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post Mar 24 2020, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Mar 24 2020, 11:21 AM)
H shares - Principal Greater China Fund
A shares - AmChina A-Shares
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post Mar 25 2020, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Mar 25 2020, 10:33 AM)
H shares is everyone can buy
A shares are their shares focus on local investors

But recently they start opening up A shares to outsider but with T&C applies. We don't need to worry the t&c. We just buy the fund as usual.

Afaik, in FSM there is 2 funds for miners and 1 fund focus on gold
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post Apr 4 2020, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Apr 3 2020, 06:33 PM)
Hi bro, I have 3 different portfolios. Yesterday I DCA into:

1.  Kenanga Growth Fund
2.  CIMB Global Titans
3.  Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income
4.  CIMB Greater China
5.  TA European Equity
6.  Eastspring Global Emerging Markets
7.  Affin Hwang Select (ex-Japan) Quantum
8.  TA Global Technology Fund
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Apr 2 2020, 12:28 PM)
Unit Trusts Approved Under The EPF-MIS For 2020/21

List of Unit Trusts - Newly Approved and Suspended from the EPF-MIS
The Employees Provident Fund (EPF) just announced the list of unit trusts approved under the Employees Provident Fund Members Investment Scheme (EPF-MIS) for 2020/2021. Table 1 has the list of newly approved unit trusts as well as unit trusts that have been suspended from the existing EPF-MIS, which will take into effect from 1 April 2020 till 31 March 2021. To explore EPF-approved unit trusts that we carry on our platform, please click here.

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/fsmone/art...MIS-For-2020-21
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post Apr 4 2020, 06:22 PM

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I'm curious. Some of you are buying funds in FSM Malaysia and the charges are not cheap. Eg: annual management fee 1.5-1.8%. Some of these funds are likely to be feeder funds, thus wouldn't it make more sense to buy the 'original fund' instead of these feeder funds (assuming $ is not a constrain as original fund minimum initial investment is higher and assuming that the fund is available for us to invest in).

I'll give an example.

TA Global Technology Fund
--A minimum of 95% is invested in Janus Henderson Horizon Global Technology.
--Annual expense ratio of 1.87%

Janus Henderson Horizon Global Technology (can be invested in FSM Singapore).
--Annual expense ratio of 1.88%


If we were to invest in TA Global Technology Fund, wouldn't it be we are paying for both TA Global Fund's management fee + Janus Henderson Horizon Global Technology's management fund? Thus, it would be harder to make $ if invest in TA fund vs if invest in Janus Henderson's fund.


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post Apr 4 2020, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 4 2020, 06:25 PM)
if I am not mistaken,....there had been posting some years back, that there are NO double management fees charges for feeder funds
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Are you very sure? Anyone can confirm? Because these are 2 very different management companies--TA Global Technology Fund is under TA Investment Management and not under Janus Henderson Investors. If both funds under Janus Henderson Investors, I can understand.

Of course I prefer you to be right as minimum initial investment for TA Global Fund is lower.
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post Apr 4 2020, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Apr 4 2020, 06:43 PM)
*Annual Management Fee:
Class A2 (Accumulation) Shares – 1.20% per annum of the total net assets.

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There will be no double charging of annual management fees. The annual management fee imposed on the Target Fund level will be taken from the annual management fee of 1.80% per annum of the NAV of the Fund charged by TAIM.

Taken from page 59: https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/fsmone/adm...ctusMYTAGTF.pdf
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Thanks. Can't really understand everything on page 59, but suffice to say no double charging, so its good. rclxm9.gif . Now, can invest in feeder funds.
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post Apr 5 2020, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 5 2020, 06:21 PM)
"As Asians, our parents always tell us ‘Don’t borrow money, repay your mortgage as soon as possible’,” said Heng, whose initial S$170,000 share portfolio now totals about S$135,000. "But money is so cheap.”

Earlier this year, 31-year-old insurance agent Heng Kai Sheng got advances on three separate credit cards to the tune of S$150,000.
With the money, he opened a share-financing account at a local bank and pledged the lot as collateral.

He was granted leverage of around 3.5 times, a S$500,000 kitty Heng’s plowing into the stock market.

Individuals pumped around S$2 billion into equities in March, 50% more than the previous month, Singapore Exchange Ltd. data show.
The increase comes as the nation’s benchmark equity gauge registered its worst quarter since the global financial crisis.

The SPDR Straits Times Index ETF, the largest Singapore-listed exchange-traded fund tracking the city-state’s stocks, saw net inflows of about S$247 million in the three months ended March 31, its largest quarterly boost since 2002, Bloomberg-compiled data show.

