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post Jun 14 2019, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Streetrat @ Jun 14 2019, 03:55 PM)
Ta tech 10%, United Global 15%, Manureits 25%.

Thinking should sell both and in manureits or not, diversify at the moment macam tak boleh pakai.
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Ta tech 10%, United Global 15% = 15% in Global Tech sector....which is also about 10% of US Tech Equities....
hope that allocation is ok with you....
(a 10% drop in Nasdaq may drops your port by 2%)

Diversification helps to smooten the portfolio volatility.....
current Equities volatility is being helped by FI, Reits, India, Gold and Tech...
(check the YTD ROIs of Gold, India, Tech)

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post Jun 14 2019, 04:50 PM

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as per Sui Jau's blog....
"The most important advice I would give to anyone who hasn't started (be it man or woman) and is being held back is to starting investing now, but use a small amount. Something you are comfortable with even if you suffer losses. It can be as little as one thousand dollars because that is usually all you need to start investing into a unit trust. Then, as you invest, you will see how markets and such affect your returns and you will be able to learn from your experiences without suffering too much heartache compared to if you placed your entire life savings into the market and lose half of it in a market crash. The key thing is you have to accumulate investing experience. No amount of prior reading up and accumulating of knowledge can compare with actual investing experience which can only be built up by using your own money to invest. You have to experience the emotional pull that comes from market ups and downs and learn how to handle your emotions during those times. And learning from mistakes made is the greatest teacher."

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post Jun 14 2019, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jun 14 2019, 05:12 PM)
Fixed portfolio allocation always seems to screw me. So I stop doing that and start being more flexible on which fund to buy n sell when need to.
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hmm.gif this is interesting...something like thematic investing? or sort of go with the current flow?
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post Jun 14 2019, 07:58 PM

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if a port has anything China/HK, Asia Pac & Kenanga Growth in it...for the past 2 yrs....not good already...
1st half of 2017 was a good year, thus many would have entered "at peak"...
2nd half of 2017 was a year then some of those funds started to stagnant.
2018 was NOT a year for those fund.
1st few months of 2019 was a good year....

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post Jun 15 2019, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(Zegoon681111 @ Jun 14 2019, 11:48 PM)
My funds all equities, need to start to put in bond funds now sweat.gif
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there was a forummer that did good with just 1 single sector Eq fund .....
depends on what you liked that have.....
if need to readjust the portfolio volatility, after having experienced the misery of it ....one should make changes to the portfolio composition to reflect the risk appetite at the current and next few months foreseen environment.

after all it is your money and your actions that can make you sleep better at night without much worry about the movement of the market indexes daily.

just do take note about this....
QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jun 14 2019, 02:11 PM)
..........
I would recond all in bond. A few to be exact Some bond are high risk too.
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post Jun 16 2019, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(Zegoon681111 @ Jun 15 2019, 11:49 PM)
I have ASNB as well, buying slowly when I have the luck of getting units.

6% is only an example biggrin.gif

Will you just buy a good equity fund and leave it for like 10 years?
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most would buy...
maybe not "a" equity fund,
most probably a few equity funds,
what was GOOD previously and NOW, may not be GOOD 3 months down the road, when compared with funds of the same mandates.
thus, most would not just leave "a" fund un monitored for 10 yrs....
unless the expected returns is about 6%pa...then ASNB/EPF would be a good bet to leave money in it and forget for 10 yrs.
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post Jun 17 2019, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jun 17 2019, 09:55 PM)
Anyway.

It's not too late yet to noticed the danger side of UT hahhaha.
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post Jun 18 2019, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(Streetrat @ Jun 18 2019, 10:09 AM)
Anyone else got stuck with Quantum/Japan/Kenanga? what will you guys do?just cut the lost and focus on others?
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Do you only has those funds in yr port?.
What are the value of each of those funds in relations to yr investable money in % terms?
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post Jun 18 2019, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(Streetrat @ Jun 18 2019, 10:36 AM)
DIY only
Quantum around 5.8%
Japan 9%
Kenanga 14%
DIY + MPF
Quantum 3.7
Japan 6%
Kenanga 9%
MPF 35%
I understand that its up to me and no right or wrong, just want to ask for some suggestions and ideas to consider. Thank you very much.
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DIY + MPF
Quantum 3.7
Japan 6%
Kenanga 9%
MPF 35%

with these <10% on each of this "higher" risk funds....(single country focused),
not much effect to the port if one were to "runaway" to other "higher" risk funds...unless completely mitigates to FI funds.

not right or wrong....based on those appetite,
i would, if i had those risk appetite, would just continue to "Hold" unless has continuos surplus flow of money, then i buy in more.
i would, if i had abit of reduction of those initial risk appetite, would still "Hold", but buy into some others for diversifications

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QUOTE(chooeh2 @ Jun 18 2019, 11:10 AM)
Those who believe must have a look at it!  Hopefully somebody can come out and rebuke it!

Sorry only in Mandarin!

DCA myth

https://youtu.be/U_A95yWC2eI
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in brief...what does it shows/proof?
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post Jun 18 2019, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(Streetrat @ Jun 18 2019, 11:35 AM)
Will there be a situation that both US and GC both go down together?
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yes, many times, at times more than 2% a day and very frequent too....

check the trend charts from 2018 till end of May 2019, see how many times that happened

but in the end....history will just says "that is just a normal bump" like a road bump on our daily route to work.

