Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

70 Pages « < 27 28 29 30 31 > » Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 FundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

views
     
Ramjade
post May 18 2017, 01:38 PM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
24,431 posts

Joined: Feb 2011



QUOTE(frankzane @ May 18 2017, 01:28 PM)
I wonder why so many of us here bought/suggested Affin Hwang Select Bond when it is not a recommended fund by FSM?

Sifus perhaps you all can shed some lights?
*
1) returns is consistent in the 6-7%. No fluctuation.
2) volatility is low.

If it's not good, money wouldn't flow in once FSM MY reopen it for sale. Fund size swell drastically once it was reopen for sale by FSM.

If you compare with Malaysian funds, malaysian bonds sucks. See the results from Trump tantrum.

user posted image

QUOTE(screwedpeep @ May 18 2017, 01:33 PM)
I don't think there would be significant dip for msian bonds. When there were huge outflows of money from MGS last year, not much effect on msia bonds. I hold RHB Islamic Bond since early 2016. The gain is slow, but steady. There were ups and downs but nothing so impactful. The sail has been good. Unless US Fed raise their interest so significantly, then we should be worry of further and bigger outflows, of which i think would trigger BNM to do something to contain it nevertheless.
*
See the pic above.
Ramjade
post May 18 2017, 01:45 PM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
24,431 posts

Joined: Feb 2011



QUOTE(screwedpeep @ May 18 2017, 01:44 PM)
That was when the huge outflows started. But i would take it as a once off. Were there any such big depreciation afterwards? Nope. I'm in for a long haul. One two nyamuk bite, give and take lah. three? Four? Suddenly everyday lengan got bintik2? Go buy ridsect lah. In this case, time to re evaluate and get out.
*
I am just showing why affin hawng is superior to malaysian bond fund. Never say never. Things can happen again.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: May 18 2017, 01:46 PM
Ramjade
post May 18 2017, 01:51 PM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
24,431 posts

Joined: Feb 2011



QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 18 2017, 01:49 PM)
please be advised that the recommended fund list was created before Affin Hwang Select Bond Fund was incepted into the system which was just recently (October 2016)  previously it was not open to us fsm customers.
*
Eh, it was opened then close to us.
Ramjade
post May 18 2017, 08:32 PM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
24,431 posts

Joined: Feb 2011



QUOTE(thesnake @ May 18 2017, 08:20 PM)
guys Amasia Pacific REITS or Manulife REITS better? Planning to buy into this fund to expand my portfolio.
*
Trust me. Go with manulife. Amasia is still 1.xx since Sept last year. Manulife 5.xx since December.
People will tell you go for amasia due to lower volatility but I tell you amasia is lousy. 6 months+ still stuck at 1%. Don't believe me, just buy both in equal amount, hold for one year and you will see what I meant. That way you will know which is better. Recommend you to wait until next US interest hike.
Ramjade
post May 18 2017, 08:53 PM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
24,431 posts

Joined: Feb 2011



QUOTE(puchongite @ May 18 2017, 08:44 PM)
1% return for closed to 8 months, better go with affin hwang select bond. Can sleep soundly.
*
Precisely. Wait for at least 1 year. Who knows it can gove FD rates.
Ramjade
post May 19 2017, 02:24 PM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
24,431 posts

Joined: Feb 2011



QUOTE(frankzane @ May 19 2017, 02:18 PM)
Ok, so now I wanted to invest into my first bond fund.

Which would you suggest?
*
Just go with affin hwang select bond fund.
Ramjade
post May 20 2017, 11:26 AM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
24,431 posts

Joined: Feb 2011



QUOTE(plumberly @ May 20 2017, 11:10 AM)
Was into UT many years but later stayed away from it with a 10 km pole (except my PRS UT). Why? High charges (eg annual management fee even when the UT is loosing money), many UTs are not making money, just draining clients money via the fees here and there (eg EPF reported that most UT purchases via EPF withdrawals were on negative returns), UT managers own inside play, etc.

