well he shine with cp even fow god know how long he sat on the reserve team. that tell something. u may disagree. i dont care

Disagree that Klavan is 'deadwood'.

He's a hard worker and is the closest thing we have to a Carragher at the moment.  We need solid British / Euro players like him to cover for the absences of African players like Matip.

We're short of 1 more world-class CB, but the backline will look much better if we have a quicker and solid option at LB.  Milner can be caught out a bit although he plays with heart.  The trio of Milner, Klavan, Matip is slightly slower on the left side of the pitch.  It's more important to get a really good DM to cover the defence instead of relying on short term fixes like Can, Lucas and Hendo.  Hendo seems to prefer to play in the middle of the pitch anyway.

I like klavan thou. Left footed, composed with the ball. Like Matip, he is very calm but unfortunately, we can't have two of this type of cb on the field. That's why Lovren who is more aggressive is ahead of him in picking order.

Totally agree on Milner. Reminds me of Kuyt. Average but very reliable. Always give their best in every match but rarely injured. Even at the ends of their career, they still push to their limits.

No way when compared to Gomez. Don't forget he is very much unproven in the league even more so coming off such a lengthy layoff. There's no telling if he will even come good eventually. Hype and expectation doesn't always match reality.

Decent by the standards set by Moreno. His performances really wasn't all that amazing, just acceptable for a natural right footed centre back slotted at left back. Let's not forget after the horror show of Moreno's first season, all we asked for was someone to not fuck up at the back and Gomez was that.

We do have games where we could judge him and those are cup games of this season. Frankly speaking, not great as you can tell from our not so amazing cup runs. Whether or not those subpar performances were impacted by his lengthy injury does not matter. He needs time to get up to pace, maybe he will go back to being the wonderkid he was or maybe he will never be the same again, only time will tell which is why for the foreseeable future he will not be in anyway better than Klavan. If he does turn good eventually it will be at least 2-3 years down the line by which time it is time to let Klavan go anyway.

And not sure what confidence you have in Klopp's ability to make him better. Sure Klopp is a very good coach with a very good reputation of developing young players but most of those involve players in midfield or attacking positions or attacking aspects of the game. Klopp is not known for his ability to coach a defense, ask any Dortmund fan and they can tell you that much.

If we do sign another CB this summer, Klavan will be pushed down the pecking order as our 4th choice CB. For a player of his ability as a 4th choice really isn't that bad, pretty good in fact. Just look at some of our top 6 rivals, some of them can't even sort out their 1st and 2nd choices.

time for Origi to shine like end last season.   
always prefer Origi over hot n cold Firmino. He is more consistent given with match time he gets. Dunno why Klopp choose Firmino 

origi also same.
prior to weekend game, he hadn't scored in something like 12 games totalling over 700 mins of playtime.

Klavan was at fault for the 2nd goals, by not pushing up with the line.
If not, Bournemouth's player would be in offside position.

Interesting lineup and formation

the defense really vomit inducing

Just losing Mane can make the whole team crumble.

Did Klopp rely on Mane too much?

What the heck with today's line up anyway.

clyne look really awkward at leftback, i mean i dont love moreno but hey  why not put proper left footer

dunno what our midfield trio doing....hoof ball to origi n hope for the best