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post Nov 1 2020, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Nov 1 2020, 12:43 AM)
The 1.5% sales charge will commence starting 1/11/2020?  hmm.gif
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Don't see any changes to the sales charge except that if you want to top up your existing funds, it has become as if you are investing for the first time. For eg: Principal greater china fund, minimum top up is $200 as per what is stated but they don't let you do that , instead you have to top up $500 (as if you are buying it for the first time).

The website has problems.
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post Nov 21 2020, 01:00 AM

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Need help. I bought a fund a few days ago. Usually before this new website design, it will automatically deduct from my FSM cash account (it will say as cheque payment--don't know why FSM use such term).

However, noticed that till date, it is still pending for payment and choice of payment is only fpx online or upload deposit slip. I tried paying with the fpx online just now but decided to cancel it halfway as was wondering if there would be double payment as don't understand why they are not deducting from my cash account as per previously before this stupid new website. Now, its not letting me pay using fpx online anymore (as I cancelled the earlier one) and I'm supposed to mail proof of payment to them and then do a stupid upload or mail them proof of payment when pay. Guess they are expecting me to go to my bank account and do payment from there bangwall.gif Really mad as I got a good price for the fund a few days ago. Most likely will just cancel the order. Really dislike this stupid new website design.

1) So question is how do we get FSM to use our cash account for payment next time I want to buy?

2) Also, will I still get the price based on date of order if I make payment today as it has been a few working days already or will it be base on the working day that I made payment which will then be on Monday?



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post Nov 21 2020, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Nov 21 2020, 09:23 AM)
you can
1. select cash account before buy
2. T+3 (depend on fund). On last day of 3 day, based on my observation
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ericlaiys Thanks. T+3 [is the 3 working days or 3 days (inclusive of Saturday and Sunday)? I bought it on 18/11 before 3pm]

From FSM :
"FPX payment method is not available for this Purchase Order (PO) as the previous attempt to make payment was not completed or unsuccessful. You will not able to make a payment for the same PO using FPX.

You may continue with this PO by mailing cheque and upload your bank-in slip OR if you would like to make payment via FPX, kindly place a new order."

LOL, who mails cheque nowadays for this type of thing. bangwall.gif Sigh, have to cancel order then



QUOTE(T231H @ Nov 21 2020, 07:52 AM)
try this (per image) for your question 1

as per your question 2...as per their FAQs:
"Your buy orders will only be transacted when payment is received.....before the cut off time and any buy order received after cut off time will process on the next business day".

"If we receive your payment before the cutoff time on a business day, your units will be priced as of the closing price of the market on that day itself. For payments received after the cutoff time or on a non-business day, your units will be priced based on the next business day.

Given that the fund management companies require time to consolidate, calculate and verify unit prices with independent trustees, you will only know the exact unit price two working days later. You will receive an email from us once your units have been priced."
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Thanks. This FSM really vmad.gif Change the 'method'. I'm sure I'm not the only one that encountered this problem. Previously automatically will just deduct from cash account (and show as cheque/FPX once everything processed). Now it seems automatic deduction is through FPX. The option to pay by cash is not even highlighted and will only be shown if we click on cheque/FPX first, then only can see the cash method and then select cash from there. Really stupid. If I were the boss, I would have fired the person/tech guy that design/approve it. Ok, end of rant and sorry for the rant.


QUOTE(ky33li @ Nov 21 2020, 08:16 AM)
RHB Artificial Intelligence Fund performs better than TA technology fund simply because the tech funds selected are much better than TA. both are feeder funds one managed by Allianz while the other Janus. As i know Allianz is one of top fund managers in the world but not Janus.
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Have always avoided AI /disruptive funds. Guess, I should have looked into it more.

QUOTE(ky33li @ Nov 21 2020, 08:58 AM)
Let's see which fund performs better incoming year but i am very sure Allianz Intelligence Fund returns will surpass Janus Technology Fund. You can check asset under both fund managers Allianz EURO2268billion vs Janus of USD374billion. Just YTD alone Allianz Artificial Intelligence Fund return is 60% vs Janus of only 30%. You have to look at underlying securities. you must invest in tech funds that are growing in demand especially into cloud services which are disruptive in nature (such as tesla talking about autonomous driving, producing cheaper batteries) and not those into boring old apple, alibaba shares...
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Currently, funds are doing rotational play from tech into value investing and also certain emerging market where stocks have not risen.

