QUOTE(Avangelice @ Aug 20 2017, 12:49 AM)
Let's see where they are going to run. SG reits have the highest dividend among all developed countries.Is still better than selina reits.
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Aug 20 2017, 12:55 AM
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Aug 20 2017, 01:09 AM
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Aug 20 2017, 01:02 AM) this makes me wonder. is it one of the reason manulife reit is SG centric because the management is SG based? No. I don't think so. If you are a S-reit investor, you will know that SGX is popular spot for foreign reits to be listed. They are not concentrated fully in SG. Some yes. Some don't even own property in SG. Hence the reit may be listed in SG, but it owns property say in HK, China, UK, US AU, JP, EU, etc. Making S-reit a truly diversified properties portfolio.so we are looking at a different fund/return/risk altogether kan? Naturally, a diversified s-reits have forex risk. Some hedge, some don't hedge. Some pegged the returns to SGD. Same can be said if the reit is concentrated in SG alone only. It's exposed fully to SG economy. Here's a full list of S-reits and business trust (which behave like reit but is not a reit) http://reitdata.com/category/yield/ This post has been edited by Ramjade: Aug 20 2017, 01:13 AM |
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Aug 27 2017, 12:45 AM
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Aug 26 2017, 11:45 PM) Been busy with work and trading some crypto currencies and have neglected reading this thread. Good for you. Cryto is the way to go in the future. Quite disruptive the tech (banking/verification industry) The tech won't die but the coines may die. The tech is definitely here to stay when you know alibaba is also using blockchain tech to counter food fraud and you know food fraud is big issue in china.Came here after a long time, and gesh, the discussion does get pretty long lol and heated in here lolĀ Anyway, planning to invest some of my profits from my trading into KGF but dont know if its the right time to do it now. After seeing the returns being achieved by crypto's, dont really have the feeling of investing in UTs anymore though I seriously do not want to maintain my current portfolio of having more than 90% of my cash parked in cryptocurrencies as i know that I wrong move and i'll wipe the whole value of my portfolio. QUOTE(Avangelice @ Aug 27 2017, 12:37 AM) seems everyone is on the band wagon of cyptos even dividend magic. not gonna invest something that's not regulated Well forex is not recognise in malaysia too in case you didn't know but people still make good money off it. Er, you do know you can invest in crypto without owning a single coin right? You can invest in graphics card company (the engine behind cryto as they need graphics card to obtain cryto This post has been edited by Ramjade: Aug 27 2017, 01:19 AM |
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Sep 6 2017, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Sep 6 2017, 11:47 AM) Smart ppl won't last in this industry, good sales man would. He left the profession btw The answer is EPF. Last time EPF only allow people to invest in UT invested locally hence everyone dump into KGF as KGF beats EPF.Actually the discussion about KGF being too big started since the AUM was RM600m. But the CIO continues to pleasantly suprise us. I tend to agree that it's an uphill battle to maintain stellar performance with such a big fund size. Many large funds like PM local funds, CIMB Dali funds and even the ASx funds suffer this fate. Just saying you don't have to sell the fund entirely just yet. Maybe don't sailang on it either As to PRS being a factor, I seriously doubt it, the PRS growth fund size baru RM40million. I can't begin to express my dissapointment over the whole PRS scheme. Such a opportunity loss on the policy maker side |
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Sep 7 2017, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE(wkalvin @ Sep 7 2017, 04:45 PM) Is that means PRS without sales charge All PRS if bought from FSM got no service charge.PRIVATE RETIREMENT SCHEME (PRS) Private Retirement Scheme - Moderate Affin Hwang PRS Moderate Fund 6 9.76 2.29 11.09 20.64 21.64 - 0 Buy this PRS! Private Retirement Scheme - Conservative Kenanga OnePRS Conservative Fund 4 5.31 0.77 5.48 11.01 13.59 - 0 Buy this PRS! Private Retirement Scheme - Growth Kenanga OnePRS Growth Fund 8 12.94 0.51 12.52 22.06 22.24 - 0 Buy this PRS! |
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Sep 7 2017, 10:26 PM
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Sep 7 2017, 10:41 PM
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Sep 13 2017, 11:50 PM
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Sep 14 2017, 10:12 AM
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Sep 18 2017, 09:26 PM
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Sep 19 2017, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE(subang-boy @ Sep 19 2017, 11:42 PM) i've read all the basic bout UT, and I did read few book bout stock. Stock is more clear than UT, because UT it's a group of many shares, besides playing with ONE strategy - hold 3 yrs at least, I can't find any other factor to 'win' in this kind of investment. I simply pick recommended fund then that's bout it.. Recommended fund is just a start. You can hold 3 years, you can act within 1 year if situation is needed. Some good funds are not in the recommended list. UT sifu, how u guys can predict a fund can go up to 50% a yr a? I already lost, the more I read the more I lost. How you know it will go up? UT is a basket of stocks of some underlying business. If the business is good, stock price go up. If say 60% of the stock in the basket go up vs 40% of the others, the fund price will increase. Hence you make a paper profit until you sell them off then it's real profit. If you don't and if things go bad, the price of the stocks reverse, hence the fund also drop. Good business share will always go up in the long run. You only need to worry if the fund manager pick a bad business to invest in. Not many fund can move 50% in a year. Could be a one off event as most "good fund" move ~10%p.a. No one can predict the future. Of course, if global market were to crash next day, no UT will survive. If Malaysia market crash, other market will still survive. Hope this help. This post has been edited by Ramjade: Sep 20 2017, 12:09 AM |
