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post Dec 14 2017, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(Merovingian2 @ Dec 14 2017, 05:57 PM)
If I had Rm2k .
My risk profile is Moderate.
My goal is to get as much returns in 1 year. 
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QUOTE(Merovingian2 @ Dec 14 2017, 06:30 PM)
I'm thinking at a percentage of 7-10%? Is that reasonable?
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for just 1 year to try to make a returns of 7~10% with a "moderate' risk profile.....

try this as per FSM portfolio simulation?
annualised 16% in 5 yrs period
3 yrs volatility at 7.7%
well that simulation are based on past.....

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post Dec 15 2017, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(funnyface @ Dec 15 2017, 02:22 PM)
Is your bond a foreign bond?  hmm.gif  MYR strengthen by ~5%...so is expected to drop 4-5%  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(fun_feng @ Dec 15 2017, 02:25 PM)
affin hwang select bond and rhb EM bond...
Yes, both are foreign funds  bye.gif
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Dec 15 2017, 05:08 PM)
having this 2 also.

any other alternative ?

he coming. expecting strengthening of MYR. but not too sure post ge
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hmm.gif 2 weeks ago, FSM came out with this.

All in all, we believe that a fund with an unhedged foreign currency exposure is a double edge sword. As we have mentioned before, for investors who have invested into the unhedged foreign funds over the past 2 to 3 years, they might have earned very handsome return. However, with the current market condition and the several factors that are pointing to increasing positives for the Ringgit, investors who want to have exposure to foreign bond funds could consider the Affin Hwang Select Bond Fund - MYR or Eastspring Investments Global Target Income Fund; both fund managers implement appropriate hedging strategy with most of its foreign currency exposure hedged back to the MYR.

What’s the prospect for Ringgit in 2018?
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...mber-2017--9144
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post Dec 19 2017, 04:48 PM

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just a reminder....for those new applicant....

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/home/index.svdo


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post Dec 19 2017, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(innsean @ Dec 19 2017, 09:37 PM)
damn.. miss the 0.8% sales charge = =
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fret not, this SC discount may be back next month during the fair....
so just prepare the ammo.

talking about missed the SC.....many people would have cursed about missing the mkts discount during the early Dec minor corrections.... biggrin.gif
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post Dec 21 2017, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(wafflebot @ Dec 21 2017, 01:20 AM)
Hello sifus,

im new to UTF. Still learning now and would like to get some opinions on the following portfolio.  icon_question.gif

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How do you determine how much exposure to a certain market in order to be diversified?

with IR expected to increase next year, is it not a good time to get bond funds now?

Thanks!
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hmm.gif no sifus here but just "mumbling" my thought.....

a portfolio composition need not have to have a "rounded' numerical value in terms of % when setting them.
it just looks nice on paper data....but the most import is it must align with one's diversification intention, risk and expectation preferences.

"How do you determine how much exposure to a certain market in order to be diversified?"
.....with many unknown to a lot of things about you and if you trust FSM, you may try this
1) Star rating
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...tarRatings.svdo
allocate more % in regions/countries that has more stars
2) model portfolio
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/fsm/manage...ials/factsheets
select the intended portfolio type, then see how they do the composition allocation.

"with IR expected to increase next year, is it not a good time to get bond funds now?"
as mentioned before by others.....depending on your stages of investment......a bond fund may not be necessary....especially if one is aming for asset accumulation and has a long time frame for this investment.
some want a bond fund as a stabiliser to a portfolio
some want a bond fund as a warchest ....ready to switch out when there is any turbulance drops in the EQ markets......then when the EQ mkts recovers switch back that portion to bond fund.

something of added interest....
WORRY ON BOND FUND RETURNS AMID A RISING INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT?
Rising rates or not, bonds, is still the shield for long-term investors as they act as an embankment against volatility in stock market. It is vital to have enough exposure in stocks to provide growth opportunities and protection against inflation, but at the same time have bonds to act as a portfolio stabiliser while providing at least a minimum of income.
CONCLUSION
Investors should know that never put all the eggs in one basket is nice, and at the same time having a good basket that able to cater all investment weather is even better. While we are against a rising interest rate backdrop, we continue to advocate investors to have a diversified asset allocation (read our latest Adjustments To Our Asset Allocation) between equities and fixed income with respect to their risk profile.
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...mber-2017--8800

4 Bond Funds for You to Shelter Against the Ringgit’s Strength
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...June-2017--8441

What’s the prospect for Ringgit in 2018?
FSM believe that a fund with an unhedged foreign currency exposure is a double edge sword. As we have mentioned before, for investors who have invested into the unhedged foreign funds over the past 2 to 3 years, they might have earned very handsome return. However, with the current market condition and the several factors that are pointing to increasing positives for the Ringgit, investors who want to have exposure to foreign bond funds could consider....
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...mber-2017--9144




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post Dec 21 2017, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Dec 21 2017, 09:52 AM)
Anyone on the agressive portfolio for managed portfolios? Would you recommend this portfolio over the balanced as based on the trial run by fsm the return of investment for the balanced and agressive portfolios do not differ much

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hmm.gif shouldn't one select based on one's risk appetite preference?
the past performance and the projected returns of each portfolio are based on past and projection....thus future performance are still unknown......
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Dec 21 2017, 10:48 AM)
will they have any promo for managed PF coming months?

