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post Jul 4 2025, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(respectmypm @ Jul 2 2025, 02:20 PM)
Hi sifu. i want to build a pc. please comment if this list is balance or not. planning to hold onto it for next 10 years or unill it kaput. thank you.

cpu: ryzen 7 7700

ram: kingston fury beast 16gbx2 ddr5

mobo: msi b850m mortar

psu: corsair rm750e

ssd: kingston kc3000 1tb

case: lian li lancool 207

cpu fan: thermalright peerless assassin 120

gpu: sapphire rx9060xt 16gb
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post Jul 7 2025, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(pandah @ Jul 7 2025, 04:46 PM)
Hello sifus,

looking for some advice regarding new pc, got a sample quote at idealtech pc builder website, not sure if anything missing that should be added?

is the setup ok or any parts should be replaced?

the pc will be for document works, some cad design, clips edit, some games (not heavy), should we consider intel/nvidia instead?

AMD Ryzen Processor: AMD RYZEN 5 7600 | RM 839
Motherboard (AMD): MSI B650M GAMING PLUS WIFI | RM 799
RAM: KINGSTON FURY Beast RGB EXPO 32GB  6000MHz DDR5 CL36 KF560C36BBEAK2-32 | RM 676
Graphic Card: Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon RX9060XT Gaming OC 16GB DDR6 | RM 1799
PowerSupplyUnit (PSU): LIAN LI EDGE EG750 BLACK 80 PLUS GOLD - ATX 3.1 | RM 469
Case: LIANLI LANCOOL 207 ARGB Black | RM 339
SSD: Kingston KC3000 PCIE 4.0 NVME SSD SKC3000S 1TB | RM 499

Total: RM 5640
Discount: RM 220
Grand Total: RM 5420
Thanks for your valuable input
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Parts look awfully overpriced though sweat.gif
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post Jul 7 2025, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(xerofear @ Jul 5 2025, 03:03 PM)
Hi sifus here, currently existing PC dying (using halfway and suddenly freeze) and in the market to look to build my next one. Appreciate if can recommend base on below criteria:

Budget: Around 3k
Re-used parts: Keyboard, mouse, monitor, speaker, wifi card. (Not sure can re-use: PSU, SSD, HDD)
Purpose of PC: Mainly for work (AutoCAD, light video editing), light gaming (Star Rail, Genshin)
Preferences: No RGB, case with small footprint (thinking iTX)

TLDR, need a work PC with as little fuss as possible.

Many thanks!!
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Have you considered mATX? It's quite a bit cheaper than ITX (and not much smaller than ITX), especially when it comes to mainboard pricing icon_idea.gif

Your usage tends to favor good single threaded performance, so I'd go with AMD:

Ryzen 5 7500F (with cooler) - RM570
MSI B650M Gaming Plus WiFi - RM558
2x16GB DDR5 6000CL30 RAM (HyperX Fury Beast) - RM467
Kingston KC3000 1TB SSD - RM356
Inno3D RTX 3050 6GB Twin X2 - RM685
Jonsbo C6 case - RM129
1st Player SFX 650W PSU - RM373

Total: RM3138

Use NVENC for your video editing workloads icon_idea.gif

Tip: you might want to check with your local brick and mortar PC stores - there's a possibility that you may get better prices than online retailers icon_idea.gif

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post Jul 9 2025, 06:14 AM

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QUOTE(aloy5415 @ Jul 8 2025, 12:13 PM)
Hi Sifus. My dad wanted a new PC, replacing his old Celeron and i3 (Haswell) pre-build by Acer. He wanted a PC with GPU that can run Adobe applications such as Photoshop and Illustrator.

Can you guys suggest a build for that? His budget is <2100 without a monitor and other peripherals.

And maybe I will buy it at C-Zone Digital Mall, PJ.

