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 New Proton Persona VVT 2016 - Official Thread V2, Its New, Its Refined, Its Safe ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

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paganizonda
post Apr 7 2017, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Apr 7 2017, 12:32 AM)
Glad to hear Persona driver here don't have ah bengs that keep push the car to limit, smoking here smoking there and simply claiming the car is very stable

We have very honest and mature driver here  thumbup.gif
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Proton persona suspension is too soft. High speed really mabuk. My old saga fl 1.3 is much better, guess i have to buy aftermarket suspension kit after my warranty ends hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Apr 7 2017, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(paganizonda @ Apr 7 2017, 10:11 PM)
How serious is ur engine knocking? my persona engine noise is like abit choppy but its not really noticeable to a point where i think its abnormal. its like gr-gr-gr-gr-gr-gr-gr-gr but in a smooth way, its just that the noise is abit choppy. how does urs sound like? So far my engine no problem.
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Engine no problem. runs like it should. just no idea this rattling coming from engine or other parts. icon_question.gif

Maybe I'm lugging the engine? I can eliminate this problem if I always rev my car more than 2.5k and shift @ 3.5k. Vroom Vroom.

From the video I'm on a hill in gear 2. Revs are below 2k when I begin to accelerate.

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paganizonda
post Apr 7 2017, 10:22 PM

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Engine no problem. runs like it should. just no idea this rattling coming from engine or other parts.  icon_question.gif

Maybe I'm lugging the engine? I can eliminate this problem if I always rev my car more than 2.5k and shift @ 3.5k. Vroom Vroom.

From the video I'm on a hill in gear 2. Revs are below 2k when I begin to accelerate.
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is it the metal sound coming from the engine that is rattling? Ur engine noise is quite similar to mine under load
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post Apr 7 2017, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(paganizonda @ Apr 7 2017, 10:22 PM)
is it the metal sound coming from the engine that is rattling? Ur engine noise is quite similar to mine under load
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Yes correct. Its from the engine compartment.

Either its....

1. Engine pre-detonation

2. Exhaust system rattle. this user solved it by tightening his heat shield.




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post Apr 7 2017, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(Imagination *-* @ Apr 7 2017, 10:25 PM)
Yes correct. Its from the engine compartment.

Either its....

1. Engine pre-detonation

2. Exhaust system rattle. this user solved it by tightening his heat shield.


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Go for other big proton service centre. I've heard many bad stories about cose. Cant believe they said its normal hahaha
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post Apr 7 2017, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(paganizonda @ Apr 7 2017, 10:29 PM)
Go for other big proton service centre. I've heard many bad stories about cose. Cant believe they said its normal hahaha
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where else got big one? AFAIK Proton CoSE is the biggest one???
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post Apr 7 2017, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(wh0cares @ Apr 7 2017, 05:10 PM)
How much total you paid ?
Mine almost 10800 km,, will go service tomorow
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Top up Rm64.25. The oil around 190, free oil syntium 800 around 120. Psst..psst..customized sunshade rm50++ only 11street.
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post Apr 7 2017, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(Imagination *-* @ Apr 7 2017, 10:36 PM)
where else got big one? AFAIK Proton CoSE is the biggest one???
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Maybe u can try proton sungai besi and glenmarie. I've been to the sungai besi one and its not bad the staffs are friendly.
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post Apr 7 2017, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(cktang @ Apr 7 2017, 10:38 PM)
Top up Rm64.25. The oil around 190, free oil syntium 800 around 120. Psst..psst..customized sunshade rm50++ only 11street.
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What viscosity oil they gave u? 30?
That sunshade I think MR DIY RM49 like that only... 11street still need pay shipping
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post Apr 8 2017, 01:02 AM

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Anyone knows what is the stock wheel weight for this Persona VVT?
Changing to light weight wheels can improve fuel consumption?
Will it void warranty?
Any wheel to intro?
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post Apr 8 2017, 06:03 PM

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Hi zero5177

Please add me into the club!

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post Apr 8 2017, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(tzmin128 @ Apr 8 2017, 06:03 PM)
Hi zero5177

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post Apr 8 2017, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(drsmallkid @ Apr 8 2017, 01:02 AM)
Anyone knows what is the stock wheel weight for this Persona VVT?
Changing to light weight wheels can improve fuel consumption?
Will it void warranty?
Any wheel to intro?
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Making the car lighter surely will improve the fuel consumption, but I don't think is obviously noticeable thou... the cost u spent on the Rim itself even it does help to improve the fuel consumption, I doubt how long it will takes to actually get the return of the investment...

Usually people change rim is for performance, upgrade tire or for the looks...
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post Apr 8 2017, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Apr 8 2017, 09:56 PM)
Making the car lighter surely will improve the fuel consumption, but I don't think is obviously noticeable thou... the cost u spent on the Rim itself even it does help to improve the fuel consumption, I doubt how long it will takes to actually get the return of the investment...