I m preparing now. when is the 1st year anniversary? may?

and I individual port going to 100 EQ without bond... lol because I have amanah and rest will give to managed. but

my diy now perf better than managed even it's 90 EQ 10 FI....
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hmm.gif i think "NO" promotion for managed portfolio...based on was told last end may when they started it, that they did not expect the response to be so good....

btw, if your DIY is better than them..why do you need them?
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post Dec 21 2017, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Dec 21 2017, 11:32 AM)
Of course its still unknown, but we can use the past performance as an indicator on how the portfolio is going to perform in the future.

I dont mind taking risk, but based on past performance the agressive and balance ROI does not differ much. So is it necessary to go for agressive when balanced is performing and performed well so far?
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Based on what you mentioned....then of course it is not necessary to go for higher risk.....
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post Dec 25 2017, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Dec 25 2017, 08:57 AM)
Marry Christmas everyone ..
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‘Tis The Time To Be Merry, & To Rebalance!
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post Dec 25 2017, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Dec 25 2017, 10:21 AM)
haven't seen the distribution sign for dinasti... fsm always slow on this.
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hmm.gif or is the data from the source are slow?
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post Dec 29 2017, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(FloralEmbrace @ Dec 29 2017, 09:16 AM)
Noticed that Manulife India is no longer available under ‘Buy’. Is this a year end thing?
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update..buy button available now...

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post Dec 30 2017, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(FloralEmbrace @ Dec 29 2017, 10:07 PM)
Thanks for the update and very quick resolution. You work for FSM?
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nope...not affiliated in any sort...

QUOTE(Sasuke95 @ Dec 30 2017, 03:37 AM)
Hi all, I suddenly thought of something.

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Let's say I have a target return of 20% on each fund (equity), once hit target and I will sell it, and I may miss the boat of riding the profits higher, while I may save myself from getting a lower profit later on.
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what if it did not managed to hit 20% in a year or 2?
continue to wait for another few years?

I'll take this 20% as my return this year, and will invest in the same fund in the next year to reset the profit to 0. The reason for this is because I noticed that the fund can go high and drop back to form a finalized YTD return for that year before starting a new year. I don't know how high it can go, so might as well i set a target i'm comfortable with and exit when it hit.
could the "yearly" high "to" low NAV of the fund happens before and after the new year caused by income distribution incidents?

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Also, I came across Dollar cost average strategy and I think it doesn't make sense for me despite I understand its concept. Provided you don't choose the wrong fund, generally the fund will generate return as time passed, means higher NAV over time, DCA means keep buying the high every month and you'll have trouble making a profit, might as well you invest a sum since day 1 and let it run until your target and exit.
Yes, DCA works provided you DON"t
1) choose the wrong fund,
2) invested at the wrong time,
3) invested in the wrong region/countries/sector,
4) invested without proper portfolio set up,
5) etc, etc...

having said that....the above "DON'Ts" also applies to Lumps sump investment too, don't you think so.
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"DCA means keep buying the high every month and you'll have trouble making a profit".....
As the market keeps going up and down, when the markets is on a down trend, DCA means keep buying the lower NAV every month and you'll have NO trouble making a profit when it is on the upswing... biggrin.gif

DCA takes care of market timings by mechanically investing a fixed amount every month whether the markets are soaring or bleeding. More units are purchased when the market is bad (i.e. when the unit trust is "cheap"), and lesser units are purchased when the market is doing well (i.e. when the unit trust is "expensive"). It is a simple strategy that involves zero human interference or subjective judgement.

Neither Is 'Better' Than The Other
In all fairness, nobody can say for certain whether LSI or DCA is the better investment method. The reason is that adopting both methods in a different period would give different results depending on the prevailing market conditions.
For example, if you made a lump sum investment right when the FBM KLCI bottomed out in end March 2009, there's no way that the DCA method could give you better annualised returns. In a nutshell, it all boils down to market timing and whether you can catch the market's peaks and trenches.


https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...-Averaging-1526

What do you think?
may i suggest you read post# 6
of this "Market timing vs. Buy and hold" thread

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry85476209
it has some links which hope can provided added info, which may be or may not be informative, useful, applicable, agreeable....depending the the wisdom

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QUOTE(Caravanserai @ Dec 30 2017, 05:41 PM)
Hi, I was comparing a few Greater China Funds and come across a fund that does not trade class "A" share (because they don't have QFII licence?).

Do you think this will affect the fund's return? unsure.gif
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no idea....
if you want, can try use the FSM tool to see
goto FUNDS INFO/ CHART CENTER/
to see and compare with your fund?

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post Dec 30 2017, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(Caravanserai @ Dec 30 2017, 07:32 PM)
Hmmn great idea.

So I compared the earnings of similar funds using FSM tool.
It seems like this fund is not performing well compared to other funds.

But still, I don't know if this is due to this fund did not trade class A shares or any other reasons.

