the support and speculation of traders and Institutional. price of stocks may already reach peak, or new peak
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squarepilot	Nov 17 2020, 11:23 AM Return to original view \| Post #47
Regular Senior Member 1,075 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(Suicidal Guy @ Nov 17 2020, 10:52 AM) Probably euphoria is starting for Covid19 beaten stocks.. next stage is realisation stage which will bring stocks down.. and then there will be real recovery.. That's what I think la.. with the fast movement due to technology and robo automated trading. i have some reservation on this
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squarepilot	Nov 24 2020, 08:43 AM Return to original view \| IPv6 \| Post #48
Regular Senior Member 1,075 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(Suicidal Guy @ Nov 18 2020, 11:17 AM) What has it got to do with technology? reduce emotion involvement in trading set parameter and et machine do the works
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squarepilot	Nov 29 2020, 01:54 PM Return to original view \| IPv6 \| Post #49
Regular Senior Member 1,075 posts Joined: Apr 2010	another 2010-2013 inflationary economy in the making?
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squarepilot	Dec 4 2020, 12:32 PM Return to original view \| IPv6 \| Post #50
Regular Senior Member 1,075 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 4 2020, 09:10 AM) Update of Bintai...... Oh my.. 3 white soldiers It's a bull market. Hentam anything chances of upside is close to 85 percent😂 This post has been edited by squarepilot: Dec 4 2020, 12:33 PM
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squarepilot	Dec 5 2020, 10:32 AM Return to original view \| Post #51
Regular Senior Member 1,075 posts Joined: Apr 2010	how effective of using moving average/SMA/EMA with so many different range and types? this stock shows many trader use SMA50 to trade?
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squarepilot	Dec 6 2020, 01:34 PM Return to original view \| Post #52
Regular Senior Member 1,075 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(Smurfs @ Dec 5 2020, 11:22 AM) Moving Averages(MA) presents a "smoothen" version of price's general direction, ie averages of stock prices. Some trader use MA as support / resistance. They sometimes act as support or resistance within a trend; and in some cases, they are similar to trend lines. The main difference between MA & trend line will be ; MA is calculated, trend line is drawn by human. If you ask 10 people to draw trend line, you might get 10 slightly different trend lines. But if you ask 10 people to generate MA on the chart, all 10 should arrive at the same result. Some trader use the "golden cross" & "death cross" to catch big moves. However, they produce really infrequent signal. And it is not foolproof too. Some trader see when the stock price crossed MA 50 line with volume commitment, they long the stock, this could be the case for OCK. They place a bet on possible directional change in the market. But to me Moving average (MA), be it SMA / EMA / LWMA, to me is still a laggard indicator. It can be use as REFERENCEs, but dont jump into trade because MA told you to do so. It didn't yield much results Cheers P/S In terms of sensitivity, LWMA > EMA > SMA. Sometimes too much signal can become interference, ie noises. Less is more. i was thinking a lagging indicator will be a confirmation sign for entry QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Dec 5 2020, 02:48 PM) For trading wise especially during shorter timeframe, how's VWAP consistency? I've been doing backtesting and couldn't see much of a use for me but many are adoring this particular indicator. A simple trend line is much more useful for me. Lol. Anyway, how's everybody doing? VWAP is monitored to ensure no last minute price manipulating before market closing. especial using candlestick, some joker can really push/pull the price right below closing to create a fake buy/sell signal once VWAP is not suspicious, ok to trade based on signal. i guess? This post has been edited by squarepilot: Dec 6 2020, 01:35 PM
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squarepilot	Dec 6 2020, 01:36 PM Return to original view \| Post #53
Regular Senior Member 1,075 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 5 2020, 01:19 PM) Lol!!! UWC already say too much. Yes, spot on. Such triangles are tricky. Bias is towards the downside. So atm, it's at no man's land. Watch that 3.8 level... or watch the breakout. This type of stock, cannot anticipate.. react is the better way. MI last quarter was a big turn off. On what circumstances it will upside breakout?
