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twhong_91
post Jun 10 2017, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 10 2017, 12:23 AM)
Haha! Me holding? You should know that I do not talk about what stocks I hold. tongue.gif

Selling at 32..... wink.gif
I understand many like to use this self half strategy....
I don't. laugh.gif

For example, 32 doesn't look like a selling point and for me, you are selling just for the sake of selling.
If I have this one.... I would probably just sit on it.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Yes. I wanted to take same profit first by selling half of my holding as people are too bullish with semicon.

i forsee this year will be an amazing year for frontkn after reading their qr, annual report and news but this stock is just going too fast imho which in turn got me nervous as a stock will go down for correction right?

By realised half of the profit, i felt much safer.

Mind to explain why u would just sit on it? Riding the uptrend?

Is it because of it breaking its new high days after days?

I remember of you saying if a stock breaks its high and create new high, one should hold? tongue.gif

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post Jun 10 2017, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 10 2017, 10:44 AM)
You will always need other bullish people.

Stocks are basically not kia cars. They no kaki kia. tongue.gif

Some check points.

1. Is valuation out of whack?
2. Any deep fundamental concerns/risks?
3. Stock technical sell indicators? ( I might be relax on this if the uptrend is rather solid )

Etc etc....

Always better to work on your own niche. Just don't sell for the sake of selling as this usually ends up with deep regrets of seeing stock multiplying after you sell. Good stocks don't come easily, so if we catch one and the future prospects remain  rosy, don't be afraid to hold on to it a bit longer. (Remember.. there is no rule that says the next stock you jump into will be as good.)

My 3 Sen la.... who knows your one might be better than mine one. laugh.gif
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I see but you have never shared yours wor boon. who knows yours is actually a better ones?' brows.gif

its always nice to read your comment here as i found it very useful and a good learning opportunity from you.

anyway, I switched my bullet to another potential gem.

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Outstanding Qr after Qr, PE is only 7.86.

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Chart is looking good, as selling pressure seems to be depleted and in a consolidated state before shooting up.

There is a potential 10% gain or higher if they have an outstanding Qr this coming August 2017.

twhong_91
post Jun 10 2017, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 10 2017, 06:17 PM)
But overall you roughly know my style.
Trade fewer stocks, fewer frequencies.

Switching tends to lead to careless mistakes. That's my observations. Maybe it's me. tongue.gif
The reason is one tends to find the urge to switch.
It's just pure impulse.
The stock they have sits on nice profit.
The urge to switch causes the trader to sell just in order to facilitate the trade switch..
The stock they switch to, ends 'early'... stock endures few months of uo and down, not going anywhere....
and the stock they switched from, shoots up another 50%.... sometimes even more.

Seen far too often.
It's also one my mistakes during my early paper trading years.....

I know, sometimes, holding on to the stock can be frustrating....
I once, endured a stock that was up close to 50%...
but somehow the stock...that blardee stock .... went into a much deeper correction that I had anticipated.... maybe I err-ed my technical assessment of the stock... and boy oh boy.... before you know it... I carried close to a 5% loss for the stock....
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Yeah.... shit happens....
However, luckily for me, my assessment of its future prospect was spot on.... and rest was history.... made close to a 2 bagger. whistling.gif
Luck I guess....
Now this new one....
this 'new gem'.... of yours....

your concern is the sustainability of its profits growth.
Basically it's a turnaround stock.
Profits are finally returning back to its glory years... 3 solid years of turning around... (you highlighted the strong uptrend in the stock)
So perhaps you might consider the risk of sustainability....
Can the earnings continue to grow?

In short... are you maybe a bit too late to play this one game?

Thanks for sharing anyway.....  :thumbsup:
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Thanks for sharing. Its indeed frustrating when your stock is stagnant but others are going up. Haha... the art of selling is really hard.

I reckon i should not have sold frontkn as its fundamental remains intacted. Will heed your advice. Initially i planned to hold it for a year but then i saw a blogger saying it is wise to take some profits if your stock is making some good returns which was the reason i sold half of frontkn.

Now the gem of mine, seems like you know this stock huh. Haha.

Yes the past year, the revenue was really impressive and sustainability will be a question as i really dont know whether they can sustain it.

However, i like the business model as i m in the sales industry and i know many people tend to lend money from licensed money lenders and majority of them are government servants.