There are also some suggestions retail investors may be using their homes as collateral to borrow money.
David Gerald, founder of investor lobby group Securities Investors Association (Singapore), said he was aware that investors "may want to refinance their housing loans” in the low-rate environment to free up cash for equity investments.

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...ad-up-on-stocks
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If net inflow in the last 3 months till 31/3/2020, why then is the STI ETF dropping?
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post Apr 6 2020, 01:54 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 6 2020, 12:08 AM)
this STI ETF is tracking the city-state’s stocks's net inflows or city-state’s stocks's performance?
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Its tracking the stock's performance. I guess for STI ETF, if the component stocks going down, STI price will still drop even though there's net inflow for the STI itself, huh.


Anyway, more importantly--how safe is FSM (Malaysia and Singapore)? I was reading about Stashaway and the risk if Stashaway close down (read that Smartly SG investors were forced to sell their investments --thus, if portfolio was red at that time, they would make losses).

Have a fair bit of $ in FSM Singapore and some in FSM Malaysia. Can't afford to have to force sell my stocks (if they are in the red) if FSM were to close down.
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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 6 2020, 07:55 AM)
for your this scenario, I think you should be more worried of "force sell" by that particular Fund house of your UT fund(s), than by FSM

if forced to sell by FSM due to some issue, the price of your UT in FSM is determined by the price of the UT in the open market.....(exclude redemption fees in this story),
you can just sell and get back your money and go next door to buy again at the same price as you sell (excludes sudden big variance UP/DOWN swing of NAV price in this story).
the most you stand to loss in your scenario is the Sales Charges....

btw, just a note, historically usually few times a year the next door competitor of FSM are having 0% Sales charges.
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Thanks. Forgot about POEMS (next door competitor).


QUOTE(backspace66 @ Apr 6 2020, 07:55 AM)
I dont think we can simply compare fsm with stashaway which is quite new in the market. Financial perfomance for the parent company of fsm is also ok for the past few years.

http://www.ifastcorp.com/ifastcorp/investo...performance.tpl
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Thanks. Hopefully FSM will last a long time and give good service.
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post Apr 9 2020, 05:05 PM

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Bought today a bit of TA Global Technology Fund and Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund. Should have bought TA Global Tech Fund much earlier. Sigh
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QUOTE(T231H @ Apr 9 2020, 10:25 PM)
I googled and found this....

hope it can provide some explanation....
https://www.franklintempleton.lu/investor/r...e-class-hedging

if I remembered correctly, was told once some years ago, by the FM during a fair....
hedged class has lesser risk than the non hedged class...something like the FM monitor the forex movement and play with it too to smoothen the fluctuation.....
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Thanks. That article is good. I like the below especially.

"Investors investing in a fund with its base currency different from their own local currency are subject to the risk of currency fluctuations between their local currency and the fund's base currency. Without currency hedging, European investors e.g. would record a profit or loss due to the fluctuating EUR-USD exchange rate. If the fund generates a positive performance in its base currency, the currency translation into the local currency of the investor may nevertheless lead to a negative result, if the base currency has lost against the local currency during the investment period."


WHAT IS NAV SHARE CLASS HEDGING?
The intention is to reduce the impact of movements in the exchange rate between the currency used by an investor to buy shares in a fund and the base currency of that fund.
It is an attempt to make the NAV performance consistent for shareholders of two different currency classes e.g. to provide a EUR investor with approximately the same returns as a USD investor.
Note: The returns will not be the same due to the cost of the hedge (primarily interest rate differential) and short term over and under hedging due to subscriptions and redemptions activity.


QUOTE(T231H @ Apr 9 2020, 09:55 PM)
Hedging Currency Risk

To hedge or not to hedge? That’s probably the question on the minds of most investors, as they look outwards for their investments and seek to add to their allocation overseas.
However, this also runs the risk of increasing their exposure to foreign currencies, leaving them potentially vulnerable to movements in exchange rates. Sometimes, the currency swings are so large that it could impact your portfolio’s overall returns.
Does that mean you should fully hedge your position? The answer probably lies somewhere in the middle, depending on the investor’s own objectives and risk-tolerance.

more in ...
https://affinhwangam.com/hedging-currency-risk/
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AUD don't do well whenever China's economy's not well

QUOTE(oldies1950 @ Apr 9 2020, 10:49 PM)
Check the UT below.
Ie : -1)  AFFIN HWANG WORLD SERIES - GLOBAL HEALTHSCIENCE FUND - MYR 

VS 

        2) AFFIN HWANG WORLD SERIES - GLOBAL HEALTHSCIENCE FUND - MYR HEDGED

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     If one is EXPECTING ringgit to Weaken over 6 mths period ..... Which of the Above to Collect ???
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If one expects MYR to weaken, go for MYR unhedged.