In addition I did another check on this fund.
Their investment management has been delegated to an external investment manager, and this external investment manager do have QFII licence.
So I think the decision not to trade class A share is purely an investment strategy? unsure.gif
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i think the better option is for you to determine how each fund(s) compliments your overall investment stratergy....
may i suggest you try to use the fund(s) under the "recommneded fund lists"....they may not be the best in terms of ROIs but at least they were "filtered" in some methodology....

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...tormaincode=All

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QUOTE(Caravanserai @ Dec 30 2017, 08:00 PM)
Thanks for the tips!

I was doing some extra homework since I have few days of holiday.
But from my personal reading so far, in terms of "good funds", it frequently points back to these recommended funds. nod.gif
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caveat emptor....
just have to mention this.....
3 Misconceptions Of Our Recommended Unit Trusts List
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...July-2015--6041
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 2 2018, 11:28 AM)
For obvious reasons I don't do DCA. It doesn't make sense to buy when market is going higher at all time high. As they say high can go higher.

One can always choose to seat aside and hoard cash.

If one continue to buy at all time high, one will lack the money required to scoop out big units when  everyone wants to sell. That's a very bad situation one will face. Massive discounts but no cash to take advantage of the situation.

If want DCA,  maybe the bare min. Then when have major correction, just pump more in.
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no right or wrong on your part...it is your choice, kind of same choices for those that select to put their saving in FD or ASN

after 2010, the markets had been on the up trend ever since, if those were to just wait for another market corrections,....i am sure he would have missed alot of the opportunities.....well it is their choices, actions and preferences if they missed out some added returns.....not really missed out all returns, if they go for FD or ASN...they would have about 4~6% pa....

an all time high on an index may not mean and all time high on other indexes.
a fund that invested in the country/sector with an all time high index, may mean nothing to that fund for that fund may not be holding any of that index linked stocks.....

the real test, is whether he did have what it takes (guts and emotional steadfast) to buy in during the periodic minor corrections of 5~10% on a fund.
some funds has the tendency to moves at that rate periodically....

to see if he has what it takes to do it will not be able to determine what he preached too...for at that time, he may have other reasons to avoid going in too....
no right or wrong...just individual's preferences......it is his money and his life....

for those that are not sure...just diversify, do DCA and allocate more % to those regions with more stars ratings....bear in mind to reduce allocation to those funds that has higher 3 yrs volatility % numbers.

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 2 2018, 12:04 PM)
Yes.  It boils down to guts. No guts, no action. 
From 2008-2010, I believed it was just recovering.  So OK to go in. But bull run already on going for don't know how many years, eventually it have to stop.
Starting of a bull run,  OK.
Ending of a bull run,  better be cautious.

There's nothing wrong with sitting on too much cash. Sitting on too much cash is better than sitting on no cash.
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if those that bailed out after just 3 yrs of up swings 2010 to 2013 (scare lah...mkts had been up for 3 yrs liao...better cabut now and sit at the sidelines waiting for it to come down again)........wondering what he would have missed out...... cry.gif
well,...at least he still have about 4~6% pa.... thumbup.gif
and he got to have a good nite sleeps everynite too since 2013. thumbup.gif

for those that are interested ....

The Perils Of Forecasting And The Need For A Disciplined Investment Process
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...ss-31-May--8422

What To Do If Certain Markets Are Getting Expensive?
https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/resea...SJBlog_20150402
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QUOTE(kenny79 @ Jan 2 2018, 12:23 PM)
I'm just top up for the east spring dinasty for rm35000 .. since it still on 1% sale charge.. hopefully have a gain 10% in this year and left..
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hmm.gif what is the total % of allocation in the China/hk/taiwan regions are in your portfolio?

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jan 3 2018, 04:13 PM)
Guys, some question on managed portfolio.

For example Aggressive portfolio ; the charges are one time 1.25% and annually 0.50% in 4 quarters.
it is 0.5% Mgmt fees Per annum for asset under management....prorata deducted 4x a year...total 0.5% pa
(0.5% p.a. Portfolio Management fee (charged on a quarterly basis))


If the funds internally like Titans fund have their own management fee, will it be charged to us also?
Yes,..that is charged by the fund house not FSM

What do you guys think about the managed portfolio?
It is a still new products...track records not long......
check out FSM HK or FSM SG track records..maybe can gives some idea?


My take is that it may not be such a bad idea, assuming it meets its benchmark right? In lumpsum investments I also dare not say my 10k shot will hit 8-10% per annum, over a long period...
some forummers posted here saying their own DIY port managed to high 10% and above ROI in 2017....but just not sure about portfolio's volatility % between DIY and FSM managed port.....FSM's also did not gives "guaranteed" ROI .......... innocent.gif 
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QUOTE(jfleong @ Jan 3 2018, 04:44 PM)
Anyone here buys insurance from FSM ? What is their commission rate compared to buying via agent ?
Or should I wait until I can buy directly from the company ?
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here is what FSM says.....
"Clients can enjoy greater savings from Insurance@FSM as we are able to deliver 30% in commissions back to you. We help you in getting protected at the lowest cost possible and in turn encourage you to use the cost savings for your investments."

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/insurance/...e-insurance-fsm

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