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Hansel
post Aug 21 2019, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(CardNoob @ Aug 21 2019, 03:04 PM)
Trump wants 1% cut!
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Mkt rates traders and bond prices are estimating a highest cut of only 50 basis points, or 0.5% cut,... 100 bps cut will surely kena lots of loan defaults in 1 year from now,.... but, well,... I'm speaking only from basic economic theory,...


QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 21 2019, 03:07 PM)
Other country affected by trade war but US not affected yet (jobs still strong). The reason they cut was blondie making a fuss about rates too high. In his speech (Jerome) said is just a temporary or something midcycle.
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Emm,... yeah... Unemployment Data and Jobs Added Numbers are continuing to beat expectations,.. BUT,.. who knows, maybe they're fiddling with the expected numbers,... HOwever,.. why is the Inflation Number not going up ? Again, speaking from basic economic theory....

He said : Insurance Cut. Good job numbers BUT still cut,... first in history,... blink.gif


QUOTE(xcxa23 @ Aug 21 2019, 04:35 PM)
in fact
trump considering temporary payroll tax cut
i wonder why  biggrin.gif
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He learnt from his 'tactic' two years ago when he lowered the income tax rates for the corporations, and that got some good earnings numbers coming out from the corporates. Consumer Confidence Number rose, The Michigan Institute said a lot of good things. But that euphoria has died down,.. Now he wants to employ the same tactic again.

Anyway, Mr Kudlow said White Hse said no payroll tax cut anymore....

Then blondie said maybe implement no capital gains tax,.... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Might as well say no 30% dividend tax for NRA investors,.... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


QUOTE(pisces88 @ Aug 21 2019, 05:02 PM)
FSM non callable Tropicana bond @ 7% anyone? biggrin.gif
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7% ? High chance of default when FTSE Russell pulls out Msian Sovereign Bonds from its index,...
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post Aug 23 2019, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 20 2019, 02:00 PM)
Delay. Not removing or reversing. China doesn't have the firepower of Google. Yes Google doesn't exist in China. But can countries like SEA/E/India  survive without using Google map? Who's going to buy Huawei phone outside China if it doesn't come with Google? Yes that you sideload Google in but majority of people won't buy if there's no Google backing.

Another thing is China have less things to tax than US. They can banned soya but US can always force smaller countries to buy the soya from them (not doing yet).

China doesn't have any winning chance against US.
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Aug 20 2019, 03:50 PM)
Just like the OS, China can always design another 'Google-like app' if it's really necessary,...

China kust needs to weaken its currency to match the US,...

Let's see,...

I read that some products have been removed from the latest tariff initiative,... others, mainly 'Christmas season' products have been delayed. Let's see if the US delays those products again,.. or if there is another 'trick' that they can do to reverse, and at the same time, save their faces too !

Whatever it is,... I suspect the Dec 15th tariff is already priced-in to asset prices already,...it could be a non-event after all when December comes,...
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 20 2019, 04:06 PM)
China may have their own OS but no point if you cannot get anyone to use it other than China people right? China is mainly playing jaguh kampung but cannot compete against the giants of US companies. Tencent, Badiu all does not have the power of google search engine or it's gmail.
No microsoft/adobe alternative from China as well. Until they can shake off the jaguh kmapung and compete head to head against US companies, the will forever lose to US. US companies will rather applease Trump then risk losing business (lose one market but still keep other market)
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So,... who is to say China is not developing their GPS further ???

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/China-tech...han-US-original
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post Aug 27 2019, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 27 2019, 02:05 PM)
sweat.gif those considering of going into Bond as DIY.....
just be prepare for any possibilities......

Singapore faces rising tide of bad debt with record bonds maturing
Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...K2mVLCRcefTu.99

The nation has already been rocked by the high-profile collapse of water treatment firm Hyflux Ltd.
Excluding banks, borrowers in the Singapore dollar bond market face a record S$12 billion ($8.6 billion) of bonds maturing next year, according to Bloomberg-compiled data.
Repayment may be a challenge for some companies at a time when Singapore’s manufacturing sector contracted 3.1% in the second quarter from the previous year, while the wholesale and retail trade sector shrank 3.2%.
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Utico (an infrastructure asset company based in The UAE) has taken an 88% stake (if my memory serves me correctly),... let's see how much this will help the Preference Shares and Perp Securities holders,... let's see if Hyflux is able to pull itself out of this mess,.... and how much it can salvage back for these holders,..

This gauging is important to observe, with this, we will now what happens when such a company like this fail again in future,.. which is, quite rare for this to happen.
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post Aug 28 2019, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Aug 28 2019, 07:02 AM)
Hyflux collapsed last year under the weight of a debt pile of nearly S$3 billion,

About 34,000 small investors who bought the company's perpetual securities and preference shares are owed a total of $900 million.