Base currency for Affin Hwang global healthscience is USD. Thus, if MYR weakened and we do not hedge, each USD will get more MYR.

See the below. You can see, MYR hedged performed much worse than USD portfolio when MYR weakened

https://my.morningstar.com/ap/fundselect/results.aspx

https://my.morningstar.com/ap/quicktake/ove...ceId=0P0001H2NC

https://my.morningstar.com/ap/quicktake/ove...ceId=0P0001H2NE

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QUOTE(Fledgeling @ Apr 10 2020, 10:01 AM)
Very very helpful - thanks sooo much. I understand now - woo hoo!
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Welcome

QUOTE(oldies1950 @ Apr 10 2020, 02:53 PM)
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Thanks for Confirmation.
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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Apr 11 2020, 11:49 AM)
Yes, just started to invest through FSM(via epf mis) around a month ago. Another portion goes to public mutual ,PGSF again via epf mis.

Another thing is i have been on standby since they implement the epf i-invest, around august last year. Would not consider buying without this low sales charge and i-invest portal.
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What's the low sales charge like and is it forever or up till when?
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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Apr 11 2020, 12:21 PM)
It is 0% since august last year for most fund provided by FSM and 0.5% for most public mutual funds. From my understanding it is not a short term offer .even if fsm decides to increase the sales charge in the future, they are only allowed to increase it to a maximum of 0.5% (capped by epf)
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Thanks. Never used EPF to invest before. Guess have to do some reading up
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Thanks. Good info. on the below

QUOTE(potenza10 @ Apr 12 2020, 11:09 AM)
U should try. It is hassle free and easy to use. With 0% sales charge, it is awesome.
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 12 2020, 11:42 AM)
The system does have bug though and has room to improve. Some that I notice is:

1. Epf system always want a minimum of 1000 investment. Even if u already invested, it supposed to consider as top up which is lower amount. Even if the initial investment show 500, the value still must be 1k. I think they hard coded the value.

2. Top up button from FSM side shown with sales charge. With a note asking u to go epf website to enjoy 0%.

3. Checking epf fund list on epf website by opening a new tab will automatically log u out. So u end up always have to redo the search of list of funds.

4. Checking balance left eligible to be invested on epf website can only be done during "working hours" or else the website will pop up saying u cannot do investment at this time n kick u back into the summary page. I feel it's stupid programming it this way.

5. Search list on funds on epf website doesn't clearly state the fund type as bond or equity etc. So u have to click one by one to check. Which cause issue #3. Alternative is u can search on FSM website instead but u will miss out funds offrred from other fund house.
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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Apr 12 2020, 12:12 PM)
1. Not all. Few of my fund can top up according to the min amount through EPF.

2. Yes...using EPF website only will enjoy 0% sales charge.

3. Did not get it. I have no issue. Only after I diverted to the FSM tab and successfully invested and go back to I-akaun, the only automatically log out. Need to log in again.

4. Weekend still can view. No issue.

5. Can go to Fund Tools > Fund Selector. No issue.
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A bit OT but need help.

If I were to sell my stocks in FSM Singapore, when will the $ come into my cash account in FSM Singapore. It has been a few days already and still have not seen any $ coming in
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post Apr 17 2020, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 17 2020, 12:16 PM)
while waiting for responses, or if you cannot afford/tahan to wait for responses, you can try this.....
https://secure.fundsupermart.com/fsm/advice...ices/contact-us
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I already emailed them but no reply yet. Sometimes they take several days before they reply. For live chat, they won't answer and asked you to email them.
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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Apr 17 2020, 12:52 PM)
when you sell the stock ? which day and date u sell  confused.gif
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tadashi987 Sold on 14 April Tuesday

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Apr 17 2020, 01:08 PM)
https://secure.fundsupermart.com/fsm/advice...vices/faq/7197/
check number 6
I think you can check tomorrow as sometimes it takes sometimes for system to reflect

or u cn check now under cash solution -> Earmark/ Processing Withdrawal(s) column

is your amount display in it showing processing
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Thanks. I only saw the 14th April sales (but not later sales) under cash solution-- earmark/processing withdrawal column. Hopefully the $ will come in tomorrow.

I need to withdraw $ from asnb. (Hope that branches are opened now). Else, I can hardly buy anything

QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 17 2020, 01:58 PM)
I think there is no 100% Oil focused UT funds in FSM MY.
maybe some funds has some % of allocation focused into Oil industries....

so because of its just some %....thus it will not effective if want to take full opportunities bcos of current bearish situation...
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I don't think there is either. Or else, I would have been in.

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