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post Jun 19 2019, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(yfiona @ Jun 19 2019, 09:27 AM)
It stated something like DCA only helps to smoothen out the cost of the investment but not neccessarily will guaranteed the positive return, you still need to choose a fund that in generally moving up only the DCA method workout to generate positive income in the long run.
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post Jun 20 2019, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(inquiries @ Jun 19 2019, 11:58 PM)
By the way, regardless of how poor a fund perform (even when it is below the benchmark), the fund manager would always say "seeing this is a long term investment, we believe our fund is performing well".

Has anyone seen a fund manager opening say "oh, we are not performing well"? Haha. Regardless of the negative returns etc, the sales agents are going to quote the same Annual Report and say they are "performing well".. Of course some public will feel cheated.
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on this "how poor a fund perform (even when it is below the benchmark),"
I personally don't compare against the benchmark to determine if the fund is performing or not....
because the fund maybe better than benchmark while below its peers.

see the attached image.......

on this "Has anyone seen a fund manager opening say "oh, we are not performing well"? "
Yes i did.....i personally approached that designated FM during their FH organised dinner at a posh hotel in 2016.
i showed printed data showing the performance trends of his fund vs funds of similar mandate.....
he took a look at the printed data asked me how i gathered them and what he said next shocked me.....he said, "well honestly, i am also not very pleased with the it, but we are working at it."

i guess they did.......since 2016, they are almost on par with those funds that i compared with...
i asked the regioanl manager in 2018, and asked what happened, she told me that she had observed that, the FM had recomposed, reallocated the composition and allocation % of countries in that region to be nearer to the rivals.

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jun 20 2019, 07:53 AM)
That's why invest in UT also need some knowledge. Not give money and give FM do all shit. Because some FM really eat shit. Look at the funds out there. Even in FSM, not every fund perform. We must look into it and cherry pick the funds.

As investors mist clearly know what we are invested in.
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post Jun 20 2019, 10:36 AM

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2 yrs ago....was a good year....thus they, we follow herds. They also cannit see the future.
Just last month i was abt to suggest to my niece to start rsp investment as a additional form of saving....
I want to expose him to rhb islamic bond for its no fees n stable returns for the pass many years....
Luckily i hv not started to tell him as last month was just his 1st yr at the work n just completed having emergency fund set up.....
Tis mth that fund dropped
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jun 20 2019, 10:41 AM)
I suggest ambon Islam instead. For syariah compliant bond.
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Thks...any platform or redemption fees or under rsp lists?....
Now no pc to googke fsm
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counting the CHICKEN before they are hatch again ....just for the shiok sendiri. biggrin.gif
recovered my 2018 losses already...(again sad.gif )

hope your guys are having the same performance uptrend...... thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jun 11 2019, 11:17 AM)
Previous M-o-M report for Algozen™ ver four:

The portfolio made a loss of 0.9% M-o-M [ May 2019 ].

The main contributor for the loss came from China exposure ( no surprise actually ) which I had about 15% exposure.

The bond part [ Asnita ] and Manureits  mitigated the loss.

I have shifted half of my China exposure to US through RHB GS US Equity. Since both Trump and Xi likes to quarrel, one's gain is another's loss, I bet on bothlah! Whoever wins or lose, my port stays more or less the same. This is not the time to be gung-ho, it is time to be a cautious investor.

In the mean time, let REIT and bond slowly do their work.

Xuzen
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you go to US
they Asia X Jpn fund also go US....
(see attached image, note the differnt in allocation within 1 month)

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jun 20 2019, 09:59 PM)
counting the CHICKEN before they are hatch again ....just for the shiok sendiri. biggrin.gif
recovered my 2018 losses already...(again sad.gif )

hope your guys are having the same performance uptrend...... thumbup.gif
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active income stopped voluntarily and hopefully it will be temporally (2 yrs time)....
just switched out 80% of UT invested amount to plan to settle housing loan.

remaining 20% is currently in

8% PM asia ittikal (for its group insurance purposes)
16% Cimb Asia Pac PRS
76% in Manureits

sticking to the principles of
never invest with money you cannot afford to lose
never invest with the money you will not touch for a few years

hope these nevers are the right one this time round... blush.gif
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QUOTE(idyllrain @ Jun 23 2019, 10:07 PM)
Post 1 files are severely outdated by now. The most updated version is here: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry91302147

Anyway, since AIYH is no longer active here, should we start a new thread with someone who can actually update the first post?
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thanks for your input...
until that happens...
temporarily placed this link in page1 post 8.....
among my collection of interesting lists of links and info...
for quick reference to those that needed them
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post Jun 24 2019, 05:56 PM

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not a trick question....

as we had known....ex date is the date of dividend distribution right?
during dividend distribution normally the fund's NAV would drop right?

Q1: will the NAV drop on Ex date or day after ex date?

if one sell transact date is on Ex date,.....
Q2: will he get the ex date NAVs without the extra distributed units?

or he will get the ex date NAV + the distributed units?


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