Utico had earlier agreed to take an 88 per cent stake in Hyflux through a $300 million equity injection and a $100 million shareholder loan,

data from https://www.straitstimes.com/business/compa...ned-rescue-deal

as you had pointed out...."let's see if Hyflux is able to pull itself out of this mess,.... and how much it can salvage back for these holders,.."

hmm.gif Will those perpetual securities and preference shares holders be at the Tail END of the chain of creditors settlement?
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Yeah bro,... there has been many changes and many news regarding initiatives at Hyflux. LOts of numbers and calculations here and there. Even inveortors in SG who attended the town hall mtgs are also confused - they are just eaoting to see how much they will get back.

A few years ago, when I saw the 6% being offered by the Hyflux Preps, I was tempted too. But,... gut feel told me not to touch this, don;t know why,... hence, did not buy,...fortunately,...

Today, I am watching this to see how this would turn out. With this experience, we will be able to 'guesstimate' how an event like this will turn out in future. This is important. SG does not fail much in this way,.. but things still do happen,... it's okay, just one GLC failing like this,..

Unlike in neighbouring Kangkong Land,... But Kangkong Land has gov't bailout - still okay, I guessed,... but then not fair to taxpayers-lar,...
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Aug 28 2019, 07:02 AM)
Hyflux collapsed last year under the weight of a debt pile of nearly S$3 billion,

About 34,000 small investors who bought the company's perpetual securities and preference shares are owed a total of $900 million.

Utico had earlier agreed to take an 88 per cent stake in Hyflux through a $300 million equity injection and a $100 million shareholder loan,

data from https://www.straitstimes.com/business/compa...ned-rescue-deal

as you had pointed out...."let's see if Hyflux is able to pull itself out of this mess,.... and how much it can salvage back for these holders,.."

hmm.gif Will those perpetual securities and preference shares holders be at the Tail END of the chain of creditors settlement?
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Yes - in terms of seniority of loans, these holders would be quite low at the hierarchy ! Let's see,... I can't comment too much,... BUT,... I hoped the mgmt will do something for these holders,... then we will understand the governance there,....
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post Aug 29 2019, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Aug 29 2019, 02:06 PM)
There is no precedence on extremely low interest rate environment I think.
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There is one precedence - everytime a recession hits, central banks would start to initiate a low interest rate environment in their jurisdiction to counter the recession. And everytime a low interest rate environment creeps in slowly, the economy would improve gradually.

So,... today, the US Feds start to put in insurance cuts !,... which means starting to initiate the low interest rate environment BEFORE an actual recession hits. Many other central banks in the world are starting to follow this cut, and hence, starting to cut their own policy rates.

We are now in front of the curve !
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post Sep 4 2019, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Sep 4 2019, 12:10 AM)
thus....do we see recession arriving soon?

bruce.gif  bruce.gif Be Happy, Don't worry......still have not see any major changes in the 5 economic indicators  biggrin.gif
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Actually, bro,... for this person in the following, a recession is really a godsend for him to enter more into the mkt :-

1) he has personal funds 'WAITING' in FD or low-risk instruments waiting to be deployed, AND/OR....

2) he has entered into the mkt earlier at large margins-of-safety, ie with very low holding prices and is looking to average-up for more returns.

Without a recession, at today's prices, there is just no way to go in safely anymore,...
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post Sep 4 2019, 11:53 AM

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The US Manufacturing Data shrinking shown last night is A Start ! Whatever tariffs put in place last year and this year needed time to trickle down into the rest of the economy,...

When I woke up this morning and saw this piece of data,... this alerted me to the fact that finally, the data has arrived. Everything has been great and better for so many months and years,...
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post Sep 4 2019, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Sep 4 2019, 11:52 AM)
Recession usually takes place 1-2 years after the 2y10y yield inversion. But since so many are so aware of this coming recession, i wonder if it will still happen. My gut feeling is that instead of a full blown recession, we might only instead get a deep correction.
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QUOTE(CardNoob @ Sep 4 2019, 11:53 AM)
How many times the inversion had happened this year?
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Somehow, in today's environment, I wouldn't depend on this 2y10y yield inversion reading anymore,... MOre people are buying into 10y bonds and Tresuries because there is just too much low-cost money around, and there is nowhere deemed safe to put them.

Hence, park into the longest yield instruments, which are deemed as the SAFEST instruments of today.

In the earlier days, when bank interest rates were not this low, then acceptance rates of 2y and 10y instruments may be a good indicator because people needed to think carefully where to put their non-infinite funds for acceptable returns. Even then, the recession prediction may only come true after years,.. it could be a fluke,..

Anyway, things are much different today,... there are too much funds around.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Sep 4 2019, 11:38 AM)
some says China can wait till End of Nov next year, but Trump cannot.
someone has to blink between now and then....? sad.gif
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BBerg reported this morning POTUS said if he gets re-elected for the second term next year, negotiations will be even tougher for China,... so how ? Looks like he thinks the Americans still preferred to have the trade war, right ? ... since he dared to declare this,....
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Maybe US POTUS and Chinese Premier 'pakat' to make money,... hehehe,...
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post Sep 4 2019, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Sep 4 2019, 03:31 PM)
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while they kiss and make money...

In the mean time I lost money in Aug19. Another five figure lost. 2% M-o-M lost.