Seeing some UT with high returns (>10% pa) over the past 5-10 years. So like to study this again and see whether I should try it again.

Saw somewhere that when XYZ buys a UT via FSM,
AA
the UT will be bought under FSM's name
BB
FSM will then state x units in their book belong to XYZ.

Is this true?

Thanks.
*
I am sorry to hear that. My guess is you must be cheated by agents or simply buy the wrong fund (happen to me before - I choose the wrong fund, paid service charge of 5.5% and get board rates FD return after 3 years sad.gif ). Now after finding out about FSM and learning about UT (yes, you need to learn how to buy
Cannot main tembak), it's a whole different story. My return so far ~10% since sept 2016 (including service charge)

For me, fees are worth paying if the fund manager is good. If you want to save on fees, go for ETF investing. You won't beat the market but you will get market returns.

Smartly and stashaway in Singapore are going to be ready for investors in 2017. Stashaway will officially open doors in June 2017. Stashaway will charge 0.8% pa platform fees for amount less than SGD25k.
Smartly will charge I think 0.5% pa. Both are automatic robo ETF investing platform which means no monitoring on your part. Buy and forget. You can start with I think SGD1k?

Anyway, back to topic. Yes it's under FSM name but nothing to worry about as it's held separately. Each account is held as a trust. So if something happen to FSM, they cannot touch your money as it's held with a trustee. It's licensed by BNM to buy/sell UT.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: May 20 2017, 11:33 AM
Ramjade
post May 20 2017, 11:27 AM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
24,431 posts

Joined: Feb 2011



QUOTE(puchongite @ May 20 2017, 11:19 AM)
Xuzen your comment is needed about about Interpac dana safi and Interpac Dynamic. These two funds are the Malaysian top performing funds, upto 34% YTD.

Are these funds becoming money game and bursting soon ?
*
Once election over, euphoria also over.
Ramjade
post May 20 2017, 11:27 AM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
24,431 posts

Joined: Feb 2011



double post

This post has been edited by Ramjade: May 20 2017, 11:28 AM
Ramjade
post May 20 2017, 11:36 AM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
24,431 posts

Joined: Feb 2011



QUOTE(puchongite @ May 20 2017, 11:33 AM)
But I came to know that those "established" funds in Malaysia such Eastspring small cap and KGF were once like that too, particularly when the fund size is growing. Ponzi 1 was like that before the fund is soft closed.
*
KGF is still acceptable in my books. 14%+ return in less than a year is good return. Anything >10% is good stuff for me.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: May 20 2017, 11:37 AM
Ramjade
post May 20 2017, 01:16 PM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
24,431 posts

Joined: Feb 2011



QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 20 2017, 12:09 PM)
JJPTR leh biggrin.gif
*
Itu apa macam. shakehead.gif better go bitcoin lending. Min profit a year 30+%. Risk: Value of bitcoin can swing +-200% thumbup.gif

QUOTE(plumberly @ May 20 2017, 12:42 PM)
Thanks. So I did not read it wrongly. It is still a worry when one has a big sum in there even with BNM and trustee things.
*
FSM is one of the investment company I trust. Reason:
1) it originate from SG. SG is one of asia financial center. If they can get approval from SG MAS, I have nothing to worry about. It's not JJPTR/CYL etc.
2) even HK central bank also grant it license to operate. HK ia another financial center.
3) many auntie and uncles have platinum status with them (min RM750k)
4) ever heard of nominee account in stock trading? Same concept.
5) I have initiate a withdrawal so many times and the money always come back to my account.

I like what they are doing to make investing cheaper for normal people. If without them, many here would pay hefty service charge of 5.5%/transaction or stuck with medicore public mutual. With FSM, we are paying 1.75% or less (depending on promo and status level you have with them) and we have acess to some bloody good funds.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: May 20 2017, 01:17 PM
Ramjade
post May 20 2017, 03:04 PM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
24,431 posts

Joined: Feb 2011



QUOTE(plumberly @ May 20 2017, 03:01 PM)
Thanks.