The business model amazes me where they loan an amount of money to government servants and the payment method will be deducted every month automatically from the gross before transferring the balance to the lenders' bank account, which is known as angkasa loan.

This quarter is hari raya and i forsee the revenue will be increased as people do need to get some money right to spend on hari raya.

With the predicted increased revenue and secured trade receivables, low PE compared to Aeon. Why not give it a try right?

Aeon is not to my liking as they do have many bad debts where people dont pay back some installment. On the other hand, for this potential gem its repayment method is quite secured. Haha.






twhong_91
post Jun 10 2017, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 10 2017, 06:49 PM)
Ah.... 'listening to a blogger'.... tongue.gif

You should develop your own strength. Listening to others could mess you up (me included  cool2.gif  tongue.gif )

Anyway... it's past already. You took half profit already. What I would suggest is mark this one trade down into your 555 book for future reference. Keep track of your success and those not so successful. See where you can improve yourself.  icon_rolleyes.gif
hehe.... for stock whose earnings are growing (or turning around) , it's better to know what stage of the growth you are in. Growth do not last forever and usually after a robust growth period, growth tends to slows...... this is my general believe.
ps: anyway, your reasoning process is well thought out. well done and good luck to your new trade.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Ok boon gor. Lets see. tongue.gif
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post Jun 19 2017, 04:52 PM

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market is so damn red today. haha
twhong_91
post Jun 19 2017, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 19 2017, 05:06 PM)
Normal la. tongue.gif
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tongue.gif tongue.gif

twhong_91
post Jul 21 2017, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 20 2017, 04:35 PM)
twhong_91

See? 395 also got.
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Haha... mistake learnt. Was anticipating a 40c breakout but at least it went as high as 395. Holding tight till the next qr to decide whether to hold or sell.

Already 50% gains but i believe ppl who enter lower would earn much higher.

On that of that many investment banks started to cover it, tp 0.43 and 0.45?


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post Jul 24 2017, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 21 2017, 07:34 AM)
The important thing is that 'taking half profit' isn't really a solid strategy.
IF the reason to enter the trade was SOLID enough, selling half is simply throwing away something good.
The better option is just to sit tight.

I know such strategy is rather difficult to implement cos of the many temptations to either...

1. switch to other stock
2, trying to catch every single up and downs of the stock. ie sell at a 'high' and trying to catch it back when it falls to a 'low'.... ie the IN and OUT trader.
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So what do you do to not to be tempted by these temptations that you mentioned? Haha
twhong_91
post Jul 25 2017, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 25 2017, 07:35 AM)
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How do you resist real life temptations?

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Lol... wise words. Understand understand.
twhong_91
post Aug 3 2017, 10:18 PM

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This thread has gone to second page. haha

Boon

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is this an ascending triangle chart as well? haha or i force it to be?

i have noticed that whenever this stock gets high volume and close higher, the next day it always go down a few days or the next week, the volume spike up again and close higher.

any view on this chart? hmm.gif
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post Aug 3 2017, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(duplicated @ Aug 3 2017, 11:16 PM)
Long term bullish for me.
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brother u holding this?

chart looks good from me as well. brows.gif

wanna seek some opinions on this chart as im not a very good chart person. laugh.gif
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post Aug 4 2017, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 3 2017, 11:46 PM)
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It's ok la. I'm fine with it. Sometimes there's no need to post just for the sake of pasting, yes? tongue.gif

Nah, it looks macam yes but I think it's a no.
You need to connect the lows much better.

Interesting observation on the volume days....
but such stuff is tricky....
cos basically you are attempting to read what the hidden hand is trying to do....
sometimes we could catch it... but many times ... we could left looking like a fool... laugh.gif

For this one, things are looking good...
watch the 1.00 mark...
see if the stock punches thru with strong momentum....
GL
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guess i tried too hard for it to be ascending triangle laugh.gif

nice explain on the volume part, noted.

the volume was very high yesterday and it touched RM1 and goes down. I would prefer it to trade side way for awhile before breaking the RM1 mark again.

When stock goes up too quick, i manyak takut. tongue.gif

GL to me rclxm9.gif
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post Aug 4 2017, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 4 2017, 09:17 AM)
Overall, like I said things are looking good.