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post Nov 21 2020, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Nov 21 2020, 02:00 PM)
u can reply an email to complain to their CS haha, every new website sure comes with some user experience drawdown and hiccup  whistling.gif
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They won't layan one. Just waste my time only
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post Mar 11 2021, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(xcxa23 @ Mar 10 2021, 11:59 AM)
thanks
i usually use this to track
https://cathiesark.com/ark-funds-combined/trades

not sure how accurate tho
or maybe not update yet

it pretty crazy if tsla up due to ark purchases
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Thanks

QUOTE(xcxa23 @ Mar 10 2021, 01:25 PM)
During those sell off days, she have been on interview almost everyday, before and during the market open but despite how bullish she is, Tesla keeps dipping. So I doubt she or anyone got any significant effect during market wide correction

I have read that lots of fund managers "look down" on her strategy and bet against her. Not sure how true, had to wait new to report who profited big during the sell off.

There's alot telsa competitior like nio, xpeng, cciv. And high chance many investor/fund houses want the early pie, probably Tesla bull won't as big as it was.
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I think she will be proven right ultimately. Unfortunately I entered her various ARK funds just before the crash. So really stuck at penthouse level. Over -invested in her funds, so can't average down at this stage. Have to wait for further drop before I can even begin to buy in. Sigh!

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post Mar 12 2021, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(xcxa23 @ Mar 12 2021, 08:44 AM)
My return was 50%+ and down until 13%+
Nasdaq broke the resistance and stay above the resistance.

Personally,
I believe sooner or later it might retest the resistance line. Once it successful bounce back, I will top up.
It's ok, since you did not sell off during the dip at loss. As long as you still believe in the fundamental of equities you holding top up during the dip.
Some ppl keep buying the dip but personally I will just wait for the re bounce. No method is wrong as long as you are earning money
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post Mar 17 2021, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(real55555 @ Mar 17 2021, 11:11 AM)
Income distribution for Principal Greater China declared in early March, anyone received it yet?
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Not yet

QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Mar 17 2021, 11:14 AM)
yes, check your historical transaction records
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WhitE LighteR When did you receive it? I still haven't received it. Its not in my historical transaction records at all

QUOTE(lee82gx @ Mar 17 2021, 05:03 PM)
I also have not received mine.Β  sad.gifΒ  confused.gif
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lee82gx Have not received mine either. Let's keep each other inform when we receive it

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post Mar 18 2021, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Mar 18 2021, 12:05 PM)
Received today. China still tanking. Damn.....This really does amplify the message that if there is anything to brag it'll usually be from your heroic actions 2 years ago not 2 months or 2 weeks ago.
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Received mine also
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post Mar 23 2021, 02:32 PM

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Just bought stock from FSM. Hopefully still can get the $100 bonus. If anyone received the bonus, do post it here and mention also when you bought the stock/etf
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QUOTE(CSW1990 @ Mar 30 2021, 09:51 PM)
just received the email too.
so far the RM100 can cover the loss profit of my stock purchase  biggrin.gif
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Received email too. Yeah, I also only bought small amount as wasn't sure whether I qualified for the $100 biggrin.gif
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post Nov 8 2023, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(zebras @ Nov 1 2023, 09:53 AM)
https://www.fsmone.com.my/funds/research/ar...m1-pr?src=funds

is this now the cheapest way to invest in US ETF for long term?

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 1 2023, 10:13 AM)
The cheapest way is still ikbr through Irish domiciled etf. Non Americans who don't have tax treaty with America get 30% tax on div. Irish domiciled get 15%
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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Nov 7 2023, 02:33 PM)
You need to calculate properly because it is still 0.08% πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ rm1 is just a bait only
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QUOTE(zebras @ Nov 7 2023, 04:56 PM)
assuming invest RM1000

fsmone
0.08% or RM1
= RM1

IBKR Pro - Fixed
min USD 1.00
= 1 USD ~= RM4.6

IBKR Pro - Tiered
min USD 0.35 USD
= 0.35 USD ~= RM1.6

rakuten
Between 700.00-9,999.99  RM9.00
= RM9

mplusglobal
min fee 3 USD
= 3 USD ~= RM14
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IMHO, this is really a good strategy by FSM Malaysia. It allows small investors to get in and/or people who want to invest very frequently and regularly. RM1 is way better than USD1.
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post Nov 8 2023, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 8 2023, 05:44 PM)
You need to check how is the dividend tax on the US etfs sold on the platform. Through ramjade and the other guys they pointed out that us etfs are taxed 30%
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Yes. I know that US ETFs dividends are taxed at 30% vs Irish domiciled 15%. Spread between Irish domiciled ETFs are wider vs US ETFs though, less liquidity, lousier pricing and some may have larger minimum amount /disallow fractional shares.