FSM should give you a promotional award for this! Ha.
*
Nah they will hate me as I am anti their platform fees (for bond fund).
Ramjade
post May 20 2017, 09:15 PM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
24,431 posts

Joined: Feb 2011



QUOTE(xuzen @ May 20 2017, 07:13 PM)
Interpac Dana Safi and Interpac Dynamic prior to hiring the new FM, is hardly heard off. It is as though nobody knew it existed. Then suddenly, the RHB FM left , went there and voila! Interpac UTF became super duper hot.
I suggest you take a look at the past performance of RHB Smart Series to get an idea of how Interpac UTF will perform since the FM is formerly from RHB Smart Series. As off now, FSM website is down, so I cannot check the past performance of RHB Smart Series. However, RHB Smart Series is never in Algozen™ radar, hence my guess, it a nothing to shout UTF, if strictly based on past performance.

Xuzen
*
Before this at rhb buy u-li. Now lari to interpac also buy u-li.
Ramjade
post May 20 2017, 10:42 PM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
24,431 posts

Joined: Feb 2011



QUOTE(puchongite @ May 20 2017, 10:15 PM)
What's wrong with buying u-li ?
*
I haven't look at fundamentals of u-li but selling down of u-li was the cause of malaysia smallcaps sell downtown last time. If I am not mistaken, most RHB funds kena wipe out by 15-25% because of this u-li fiasco.
Ramjade
post May 21 2017, 08:22 AM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
24,431 posts

Joined: Feb 2011



QUOTE(puchongite @ May 21 2017, 03:41 AM)
It is said in the star article that a selldown was initiated by a local bank-backed asset management house which is a common shareholder of Uli Corp, SLP, Oriental Food and SCGM. The selldown saw the stocks lose some RM242mil in market capitalis

But RHB denied that. “Our asset management is not involved in any selldown of those shares that were reported."

Hoe Cheah How, formerly the Chief Investment Officer (CIO) of RHB Asset Management, has joined Shock Media Studio, the leading Digital Agency in Asia as the Chief Financial Officer (CFO).

Mr Lim Tze Cheng prior to joining Inter-Pacific Asset Management Sdn Bhd in December 2016, was the Head of Equity at RHB Asset Management Sdn Bhd prior to joining InterPac.

So who is the real person behind the selldown ?
*
I am pointing my fingers at RHB. Of course they will say it's not them. If they say it's caused by them, further selldown will happen as Investors who have no Internet but read papers will be worried.

We all know what happen. Fund manager move to another fund house. Regular people who have inside info sold off becauae scared new manager is incompetent. Once someone tarik few million, retail investors in the stock market follow.

Imagine if news got out that lee sook yee leave kenanga. I believed the same thing will happen. Stocks held by kenanga will tumble.

I am not sure if he's a good fund manager as current times is bull market. Even lousy stock also making money.

Already posted before about fund manager. When mark mobius left Templeton (he's considered emerging market fund manager king as he's one of the fund manager who beats the index regularly), million of dollars flow out of the Templeton fund he managed.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: May 21 2017, 08:27 AM
Ramjade
post May 21 2017, 07:55 PM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
24,431 posts

Joined: Feb 2011



QUOTE(plumberly @ May 21 2017, 07:10 PM)
Thanks.

Has anyone cpntacted FSM on this issue. Please share if there is already a reply from FSM on this.

Really want to know the legal aspects in black and white before I try it.

Thanks.
*
QUOTE
Q: WHEN I BUY FUNDS FROM FUNDSUPERMART, IN WHOSE NAME WILL THE UNITS BE REGISTERED IN?

A: For cash investments, all units will be registered under iFAST Nominees Sdn. Bhd. For EPF Account 1 investment, they will be registered in your names. These units are segregated from the company’s assets.
You can contact our hotline (03)2149 0567 for any problems regarding your investments and iFAST Capital Sdn. Bhd. will liaise on your behalf with the fund managers.