What to buy:

CPU
m-ATX MOBO
m-ATX Casing
16GB RAM
GPU
PSU
M.2 1TB
<what else?>

Thanks!
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Budget way too low, and if you are willing to go MacOS the M4 Mac Mini is actually quite a good deal (it's not much more than that budget) icon_idea.gif

The M4 is a much more efficient SoC than most x86 chips especially in terms of single threaded efficiency, and they are a good fit for content creation workloads icon_idea.gif

You do, however need to deal with expensive storage/memory upgrade prices sweat.gif
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post Jul 13 2025, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 9 2025, 11:48 AM)
Mac, the ultimate BS proprietary hardware conjob of the century which actually got better when they went Intel route with self replaceable CPU, GPU, RAM & storage. Now back to their BS proprietary hardware route but this time charging you both kidneys just for a factory storage upgrade


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You do, however need to deal with expensive storage/memory upgrade prices


Self replaceable/upgradeable hardware means very little for most people on the Mac ecosystem especially when you consider that Apple Silicon will happily thrashes most x86 machines in terms of perf/watt sweat.gif
For them, it's a reasonable compromise (might not suit you, but most people are more than happy to trade that away) icon_idea.gif
Modern Intel/AMD chips aren't even on the same tier as the old M1, mind you sweat.gif
I know power efficiency isn't too much of an issue on desktops, but you get the idea icon_idea.gif

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post Jul 13 2025, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jul 13 2025, 09:33 AM)
RM3k for GPU only? Get RX 9070 16GB after 8pm tomorrow. Do you have any apps that needs GPU acceleration? This one will need Nvidia if it does. I know i5-12400 can handle videos. You just have to enable igpu (or multi-monitor) in the BIOS.

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https://www.techpowerup.com/review/powercol...llhound/34.html
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Heads up, there's an ASUS RX9070 for RM2839 for sale on Shopee icon_idea.gif

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post Jul 15 2025, 06:10 PM

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post Jul 15 2025, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 13 2025, 08:42 PM)
Colorful 5070 daily pricing is about there. At 1440P 5070 is slightly faster too. So its either go for higher VRAMS or better features (RT, DLSS4, MFG, DLAA, streaming, encoding CUDA)
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Nice, that's a really good value card icon_idea.gif
Shame about the 12GB VRAM though, especially when you consider that the card is really perfect with 16GB VRAM (hopefully the upcoming 5070 Super can remedy this, assuming they get the price point right) icon_idea.gif
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post Jul 26 2025, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jul 24 2025, 11:52 AM)
Got 12400 videos with b580 on YouTube. Overhead can happen on CPU demanding games like Monster hunter wilds. most modern games these days

RX 9060 XT 16GB deletes everyone.
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Fixed that for you icon_idea.gif

Even slightly older titles can eat up CPU cycles like no tomorrow - I just finished Wild Hearts and I was surprised how CPU demanding this game is despite the age sweat.gif
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post Jul 27 2025, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(brenleekw @ Jul 26 2025, 06:29 PM)
Hi guys, looking for some advice on the following build. Main purpose of the PC would be gaming at 1440p high/max settings for at least a good couple of years (of course lowering settings as games get more demanding).

Was quoted the below build and besides the GPU and CPU i'm really not knowledgeable enough on the other parts.

INTEL CORE I5 14400F 10C/16T
MSI PRO B760M-E D5 LGA1700
KINGSTON F.B RGB 2X8GB (16GB) 5600MHZ D5
SAPPHIRE PULSE RX 9070 XT GAMING 16GB GDDR6
T FORCE Z44A 500GB NVME M.2 GEN4
FSP VITA BD ATX3.1 (PCIE5.1) 750W 80+ BRONZE
INVASION C-8000 ARGB MATX CHASSIS
DEEPCOOL AG400 BK ARGB V2 AIR COOLER
RM5,799

Would you consider this a fair deal? Are there any parts you would recommend swapping out?