Even defensive is no longer defensive. REITS pun kena hit.

Xuzen
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Sorry to hear this, bro,...
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post Sep 21 2019, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Sep 20 2019, 12:56 PM)
If I understand bonds correctly, the yields are fixed.
If I buy RM100/unit of bond X with a return of 6%, I will get constantly get RM6 every year.

However I can sell my share of the bond at a more expensive rate during a down turn or during interest rate drop. For example I can sell my bond at RM103/unit that still gives a return of RM6 annually.

So the value of the bonds are now priced at rm103 (+3%) and that increases the bond funds "NAV". Take note that the returns is always the same , 6% of RM100 = RM6.

Similarly if people are selling it cheaper say RM101(~-2%), that decreases the bond fund "NAV" and decreases the bond fund value.
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Sep 21 2019, 07:54 PM)
Bond interest rate (or coupon rate) is fixed, but yield is not.

Interest rate is based on par value, which is fixed. (Except in the case of floating rate bond.) Yield is based on market price, which varies.

In your example, you get the 6% interest provided there is no default.
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Emm,... I look at it this way, bros,...

Using the top eg,... and staying with a fixed rate bond as eg,... not floating rate bond,...

Bond X, when first launched, declares RM6 as the coupon amt for every year till maturity. The par value is RM100.

When times are good, people sell bonds to buy equities, hence demand drops, price drops to, say RM101, coupon amt of RM6 remains, yield goes up to 6/101 = 5.94%.

When times are bad, people sell equities to buy bonds, hence demand rises, price increases to, say RM103, coupon amt remains at RM6, yield then goes down to 6/103 = 5.83%.

Times are good, bond yield goes up.

Times are bad, bond yield goes down.
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QUOTE(MUM @ Sep 23 2019, 11:42 AM)
today till NOW is already another +7%.....

not yet too late to enter into Manu India in the start of the rally this time after the corporate tax cut?
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Sep 23 2019, 12:05 PM)
Personally I am bias against India. Their market can have some huge wild swings. Scary. I prefer a more incremental but consistent performing market.
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I have been watching India too since the elections and Mr Modi's win. The policy rate was lowered and corp tax rates were cut,... looks like a lot of stimulus in Mr Modi's gov't,...

My proxy to the India mkt is from the ctr, Ascendas India Trust in the SGX,... AND,...the price has been rising,...

https://finance.yahoo.com/chart/CY6U.SI#eyJ...nQifX19fQ%3D%3D
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QUOTE(Drian @ Sep 22 2019, 02:35 PM)
It should be the other way round demand drops , prices of bonds go down. If the demand goes down , why would anyone pay rm101 for a rm100 bond par value. It would be rm99 or rm98 to make the yield more attractive.
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Ok,... sure,.. I was comparing the RM101 against the RM103. We can use the bond price being sold even BELOW the par value too,... sure.

But,... unfortunately,... for the bonds I have been watching to go in to,... I really have no chance to buy-in below par value. THe most, is the bond price drops back very near to the par value.

Hence, I will never be able to enjoy the security of a safe (and slightly profitable) redemption without risks of default and extension,...

No luck in bonds for myself,... I guessed,... just sharing here,...
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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Oct 11 2019, 09:58 PM)
2020, local REITS. yes or no?
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But I did not hear any incentives announced, unlike last year,... did anybody hear any incentives at all please ?
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Oct 12 2019, 09:33 AM)
hmm.gif maybe he was referring to the budget announcement regarding to Putrajaya on lowering threshold for foreign buyers from RM1 mill to RM600k?
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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Oct 12 2019, 10:16 AM)
yes i am smile.gif
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Oct 12 2019, 10:21 AM)
i dont think it will effect commercial property REIT
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Ok,... That lowering of threshold is for residential property only, right ?
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QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 12 2019, 05:55 PM)
will the next trading day be the start of better ones to one to come till Nov?.

Trump hails 'Phase 1' of trade deal with China
President Donald Trump, speaking from the Oval Office, said negotiators had reached a “Phase 1” agreement that would take several weeks to write and that both sides could officially sign by November.

The announcement is a sharp turn from several weeks ago, when the president — angry over China’s retaliatory tariffs — demanded that American companies stop doing business with China and threatened to tax every toy, shoe and computer from Beijing before the year’s end.
The escalation has rattled investors and businesses, which have begun delaying investment and hiring amid continuing uncertainty about the trade war’s trajectory.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/1770649/t...deal-with-china

hmm.gif 1 month to place your bet for some quick bucks before the next Nov's tweet?  devil.gif
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He can always say that China has again 'reneged' on this agreement and is unwilling to sign now. He can do this anytime, between now and November.
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post Oct 16 2019, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Oct 15 2019, 11:51 PM)
SPX hit 3000 again.
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Yeah, the Dow hitting past 27k points again - due to good results from US Banks and United Health reported early this morning. Start of US Earnings season now.
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Oct 16 2019, 10:22 AM)
I'm trimming a little to take some profits off the top.
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Yes, many fund mgrs are advising this now,... take some profits every now and then in these times.

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