Usually people change rim is for performance, upgrade tire or for the looks...
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Vehicle Combination Average Speed Average mpg Weightage (per wheel)
BMW 3 Series equipped with
Original Equipment (16") Stock 38.7 22.8 42.5 pound (Baseline)
BMW 3 Series equipped with
Plus One (17") Lightweight 39.0 21.5 38.5 pound (-3pound)
BMW 3 Series equipped with
Plus One (17") Heavyweight 38.8 21.1 48.5 pound (+7pound)

Source : https://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=108

1) Lightweight VS Heavyweight (10pound difference), additional 1.9% fuel economy, 1.7% in metric,
If a new set of wheels cost RM1700, you will need to spend RM100,000 in fuel to return investment, that will translate to 409,090KM odormeter at RM2.20/L/9KM, driving 225KM for 365days for 5 years to return investment doh.gif sweat.gif

2) Noticed the OE Stock VS Lightweight Bigger tyres, although 1inch bigger and 3 pounds lighter, the fuel economy dropped 6-5.7%, from here I can conclude that the tyre low rolling resistance played a bigger role than just SIZE and WEIGHT.

Researched Concluded,
Hope that this could help wannabees like me don't be an idiot. doh.gif rclxs0.gif
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post Apr 9 2017, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(drsmallkid @ Apr 8 2017, 10:24 PM)
Vehicle  Combination            Average Speed  Average mpg        Weightage (per wheel)
BMW 3 Series equipped with
Original Equipment (16")  Stock  38.7                  22.8                42.5 pound (Baseline)
BMW 3 Series equipped with
Plus One (17")  Lightweight          39.0                          21.5                38.5 pound (-3pound)
BMW 3 Series equipped with
Plus One (17")  Heavyweight          38.8                          21.1                48.5 pound (+7pound)

Source : https://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=108

1) Lightweight VS Heavyweight (10pound difference), additional 1.9% fuel economy, 1.7% in metric,
If a new set of wheels cost RM1700, you will need to spend RM100,000 in fuel to return investment, that will translate to 409,090KM odormeter at RM2.20/L/9KM, driving 225KM for 365days for 5 years to return investment  doh.gif  sweat.gif

2) Noticed the OE Stock VS Lightweight Bigger tyres, although 1inch bigger and 3 pounds lighter, the fuel economy dropped 6-5.7%, from here I can conclude that the tyre low rolling resistance played a bigger role than just SIZE and WEIGHT.

Researched Concluded,
Hope that this could help wannabees like me don't be an idiot. doh.gif  rclxs0.gif
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a lot efforts u put in the research there icon_idea.gif

U can give it a try as an enhancement to the car, but don't hope too much to gain any savings from there sweat.gif

About tire is give and take... low resistance tire often don't give good grip while higher resistance tire is the other way round... so in the end of the day it still boils down to what u want to achieve, no right or wrong thou... some people just love to see their car got more economical than before even the money spent is not justifiable... but hey, its good for the environment atleast icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 10 2017, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Apr 9 2017, 01:49 AM)
a lot efforts u put in the research there  icon_idea.gif

U can give it a try as an enhancement to the car, but don't hope too much to gain any savings from there  sweat.gif

About tire is give and take... low resistance tire often don't give good grip while higher resistance tire is the other way round... so in the end of the day it still boils down to what u want to achieve, no right or wrong thou...  some people just love to see their car got more economical than before even the money spent is not justifiable... but hey, its good for the environment atleast  icon_rolleyes.gif
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http://www.proton-edar.com.my/en/Promotion...x#promo-details

5 years free service and part sia GG LIAO
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post Apr 10 2017, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(Boss262 @ Apr 10 2017, 01:40 PM)
http://www.proton-edar.com.my/en/Promotion...x#promo-details

5 years free service and part sia GG LIAO
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Worth up to 4100... I think they include semi sync lub too..
Ok I feel betrayed vmad.gif
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post Apr 10 2017, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Apr 10 2017, 04:54 PM)
Worth up to 4100... I think they include semi sync lub too..
Ok I feel betrayed vmad.gif
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Me too, mine totally got NOTHING! vmad.gif bangwall.gif ranting.gif
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post Apr 10 2017, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(drsmallkid @ Apr 10 2017, 05:23 PM)
Me too, mine totally got NOTHING! vmad.gif  bangwall.gif  ranting.gif
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Hehe got offered RM4500 off and 3 years free service for 3 years (2016 model) premium...now waiting for documents agreement and then can take car edi rclxm9.gif wub.gif
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Apr 10 2017, 04:54 PM)
Worth up to 4100... I think they include semi sync lub too..
Ok I feel betrayed vmad.gif
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QUOTE(drsmallkid @ Apr 10 2017, 06:23 PM)
Me too, mine totally got NOTHING! vmad.gif  bangwall.gif  ranting.gif
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