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post Aug 29 2020, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(djandrew @ Aug 25 2020, 05:01 PM)
A300 also same dont have subwoofer output jack no matter how u pump it the certain Lows' frequency sure loose to the S360db 8 inch woofer elastic bass..but mids and high super satisfying
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I can attest to this having own the A300 and comparing with my old Aego M. The A300 bass doesn't go as low as from a subwoofer, but it is so much tighter and isn't muddy like from the Aego M. I do think the 360DB sub is superior to the Aego M.

Needless to mention about the mids and high, I'm so shocked of the clarity.
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post Sep 18 2020, 10:02 AM

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Hi, i'm very new here and dont know much about audio, unexpectedly got a apair of A300, yesterday.

Between amplifier(Yamaha WXA-50) and preamp(WXC-50), which one is better for a300 to connect to?
kevinlim001
post Sep 18 2020, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(Jester83 @ Sep 18 2020, 10:02 AM)
Hi, i'm very new here and dont know much about audio, unexpectedly got  a apair of A300, yesterday.

Between amplifier(Yamaha WXA-50) and preamp(WXC-50), which one is better for a300 to connect to?
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both will actually work for you. Your A300 is a active bookshelf, you do not need external amp to drive it. You just need a line input then the speaker internal amp will amplify the signal.

Depends on how you want to play it.
WXA is an integrated amp (preamp + amp). If you are planning to upgrade to a passive bookshelf you can get WXA. The next time when you have a new speaker you do not need to get another amp.

If you want to have a dedicated preamp (which only focus on signal processing) - you can get WXC. Make sure you are plugging into AUX out not pre-out else you are just wasting your preamp. If you like this audio quality coming from this preamp you can keep it and get a WXA/other amp next time when you are moving to passive speakers

Lastly, i think you know that your A300 will work with direct connection to your media source with or without WXC or WXA icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Jester83 @ Sep 18 2020, 10:02 AM)
Hi, i'm very new here and dont know much about audio, unexpectedly got  a apair of A300, yesterday.

Between amplifier(Yamaha WXA-50) and preamp(WXC-50), which one is better for a300 to connect to?
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Nice speaker rclxms.gif

Like kevinlim001 said, A300 is with built in amp, you can't use external amp to power it. And it even have USB input if you want to connect it directly with pc/laptop/tablet/handphone in addition to other normal input such as RCA, optical, and bluetooth.
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post Sep 21 2020, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Sep 18 2020, 10:17 AM)
both will actually work for you. Your A300 is a active bookshelf, you do not need external amp to drive it. You just need a line input then the speaker internal amp will amplify the signal.

Depends on how you want to play it.
WXA is an integrated amp (preamp + amp). If you are planning to upgrade to a passive bookshelf you can get WXA. The next time when you have a new speaker you do not need to get another amp.

If you want to have a dedicated preamp (which only focus on signal processing) - you can get WXC. Make sure you are plugging into AUX out not pre-out else you are just wasting your preamp. If you like this audio quality coming from this preamp you can keep it and get a WXA/other amp next time when you are moving to passive speakers

Lastly, i think you know that your A300 will work with direct connection to your media source with or without WXC or WXA  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Oooo Ok thanks brother @kevinlim001 , now i understand.

For time being, i think i dont need to add Amp or preamp.. get used with this speaker first, in these 2,3 days, testing the speaker sound, it really good (for me), clear voices even when volume very low, and the bass also nice, and can be loud (if we want to),,

sometimes i got a headache after listening to music with heavy bass.. (-**-)

For now, i connect to my laptop/workstation via USB.


btw, between USB connection and Bluetooth Connection, which one is better (in terms of quality)



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post Sep 21 2020, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(Jester83 @ Sep 21 2020, 11:31 PM)
Oooo Ok thanks brother @kevinlim001 , now i understand.

For time being, i think i dont need to add Amp or preamp.. get used with this speaker first, in these 2,3 days, testing the speaker sound, it really good (for me), clear voices even when volume very low, and the bass also nice, and can be loud (if we want to),,

sometimes i got a headache after listening to music with heavy bass.. (-**-)

For now, i connect to my laptop/workstation via USB.
btw, between USB connection and Bluetooth Connection, which one is better (in terms of quality)
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USB anytime over bluetooth. Bluetooth is compressed format but nowadays it's so good most people don't notice the difference. laugh.gif
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post Sep 22 2020, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(power911 @ Sep 21 2020, 11:53 PM)
USB anytime over bluetooth. Bluetooth is compressed format but nowadays it's so good most people don't notice the difference. laugh.gif
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Oooo.. ok understand...

