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English Clubs Liverpool LYN Kop Talk - BELIEVE V 6 2016/2017, LFC 3 : 0 Boro #YNWA Welcome to UCL
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ace-user
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Apr 13 2017, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Apr 13 2017, 09:42 AM) Yes I agree he's a decent player, but it's all he is. Case in point, where do u see him playing in our current team? Another question, where do u see his best position as? Right winger? Central mid? I think he's clueless about it too. I dont remember him string few good performances together, let alone games where he announce his arrival as the next big thing. He might be younger than Cout, but dont forget that Cout was an integral part of our last title push under BR. Same cant be said of Ox. I think he'll fit well it our midfield, providing more speed, power and strength. He's an upgrade over Wijnaldum (although he has been excellent for us). If we get Champions League this season we will need more squad depth and do more squad rotation. I wouldn't mind having Ox, but hope it's around 20 million, not 35 million. Btw Ox seems to be quite versatile, can play LW, RW, and Midfield. So I can see why Klopp wants him, buy one player to cover all 3 positions. If Cou or Mane injured he can play their position and as well as starting in midfield.
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ace-user
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Apr 13 2017, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Apr 13 2017, 10:16 AM) When are we gonna learn our fckin lesson and stop buying British players 35mil can get you more quality players than Ox e.g. Pullisic, Berardi, Carrasco. Top up another 15mil you can even vie for Sanchez Go continental n don't look into the Brit market. Overrrated, Overhyped and overpriced!!!! When it comes to transfer is not only about money man, it's also the willingness of the club to sell and whether the player interested to come or not. You can pay 100 million for Sanchez but if he dowan to come the deal won't go through oso. We have one of the best English player in our team (Lallana)  Although some are overrated la, ex. Stones.
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ace-user
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Apr 13 2017, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Apr 13 2017, 10:47 AM) I dont rate him so Im gonna be biased here. I think Ox is said to versatile, to be able to play in any of the "3" in 4-2-3-1, or even the more offensive of the "2", is because he has not really done well in any of them. One game he does well, the next he plays ok, the other he does an Ozil - the dark side one. At 23, soon to be 24, age is on his side, but he has been on the scene for like 6/7 years. I think he is Walcott 2.0 rather than Bale 2.0. Even at 20M, we could get 2 players of similar stature from the rest of the continent, for our much needed depth no less. The coming window is crucial for the club, especially if we get into UCL. Sustain our "success" in PL, make a run to the last 8 of UCL, repeat, then we can rightly call ourselves a big club again. I will be so pissed if we start with signing the Ox. I don't think we could get 2 players like him for 20 Million, not as this day and age, who do u suggest we get then? I don't really want Ox at our team, but I wouldn't mind having him. If Klopps wants him, I'm in full support. I'm sure when we spent 35 Million on Mane and 25 Million on Wijnaldum everyone was losing their head, but it turned out to be some pretty good deals.
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ace-user
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Apr 13 2017, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Apr 13 2017, 11:11 AM) Wijnaldum is a good deal? Not so sure about that...way too average as a player I disagree. He scored some really important goals for us, against Chelsea, Manchester City, Arsenal and some vital assist against Arsenal, Tottenham and maybe I left out some, but he's a big game player. Vital to our team this season, but not irreplaceable.
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ace-user
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Apr 14 2017, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(champlaos11 @ Apr 14 2017, 08:34 AM) Southampton want at least 50M for Virgil van Dijk. LOLLLL They want Sakho, which we value around 30M, top up 20M for Van Dijk doesn't sound too bad
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ace-user
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Apr 14 2017, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Apr 14 2017, 09:49 AM) I know this is just rumours but now we are being linked with another Brit, Aaron Ramsey. Holy mother of god why Liverpool and Potential Brit signings are always in the same fckin sentence?!! The thing that really pissed me off is I'm not sure if this is Klopp's direction or it's a policy from the club within. Klopp didn't sign any Brits in the first season but now we are like being linked to every single Brit player on sight. Scouts need to do more groundwork outside the British Isles! Didn't see anything about Aaron Ramsey. Couple of reliable journalist reports that FSG plans to spend big this summer, around 200M. Thoughts? I'm a bit skeptical but of course I hope it's true. Who would u guys spend on 200M? CB, LB, CM, LW/RW, ST maybe GK?