Thanks!
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This build is... not great really, it feels like they just went cheap on every single component out there just to fit a 9070 XT sweat.gif

16GB RAM isn't really enough for modern games, and the SSD is a DRAMless model, which isn't exactly ideal for I/O intensive workloads. 500GB isn't really a lot for games these days unless you like the idea of swapping games ever so often, especially with so many big budget titles can easily go over the 100GB+ mark sweat.gif

PSU is rather mediocre for what this machine offers sweat.gif

The CPU is fine, but I'd recommend going something in the line of a 7500F/7700 instead; it's a faster CPU with much better path for upgrades (you can put something like a 9800X3D or a theoretical 10800X3D in the future with a BIOS update) icon_idea.gif

This is what I'd probably get for ~RM6K:

Ryzen 7500F - RM563
MSI B650M Gaming Plus Wifi - RM615*
Acer Predator Pallas II 2x16GB DDR5 6000CL30 - RM448
ASRock RX9070 Challenger - RM2662 (https://my.shp.ee/diTpGMw)
Kingston KC3000 2TB - RM650
FSP VITA GM 750W - RM431
Lian Li Lancool 207 - RM307
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE - RM134

Total: RM5810

*Optional: you can swap the board to the ASRock B650 Pro RS Wifi for RM769 if you want an ATX board

A 9070 isn't much slower than the 9070 XT, but it is a much more efficient card, and it's quite a bit cheaper too (about 10% performance deficit compared to the XT variant at 1440p) icon_idea.gif
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Plenty of storage for your big games too icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jul 27 2025, 01:24 PM)
You can get 5070 Ti for RM3387 now.

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You still cannot max RT on some games.
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As always, max/ultra settings are always intended for future hardware, so don't worry too much if you cannot max it out with current hardware icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jul 26 2025, 08:19 PM)
Which monkey quotes 16GB RAM and DRAMless 500GB SSD rubbish for 2025 rig?

Core i5-14400F - 500 (Brightstar)
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE - 126 (Just IT)
MSI B760M-E DDR5 - 380 (Brightstar)
Acer Predator Pallas II 32GB DDR5-6000 CL30 kit - 450 (Dotatech)
Sapphire RX 9070 XT 16GB Pulse - 3282 (Dotatech)
Kingston KC3000 1TB - 373 (Thundermatch)
FSP Vita GM 850W - 514 (Just IT)
Tecware Fusion Air M2 case - 126 (Dotatech)

RM5751 total (Shopee prices until 27th July 2025. Can't guarantee later)

I would advise upgrading to MSI B760M-A Pro Wifi DDR5 at RM585 for better VRM (Voltage Regulator Module).
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Even better, there's an ASRock RX9070 for RM620 less from the same seller, and you lose just 10% performance over the XT model, according to TPU benchmarks icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(whippersnapper @ Jul 28 2025, 10:40 PM)
Anyone like that in Penang? Even if I sourced the components myself, I was thinking of having a pro assemble it. If can buy + assemble same place even better.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 29 2025, 03:51 PM)
Another optimised game that showed the early demise of 8GB cards have been prematured

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https://www.techpowerup.com/review/metal-ge...ke-eater/7.html

The game is taxing on all GPUS inc even 5090 (120 FPS in native 1080P Ultra!) but it appear VRAM has no bearing on difference in perf (24GB 7900XTX loses to 16GB 9070XT despite being 1 tier higher).

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The tiers showed raw GPU horsepower difference clearly.
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Again, FPS numbers do not tell the whole story, especially things like missing/downgraded textures are not something you can quantify with benchmark numbers icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(jwgs @ Sep 3 2025, 06:42 PM)
Sifus,

Mostly gaming, some video editing:

CPU : Ryzen 7 7800x3d
Mobo: MSI B650 GAMING PLUS
RAM: 2x Acer Predator Pallas II 16GB DDR5-6000 CL30
SSD: Kingston KC3000 2TB
HDD: 1x for storage 3 TB / 4 TB
Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 140
PSU: Cooler Master MWE Gold 850W V3 ATX 3.1
Casing: Lian Li Lancool 207

GPU: 5070 Ti /9070 XT / 9070 undecided, I am thinking either 5070ti or 9070, is there a brand to avoid or just grab the cheapest? What would be the price range?

I am thinking of buying at the shop
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so they can assemble for me, then GPU on shopee for discount.