At first, I thought maybe quality is same because it use aptX..


[/B]What is aptX technology?
aptX is a proven technology that compresses and then decompresses audio as it travels from a source device like a phone, to a receiving device like a wireless speaker, in a way that it can be transmitted over Bluetooth without damaging the quality. This ensures that you get the very most from your audio[B]
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QUOTE(Jester83 @ Sep 22 2020, 12:01 AM)
Oooo.. ok understand...

At first, I thought maybe quality is same because it use aptX..
[/B]What is aptX technology?
aptX is a proven technology that compresses and then decompresses audio as it travels from a source device like a phone, to a receiving device like a wireless speaker, in a way that it can be transmitted over Bluetooth without damaging the quality. This ensures that you get the very most from your audio[B]
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its not the same beside there is an upgraded version aptX HD. This promised to deliver 24bits/48khz

the problem with Bluetooth, it will compress your audio before it reaches your DAC in your speaker for signal processing. Signal degradation may happen during the process.

Connection with usb will send the audio codec directly into the speaker DAC for it to process without compression. As long as the audio codec is readable/supported by your speaker DAC then it will work.

In short at this moment USB is preferable over APTX HD, if you own a decent soundcard then you can try to let the soundcard do the processing work and send signal thru RCA directly to your speaker AMP by passing DAC. See if you can tell the different between two. nod.gif
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post Sep 22 2020, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Sep 22 2020, 08:43 AM)
In short at this moment USB is preferable over APTX HD, if you own a decent soundcard then you can try to let the soundcard do the processing work and send signal thru RCA directly to your speaker AMP by passing DAC. See if you can tell the different between two. nod.gif
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Agree with everything you say. The USB can be permanently plugged into your PC for prolong listening, better quality than Bluetooth and PC stock sound card. Heck I think the A300 DAC is better than Schiit Modi 2 DAC.

I plugged into my Xiaomi MiBox Android TV box. It isn't bit-perfect but I can't tell difference listening to my FLAC collection, and definitely no difference listening from Spotify.

I do use the AptX Bluetooth for quick music listening from Android phone + Spotify App as it is really convenient.

I really glad I got this instead of going to the traditional Amp + Passive route.
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Sep 22 2020, 08:43 AM)
its not the same beside there is an upgraded version aptX HD. This promised to deliver 24bits/48khz

the problem with Bluetooth, it will compress your audio before it reaches your DAC in your speaker for signal processing. Signal degradation may happen during the process.

Connection with usb will send the audio codec directly into the speaker DAC for it to process without compression. As long as the audio codec is readable/supported by your speaker DAC then it will work. 

In short at this moment USB is preferable over APTX HD, if you own a decent soundcard then you can try to let the soundcard do the processing work and send signal thru RCA directly to your speaker AMP by passing DAC. See if you can tell the different between two. nod.gif
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Hi!

I am thinking to buy airpulse a300pro.
You think i should connect the speakers to my dac with RCA over connect speakers directly to pc with USB cable?
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post Sep 24 2020, 05:44 AM

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QUOTE(Shizuo Heiwajima @ Sep 24 2020, 01:59 AM)
Hi!

I am thinking to buy airpulse a300pro.
You think i should connect the speakers to my dac with RCA over connect speakers directly to pc with USB cable?
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if you already have a dac then try both method and see if you can tell any diff. If you have a good dac i will run it thru dac and rca it to speaker. I dont think A300 is having a good dac but certainly better than those on board soundchip.
what dac u r using?
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Spec of A300 Pro




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post Sep 25 2020, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Sep 24 2020, 05:44 AM)
if you already have a dac then try both method and see if you can tell any diff. If you have a good dac i will run it thru dac and rca it to speaker. I dont think A300 is having a good dac but certainly better than those on board soundchip.
what dac u r using?
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I use a klipsch heritage amp that i bought with klipsch heritage hp-3.
Right now i use this dac with airpulse a200, but i will buy airpulse a300pro. However a300pro has usb connection, so i don't know if i should use usb connection or connect the speakers with RCA to the dac!
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QUOTE(djandrew @ Aug 25 2020, 05:01 PM)
my bet is that just for comparison i simply choose the edifier T5 subwoofer because very similar to S360db (S360db subwoofer 75w, T5 subwoofer 70w)