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squarepilot	Dec 9 2020, 12:39 AM Return to original view \| IPv6 \| Post #54
Regular Senior Member 1,075 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Dec 8 2020, 10:53 PM) Can also la, whichever that you think the upward momentum is intact, hentam and pray only I suggested 1. recovery - because of the recovery theme 2. plantation - because of the rising CPO price To me, most of the techs to me are a bit too pricy though Boon, not happy I slightly off topic in this thread is it I don't really trust recovery theme especial steel and hospitality counter which are still making loss I rather buy current fundemental intact company. You can trade based on fundemental. Nothing wrong with that... Although sometimes it will be very slow HereToLearn liked this post
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squarepilot	Dec 10 2020, 02:09 PM Return to original view \| IPv6 \| Post #55
Regular Senior Member 1,075 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Dec 9 2020, 09:10 AM) There are some steel counters out there making profits though Yes agree. But the outlook for construction in Malaysia is... Cloudy Can the chart tell you this? Doubt so HereToLearn liked this post
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squarepilot	Dec 14 2020, 01:22 PM Return to original view \| Post #56
Regular Senior Member 1,075 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 14 2020, 09:15 AM) Ah..... see how MI is doing right now ... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « It appears to be breaking down .... and if one had anticipate ... and went in as the early bird ..... classic!!! but watch out for another support at 3.70 This post has been edited by squarepilot: Dec 14 2020, 01:23 PM
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squarepilot	Dec 15 2020, 08:50 AM Return to original view \| Post #57
Regular Senior Member 1,075 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 15 2020, 08:46 AM) Chart of the day... why the support is drawn at 5.99??
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squarepilot	Dec 15 2020, 08:56 AM Return to original view \| Post #58
Regular Senior Member 1,075 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 15 2020, 08:55 AM) That wasn't the support line. I don't draw support lines. owh.. okay. i got you
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squarepilot	Dec 15 2020, 10:34 PM Return to original view \| IPv6 \| Post #59
Regular Senior Member 1,075 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 15 2020, 04:54 PM) that should be a dragonfly doji ..... Confirmation needed. Need a long green candlestick to verify this
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squarepilot	Jan 4 2021, 03:57 PM Return to original view \| IPv6 \| Post #60
Regular Senior Member 1,075 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 7 2020, 05:00 PM) Oh Kenanga platform and Krono (one of my old winner last time. ) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 1) The buttons on top of the chart. The camera. It takes a snapshot of what you are looking at. (Fifth from the right) 2) It was on my watching list. The news broke out on the 2nd Nov. https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/kron...-contract-china It was around noon (if not mistaken and the edge article came out a couple of hours later) You can see it on the trade details of the 2nd... stock was drifting no where.... and then the news came out and pop went Krono (as a matter of fact, it started kicking some butt and pop went the tech leaders such as MPi and Unisem. 3) I will mark down the event on the chart ... The first arrow showed where how the stock turned around AFTER the news... (from (2) you can see punters/traders hitting up on the stock (reacting on the stock news) between 52 and 53) 4) Oh... notice how I switched off the S/R lines (it's the second button on the top left). Ok, this is my flawed practice. After years of testing, I do not believe in these Support/Resistance lines. Support/Resistance will always be broken. Same perspective with Oversold/Overbought. These things happen. Reacting to these indicators will BADLY effect my trades. Supports will always be broken. Today support and tomorrow support will likely not be the same if the stock is in a plunging 'motion'. Today's support can and will easily turn into tomorrow resistance. Same with overbought/oversold. Stocks can be rebound very quickly once it is oversold. But when shiit happens, stocks can be oversold for a long time. Buying them assuming they will rebound can badly impact the trade. Anyway... that's me. I just don't have and use such stuff. 5) It's hard to understand the Krono chart by looking at the 6 month time frame. So zooming out for another view, it's always useful. Looking at it the past 1 year ... You can see it collapsed.... so need to look back more... 6) The bigger picture You can also refer to this posting post #565 So the breakout was around Apr 2017.... the earnings although was smallish, it started picking up since then.... and then the stock soared .... it soared past 1. Since then, since hitting 1 buck .... the stock struggled.... many stale bulls .... 7) So this is where I would say Krono is .... In my opinion (which I could be wrong) , I feel that basically it's stuck in a range... the 50/60 sen range... (yes, recently the stock did broke out of this range but for me, the stale bulls are firmly in charge... and clearly they disposed on strength ...) a) So if I want to use breakout strategy ... I would want to see the return of recent Aug trading volume... I want to see better momentum built up... and I would prefer to see Krono trading above 75 sen... Yes, I would only consider trading it based on stronger volume and a much higher price.... (this is because I feel there are far too many stale bulls in the stock and because of the stale bull issue, I am skeptical and unsure what kind of running legs Krono possess currently ... ) b) The low ball strategy would require much patience.... wait for Krono to sink back to the low 50s.... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Kind of extreme... Such long reply for your simple Q.... LOL! EDIT: Remember to USE the save button and save whatever markings you made on the chart..... it's a useful practice. Krono charts topping 75 sen soon This post has been edited by squarepilot: Jan 5 2021, 02:03 PM
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