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Using GPU cost per frame metric from Hardware Unboxed and based on Shopee prices:

1. Sapphire RX9070 XT Pulse (https://my.shp.ee/BNi8BES) - RM3099, RM27.67/frame
2. Sapphire RX9070 Pulse (https://my.shp.ee/QvsdY4n) - RM2648, RM25.96/frame
3. Colorful RTX5070 Ti Battle Ax (https://my.shp.ee/QvsdY4n) - RM3559, RM30.42/frame

Relative to each other, the RX9070 offers around 17% better cost per frame over the 5070 Ti, and the XT model is about 10% better in terms of cost per frame icon_idea.gif

If you do go for the Radeon card you will have to deal with the lower ray tracing and video encoding performance (it's still far superior to what the RX7000 series offers though) icon_idea.gif
However, do note that there is a driver update that boosts the Radeon performance quite a bit so keep this in mind icon_idea.gif

On the other hand, the 5070 Ti do offers better ray tracing performance and upscaling, so whether those features do justify the extra spending is up to you icon_idea.gif

P.S. you might want to avoid the MSI Shadow model, if the review of the MSI 5050 Shadow model by Hardware Unboxed is of any indication icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Sep 4 2025, 08:41 AM)
If add in, RT, DLSS 4 vs FSR4, and MFG, and if do encoding or apps via CUDA... 5070TI value goes above the Radeons. So do consider that as well. Pure raster perf only tells one side of story.
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Yes, but does it warrant the extra spending? RT is still not worth the large performance hit over its supposed visual improvements, and not everyone like FG either (aka fake frames) icon_idea.gif
Another point in favor of the 9070s is that most AIB models tend to use the good ol' 8 pin power connectors which tend to be a lot more reliable than the failure prone 12VHPWR/12V2x6 connector on the 5070s icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(jwgs0010 @ Sep 4 2025, 10:39 PM)
Is liquid cooler better or overrated?
Any downside for tray version of 7800X3D ?
Is it likely to have CPU & GPU price drop, like soon?

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Is it likely to have CPU & GPU price drop, like soon?
You might want to wait for Shopee/Lazada 9.9 Sales in a few days - the RX9070XT used to retail for RM2.7K back in the 8.8 deal icon_idea.gif

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Depends, but I would say a good air cooler would be a better fit due to better longevity - some AIOs can be susceptible to pump failures icon_idea.gif
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post Sep 6 2025, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(jwgs0010 @ Sep 6 2025, 07:45 AM)
When the next upgrade version (i.e SUPER series) of the GPU available, how much -% or -value on the current 5070Ti / 9070 / XT is expected?
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No idea, but the 5070 Super should be a good competitor to the 9070, if Nvidia didn't screw up the pricing (knowing current GPU market it's going to happen anyway) sweat.gif
There's also the purported RX9070 GRE 16GB which should fit quite well between the 9070 and the 9060 XT (probably as a replacement for the 7800XT) icon_idea.gif

If the rumors are indeed accurate they should be releasing in September/October this year icon_idea.gif

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Jarrod's Tech did a analysis on the mobile RTX5070, which is analogous to a power limited 5060 Ti 8GB and explained why 8GB VRAM is largely unviable for AAA gaming without severe concessions to visual quality (even on laptops):



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QUOTE(UnknownMy @ Sep 6 2025, 02:25 PM)
Just to confirm, we can actually buy online and then request the same shop to assemble for us? No need to buy from physical shop for them to assemble it, right?

Also, is there any PC shop help assemble for PC part from multi source of purchased? What I mean is, if I buy CPU, Mobo, Graphic, Fan & PSU from seller, then I buy RAM, SSD & case my own. Can I ask seller A to assembly it, or got seller/shop that accept such request?
I don't mind pay for the assembly & test, and understand that some part will not have warranty support from the shop.

Sorry if my question look funny, coz I am not familiar with the Rig building.
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Also, is there any PC shop help assemble for PC part from multi source of purchased? What I mean is, if I buy CPU, Mobo, Graphic, Fan & PSU from seller, then I buy RAM, SSD & case my own. Can I ask seller A to assembly it, or got seller/shop that accept such request?
If you are in Penang, I can help you with this - ask me via PM icon_idea.gif
Some shops do accept bring your own parts, but you will need to pay a build fee icon_idea.gif


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