So ultimately it depends on the person's budget, frequency of trades, the amount size and so on. For me, I haven't tried a regular plan yet but may be tempted to do it here/partially here.

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post Nov 9 2023, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 8 2023, 07:41 PM)
I was like you until I got burned by fsm managed portfolio, started to get turned off by fsm and decided to pull all my funds into cspx.

BTW vuaa is the etf that suits what you need. It is Irish domiciled with div reinvestment plus it allows fractional shares.
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How did you get burned by FSM (don't need to answer if you don't want to)? Yes, am aware of Vuaa. Guess you prefer Cspx due to the narrower spread.

QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Nov 8 2023, 09:34 PM)
is the FX spread competitive enuf?
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Dammm...forgot about fx spread. Yeah, most likely not worth it if thinking of the conversion. Thanks for the reminder. Guess FSM regular plan is out then

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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Nov 9 2023, 12:04 AM)
Brokerage is cheap but you have factor in FX spread πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ
Yes it is cheap but the FX spread is high πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ that is where is they earn money
Yes US ETF are taxed 30% unless your brokerage is willing to claw back WHT is eligible hence why it is recommended Irish domiciled ETF for tax efficiency
You got burned by their aggressive portfolio is it? πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ

Their portfolio management is inconsistent hence why
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Yes. Didn't think about forex spread.
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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Nov 9 2023, 12:34 AM)
Well let’s verify with fact
I just tried with FSM cash account
5000MYR I can get 1059.70USD
Wise (if use IBKR you gonna use Wise to convert SGD anyway), I get around 1060.69USD
FSM spread is not that bad and almost on par with WISE per se
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Wonder, can we convert 1 huge sum from RM to USD, then slowly/regularly FSM takes from there (the USD converted already) each time its time to invest. If so, can convert 1 shot when the exchange rate is good. Not sure how it works for FSM

QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 9 2023, 08:55 AM)
Entered in January 2020 with a lump sum and continued to DCA. I would understand it's going bad from the covid pandemic but nearing three years still in the red plus our currency dropping? No Bueno.
Correction. At the time of writing

Wise 5k myr = 1065.87 usd
FSM 5k myr = 10597.00 usd

I wouldn't say it's on par.

Plus fsm Investment Amount

USD 390.88
Processing Fee USD 3.80
Malaysia Stamp Duty USD 0.43
Total Investment Amount
USD 395.11

We charge Malaysia stamp duty when ikbr doesnt lol
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I think have to see what funds you invested. If there's China funds or reit funds, then can understand the red figures.

Err...getting confused. You are converting to USD1k+. How come suddenly got USD390.88? Also why got processing fee USD3.8? I thought processing fee just RM1?
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 9 2023, 12:50 PM)
That's for usd etf kot? All I know ikbr is the cheapest amongst the rest of the brokers
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USD etf kot?? Don't understand but its ok. Yes, IBKR is the cheapest currently.
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QUOTE(jutamind @ Nov 9 2023, 08:30 PM)
None of MY based brokers will be anywhere cheap compared to IBKR but what you get is piece of mind of easier access to your money if anything were to happen to you especially if you plan to have large amount of money in IBKR.

If I recall correctly, few years back the gov was planning to tax the money transferred back to MY but was eventually shelved due to the many objections. Who knows the rule might be revived again in the near future
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Its not shelved, its just been delayed to year 2026 (either beginning or end year--can't remember).
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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Nov 10 2023, 02:33 PM)
Don’t factored in cash conversion only πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ factored including the final cost of trading instead as it will be higher πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ
Red figures for managed portfolio not due to China or REIT πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ the whole entire portfolio selection is horrible because horrible funds that they pick which underperforms badly particularly China and US funds πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ the only one which is still green is their bonds and healthcare funds which constitute about less than 20% of entire aggressive portfolio

Processing fee is not fixed πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ it is starting at rm1 and it goes up based on trade amount
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