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Sep 20 2017, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE(subang-boy @ Sep 20 2017, 12:07 AM) just buy recommended ut is better than listening to unit trust agent, i think that's bout it, unit trust is not like stock where real skill is required. unit trust u put long and wait, and happy, that's bout it. if u want to put effort in boosting ur income gaogao with unit trust better drive uber better. Not true. If you think that's how it works, that's just level 1. There's level 2, level 3. That is one strategy. Another one is predict which market will outperform in short term, be heavy in that market then run.Uber you need to work. This one is seat at home and click click. This post has been edited by Ramjade: Sep 20 2017, 12:16 AM |
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Sep 20 2017, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(subang-boy @ Sep 20 2017, 09:12 AM) fund managers do that for a living, yet they have real solid skill to make it work 100%, if not why some promised fund not performing? those hit positive are false positive, it's just luck sometime. No one can get it right 100% of the time. Unlesshow many yrs of exp of investing in UT u have? ur pure profit how much till now? a newbie who know nothing can beat u by simply picking recommended and never look at it for 3 yrs. It's bout capital bro, put 100k u make some money, it's still better than plying with 30k switch here and there so called driven by strategy haha. 1) they can see the future 2) they use computer (there is a particular fund in the US created by MIT people which is able to churn out 20-90+%p.a over 10 years+ even during 2008. No one knows what that fund is investing into and how it invest. It's a "blackbox fund" and only few have acesss to it) As MUM mentioned, what recommended fund would you buy? All? True you can do that buy recommended and come back after 3 years. But what happen if today you buy, tomorrow global economy sell off? You can come back 3 years later but as we all know the world is only recovering from GFC in 2008. How much return will you get if like that? Like you said yourself, "they have no real solid skill to make it work 100%" so how sure you know recommended fund can still perform? There are some recommended fund not performing so well too you know and there are unrecommened funds which perform very well Eg 1 Buy recommended fund after one year give you 10% which is RM10k Eg 2 Buy unrecommended fund base on one analysis give you 20% which is RM20k Possible? You betcha. Happen before? Yes. How ah like that? Headache This post has been edited by Ramjade: Sep 20 2017, 10:38 AM |
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Sep 21 2017, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Sep 21 2017, 03:25 PM) Well he's asking how does one makes money from UT and how sure a fund can go up 50% in one year? Why need to learn how to pick funds? Just close eye and buy recommended funds. Come back after 3 years sure make money. Well I answered his questions and look like he's not satisfied with my answer. |
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QUOTE(T231H @ Sep 22 2017, 03:47 AM) read this and I hope that wisdom would be graced upon you and any other followers intending to buy based on guesses..... I think you should tag that person CS if one just tossed of a coin to buy some of the shown recommended funds 3 years ago as in the chart, then keep it for 3 years.... he would have remember it is the % of returns that matters to some when comparing returns for the effectiveness of investing styles. not the amount of money put in. A put in RM100k get returns of RM 5000 B put in RM 10k get returns of RM 4000 you are CORRECT ....A earns more money than B but who is more "effective and efficient" ? think over it. |
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QUOTE(skynode @ Sep 22 2017, 10:48 PM) I wonder if China bad debts cause some kind of havoc globally (S&P just downgraded china credit rating) how bad will bond market react or it won't even blink an eye |
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Sep 24 2017, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(savvyaunty @ Sep 24 2017, 09:26 PM) Saw the launch of this new fund by CIMB. Any comments? No point launch new fund/perform very well if FSM does not carry it.http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...al-equity-fund/ |
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Sep 25 2017, 10:57 PM) I also ended up with moderately aggressive portfolio. It seems the choice of funds across the portfolios are the same. Just the allocation % will vary If want to go into SG, better to take what real white people are doing "robo ETF investing" rather than pseudo ETF robo (FSM MAPS/POEMS SMART)Actually if you are interested with the other product offerings, FSM SG is a lot more interesting. Jom change some SGD, 3.11 is lowest since nov16 Correction. The lowest was early this year 3.085. |
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