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ace-user
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Apr 14 2017, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Apr 14 2017, 11:22 AM) That's why I think it's unfortunate that we really might have to let him go instead of Lovren this summer. They are both at a similar level but there is way more interest in Sakho. And although some people think Sakho is good enough to dislodge Lovren in our first 11, there's no denying that Van Dijk is better maybe even ahead of Matip. So it doesn't sound like a bad deal to me, except we will have to beat City and Chelsea to him which will be difficult. Sakho's touted price is 30m. Sounds fair to me. Van Dijk is regarded as one of PL's best defenders and being linked with Chelsea, City and Madrid. Of course his value is gonna skyrocket. 50m for a top defender is the going price these days. 50m got City John Stones so 50m for Van Dijk isn't unreasonable. Ya, I would prefer Lovren to be sold too, he's simply not good enough. I think Van Dijk could happen if we offer Sakho + 15M with add ons. It would be a really interesting summer if Klopp has 200M to spend. My ideal summer for 200M: 50M for Van Dijk 20M for a LB (don't know any decent LB that's available) 35M for Keita (CM) 25M for Brandt (AM) 20M for Demarai Gray (LW/RW) 50M for Lacazette (ST) Offload: 30M for Sakho 25M for Sturridge 15M for Markovic Lucas, Klavan, Steward, Randall etc for around 20M? This post has been edited by ace-user: Apr 14 2017, 12:12 PM
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ace-user
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Apr 14 2017, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Apr 14 2017, 01:20 PM) Don't bet it. It's just a gimmick from the journalists to pile the pressure on FSG to splash the cash this summer, which I support entirely. FSG hasn't bought any exciting prospect since LuisSuarez, keeping the wages low and doing the Arsenal thingy. Ya that's what I thought too, but wouldn't it be great if we really do splash the cash this summer? We'll be serious title contenders next season if so. I disagree, they bought a few exciting prospects, just not expensive ones, Coutinho, Sturridge, Matip, Firmino, Can.
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ace-user
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Apr 14 2017, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(champlaos11 @ Apr 14 2017, 01:43 PM) LB : We are linked with Theo Hernández and Ryan Sessegnon. Sessegnon is only 17 and Fulham is demanding 20M, he's highly rated but that's crazy money for a 17 year old.
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ace-user
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Apr 14 2017, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(champu @ Apr 14 2017, 01:57 PM) Nice list. But are these actual interests or rumour mill? Also, I'm not really sold about demarai gray. BUt Lacazette will be like-for-like replacement for studg, except fitter and consistent. I think there's solid interest in Brandt, Keita, Van Dijk and maybe Gray, these are the 3,4 names mentioned by reliable journalist.
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ace-user
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Apr 14 2017, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(champu @ Apr 14 2017, 02:07 PM) Not a bad list i'd say, hopefully the transfer commitee (if there is still one) and the new CEO not screw this up. Apparently Klopp will personally take charge of transfers, don't know how true is this. But I hope with the huge amount of transfer kitty we'll be able to get top class talent this summer.
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ace-user
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Apr 14 2017, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Apr 14 2017, 04:02 PM) Lucas is leaving on free. His contract runs out this summer if not mistaken. Oh ya I think so. He's been a loyal servant to the club, adopted scouser.
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ace-user
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Apr 14 2017, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE(sahathai @ Apr 14 2017, 07:44 PM) Mediocrity spreading like a virus influenced the expectations. No wonder the like of sakho and wijnaldum is highly rated. If it wasn't for him, we would lose points against City, Tottenham and Chelsea already. Big game player, what's not to like?
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ace-user
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Apr 14 2017, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Apr 14 2017, 10:30 PM) Yet he goes invisible in many other games, especially away games. We might have overpaid for him, but I accept that is the going rate these days for players of his level which is why Van Dijk will be well worth the 50M whoever ends up paying it. Not that I'm complaining, but I don't think he is someone I want leading our midfield week in week out if we have any aspirations beyond just challenging for top 4. He is average, maybe slightly above average, a nice squad player. Just looking at how well Piotr Zielinski is doing at Napoli this season, I'm bumped we missed out on such a good young player who was sold for much less than what we paid for Wijnaldum. I totally understand what u mean. He's a good player but easily upgrade-able.
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ace-user
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Apr 16 2017, 01:13 AM
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A few sources on Twitter said that Ox to Liverpool is done deal, not sure how true is this :/
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ace-user
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Apr 16 2017, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Apr 16 2017, 09:07 AM) Don't believe it mate. Source is some random dude on Twitter who claims to have inside info whose only achievement to date was predicting BR's sacking. This was followed by predicting things like us appointing Ancelotti instead of Klopp and that Alex Teixeira was a done deal. So yeah it's all no substance BS. Ya I totally agree, I'll just take it with a grain of salt. But if Ox really comes I hope it's not more than 20M.
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ace-user
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Apr 16 2017, 09:05 PM
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Boring game so far. Origi has been terrible, can't whole the ball properly and wait for support, terrible ball control.
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ace-user
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Apr 16 2017, 09:09 PM
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Lovren's passing is just as terrible as his defending.
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ace-user
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Apr 16 2017, 09:17 PM
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Bobby's on fire!
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ace-user
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Apr 16 2017, 10:23 PM
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9 points ahead of moan-rinho!
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