A80 + Edifier T5 subwoofer = (low/mids/highs) sure beat S360db (add up cost around rm2600 +/-)

A100 + Edifier T5 subwoofer = (low/mids/high) sure win S360db (add up cost around rm3400 +/-)

A200 dont have subwoofer output (unless u bypass through another middle source/amp with sub output), so around 40hz to 50hz low probably will loose to S360DB but mids and high sure handles better more clear

A300 also same dont have subwoofer output jack no matter how u pump it the certain Lows' frequency sure loose to the S360db 8 inch woofer elastic bass..but mids and high super satisfying
By the way A80 & A100 seems like the main difference is the mid woofer driver design/size, A80 woofer build is overhung design, A100 woofer is underhung design (as well as A200/A300 woofer also is underhung) underhung speakers build cost more expensive than overhung. A80 & A100 horn ribbon tweeters were exactly the same type, wattage also same which is 10w, same as woofer also both is 40w. A80 is 4.5 inch woofer driver where else A100 is slightly larger 5 inch driver...
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wow thanks for the listing of comparison/details.

i am also contemplating/aiming for an air pulse + sub woofer setup. your post is definitely of great help thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Shizuo Heiwajima @ Sep 25 2020, 01:37 AM)
I use a klipsch heritage amp that i bought with klipsch heritage  hp-3.
Right now i use this dac with airpulse a200, but i will buy airpulse a300pro. However a300pro has usb connection, so i don't know if i should use usb connection or connect the speakers with RCA to the dac!
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i cant tell you for sure bro.. you gonna test it our urself. no harm right? You already got the dac and when you are going to have the A300 pro just try both method and see which 1 sound better for you. Both way will work its just matter of your preference.
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post Sep 25 2020, 07:28 AM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Sep 25 2020, 06:30 AM)
i cant tell you for sure bro.. you gonna test it our urself. no harm right? You already got the dac and when you are going to have the A300 pro just try both method and see which 1 sound better for you. Both way will work its just matter of your preference.
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Thank you for your attention!
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QUOTE(Shizuo Heiwajima @ Sep 25 2020, 07:28 AM)
Thank you for your attention!
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let us know bro.. and remember to connect to A300 using the rca line out
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 25 2020, 01:52 AM)
wow thanks for the listing of comparison/details.

i am also contemplating/aiming for an air pulse + sub woofer setup. your post is definitely of great help thumbup.gif
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hey bro, i bought airpulse A100 already and a Yamaha 10 inch subwoofer model NS-SW300 (rm1400), the sound is very great very matching crossover slope!

at the subwoofer High-cut i set to 70hz and volume knob at about 10:30 o'clock position.

if can don't get 12 inch sub for these A100 speakers might have a sound hole or over powered it because A100 i tested in my room (my room is small about 6 x 8 meters) and i do a bass frequency sweep test, about 80hz start and below the A100 bass starts to drop already, listening by ears, but it also depends on your listening position because my position is middle of room, if ur listening position is at the end of the wall then it is very audible bass even around 70hz it will be shallow but audible....

i simply use this youtube sample for bass sweep test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ6Hc3zH5KE

even though the specs written is 52hz - 40khz but in real scenario for my case my room listening it starts about 75hz and bove is more audible (can feel the sound), and my subwoofer starts to kick in louder around 83hz and below, by my ears listening close...... i believe my room is consider very small already if your room is bigger A100 gonna be more loud audible maybe around 80hz and above (mileage might be vary depends on your listening position and subwoofer placement).

i set all the volume is very balance almost can't feel the subwoofer is there when listening music but can feels the vibrations overall from my seats, it feels like the bass is coming out from the both channel of the A100, i prefer like this, if volume up the sub abit higher can feel too much bass coming from that subwoofer direction covering the A100 speakers.

ignore my messy room stuffs tongue.gif
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QUOTE(djandrew @ Sep 25 2020, 11:42 AM)
hey bro, i bought airpulse A100 already and a Yamaha 10 inch subwoofer model NS-SW300 (rm1400), the sound is very great very matching crossover slope!
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Sep 25 2020, 07:55 AM)
let us know bro.. and remember to connect to A300 using the rca line out
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No problem, but airpulse will send me the speakers only in november.

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