The sharp run in May would appear to be fully digested by now. Momentum has been picking up pace and you can clearly see the higher lows since then....
all in which is a good indicator that the stock should move up higher....

The thing about it and the reading of the volume pattern is that these chicken farm owners... they like they got their own kung fu gang... sometimes scary ... which is why I caution about trying too hard to decipher the pattern and the risk involved...

somehow... all these while... I never traded a chicken fella before... laugh.gif
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but boon, like u mentioned before higher highs are important as well. this higher lows i dont understand, is it healthy from the chart perspective if there are some higher lows? and closes back the lows few days after just like this CCK?

i do understand that a share will of course go up and down. think i will try to study a few charts tonight.

kung fu gang means the bosses in the same industry right? the MD might give out tipsy to the kung fu gang members?

tis is the first time i traded a chicken fella laugh.gif

hopefully the earning for this quarter is good then i can sleep well at night. rolleyes.gif

and it does really gives me confident when the company bought back its own shares at 0.85 to 0.87 levels.

its integrated supply chain, where they own some share in Goldcoin (feed mill) company, supply and selling its end-products at its retail outlets. the business in indonesia, and also the export of shrimp and fish (if not mistaken) to overseas.


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post Aug 4 2017, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 4 2017, 10:01 AM)
Higher lows when the stock is consolidating is a good indicator.

kung fu gang... lol.... yeah it's confusing.

Chicken/poultry stocks is known to be goreng stocks.....
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Noted noted. Then i will just follow to make some fried chicken. Haha

QUOTE(PabloTH @ Aug 4 2017, 12:10 PM)
next quarter poultry stocks especially egg producer will suffer. my wife was boasting how cheap eggs were since last month
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I did ask one egg whosaler before. Lower prices of eggs actually benefit them as profit margin will be higher.

QUOTE(duplicated @ Aug 4 2017, 04:29 PM)
No, I am not. I am just analysing from the technical analysis perspective.
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Ok bro. But today closed flat after hitting 1.05. Lol
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post Aug 5 2017, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(johnnyzai89 @ Aug 4 2017, 07:43 PM)
CCK today breached rm1 and dropped back to close unchanged at .975

candlestick wise this shows a sign of weakness right?

power tak kuat enough sad.gif
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this is what i was talking about, high volumes coupled with break out but the next day always laosai tongue.gif
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post Aug 7 2017, 11:27 PM

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Boon3 mind to commend abit on frontkn? sweat.gif

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post Aug 8 2017, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 8 2017, 09:01 AM)
It's just one of them 'smelly' trades....

If I were holding since 20sen+ ... I would have exited yesterday.
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Should be the syndicate sold off and retailers all jump in to sell which caused it to touched 0.275 sad.gif

Anyhow managed to run at 0.34. Lesser gain but still a gain and learnt something new from this trade.

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post Aug 8 2017, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 8 2017, 11:44 AM)
Good exit !!!!!

I would say you trade it pretty well. The sell off started yesterday at exactly 4pm. Selling was just so fast and there was nothing one could have done. After hitting limit down , it rebounded till about 35 or so. Around 34 ... that would be correct.

This is just unfortunate that it collapsed just like that. If i was in the trade, my selling point too would have been around 34.

This collapse dragging down a lot of penny stocks. LOL!

Some really silly panic selling....as usual. tongue.gif
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The very dark side of stock market. The announcement was unclear as well as it does not stated whether the directors are buying or selling. Kek..

Any tipsy bo boon? Have some cash on hands now. Haha

Many stocks down today due to the delay in payment from 1mdb.. sudah so long still haunting us. Really kns!
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post Aug 8 2017, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 8 2017, 06:31 PM)
Trader with cash on hand... lol .... that's always risky... very risky..... tongue.gif
See this one article I posted spammed b4.... lol

see post #934
but seriously.... if nothing to buy.... let it be... stay with cash on hand first..... no crime one.... lol

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tapi hand itchy itchy tongue.gif

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looks like my chicken has been frying quite good. broke RM1 and closed at 1.03



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post Aug 10 2017, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 9 2017, 09:19 AM)
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Why wasn't it difficult to have guessed it? whistling.gif
GL la... like I said the first time... things are looking good.
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take profit at 1.07 tongue.gif

waiting to enter when it drops again.

expecting a good quarter this month.

lets see

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