Q: WHAT IF FUNDSUPERMART CEASES AS A BUSINESS CONCERN?


A: Fundsupermart is a division of iFAST Capital Sdn Bhd. iFAST Capital Sdn Bhd has a Capital Markets Services Licence (CMSL) from the Securities Commission to deal in unit trusts, offer investment advisory services and deal in Private Retirement Scheme. It is also registered with the Federation of Investment Managers Malaysia (FIMM) as an Institutional Unit Trust Advisers (IUTA). iFAST Capital Sdn Bhd is a subsidiary of iFAST Malaysia Sdn. Bhd. (formerly known as iFAST-OSK Sdn. Bhd.), which is wholly owned by iFAST Corporation Ltd. Find out more About Us.
In the unlikely event that Fundsupermart ceases as a business concern, with your permission, all your assets registered under iFAST Nominees Sdn Bhd will be transferred to another Institutional Unit Trust Advisers (IUTA) or they will be returned to you.

Ramjade
post May 21 2017, 10:46 PM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
24,431 posts

Joined: Feb 2011



QUOTE(suadrif @ May 21 2017, 10:36 PM)
Guys, just want to do a quick check.

One of the advantage having Fundsupermart platform compared to any agent is LOWER SALES CHARGE.
FSM platform sales charge is ranging from 0-2% per transaction whereas agent charges up to 7%.

But recently there's agent saying that FSM is charging us WRAP FEE which is 1.5% from our ANNUAL TOTAL AMOUNT. Is this statement true? I dont have any clue on this.
*
Hahahaha... WRAP account is only for special people. WRAP account let you switch any fund you want without kena additional charges. Usually reserved for financial planners. Only xuzen is using that account. It's out of reached for normal people like us.

Of course he bluff you la. So that you will buy from him. Who wants to kena charge 1.5% yearly platform fees. whistling.gif

Keep in mind whether you buy from agents or FSM, you kena charge ~1.5% management fees. This management fees is already calculated in the NAV of the fund. Whether the fund perform or not, management fees need to be paid.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: May 21 2017, 10:47 PM
Ramjade
post May 21 2017, 11:14 PM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
24,431 posts

Joined: Feb 2011



QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 21 2017, 11:10 PM)
I sometimes wish fsm would have installed their own irr calculation instead of us having to go through the wonky excel sheets.
*
I think platinum user got those feature.
Ramjade
post May 22 2017, 12:36 PM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
24,431 posts

Joined: Feb 2011



QUOTE(puchongite @ May 22 2017, 12:34 PM)
It's incorrect to say it's due to one counter ( u-li ). It was actually a bunch of counters, but common among the RHB funds ( and also other funds ).

For me I think it was a natural correction due to the oversell nature of the small/mid cap counters at that moment, the market was just looking for an excuse to perform a correction. Personal movement happen to trigger it.
*
It was a bunch. But it started with U-li if I am not wrong. Then domino effect as people sell other fund held by the fund.
Ramjade
post May 22 2017, 10:14 PM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
24,431 posts

Joined: Feb 2011



QUOTE(xuzen @ May 22 2017, 10:04 PM)
Strange isn't it, there are folks who participate in some unit trust fund managed by a GLC company that do not subscribe to the FRS (Financial Reporting Standard) by the hundred of thousand ringgit and yet they do not question about their FAQ legality....

These folks should be given an A plus plus for loyalty to king and country ! Fide ut Regina et Patriam !

Xuzen
*
Power of name what. Semua kenal govt. Siapa kenal iFast? Siapa itu? Apa itu? Product apple ke? Try asking regular folks that question.

Maybe if maybank is the one who come out with the name Maybank Fundmart. Semua kenal maybank.

Same la. Ask anyone on the street public mutual, semua kenal but tak ada orang tahu fund performance like shit.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: May 22 2017, 10:14 PM

70 Pages « < 27 28 29 30 31 > » Top
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0442sec    1.04    7 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 23rd December 2025 - 12:15 PM