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post Nov 2 2017, 08:53 PM

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wow..... rclxm9.gif
in just 1 day...my port +0.82% ....
hope you guys are doing great too.....

hmm.gif Prelude to a great fall?? sweat.gif devil.gif
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post Nov 2 2017, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(funnyface @ Nov 2 2017, 09:11 PM)
that was yesterday result, today should drop abit  hmm.gif
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this month will have a few funds having distribution which will "screw" my tracking for awhile...

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post Nov 3 2017, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Nov 3 2017, 11:47 AM)
Word of caution to those who seems to get a hard - on each time the word IRR is being used....

IRR is a useless measure when your data is short and only have less than one year. In this instance, it gives you only a pure " shiok " sendiri feelin' , nothing more.

You want IRR, it becomes more meaningful when you have 2 years or more... I prefer three years or more.

Xuzen

p/s a little bit more on IRR. IRR is a statistical measurement that is classified as inferential statistic. For inferential stats to be meaningful, you need a large data, n. If you only have a handful of data and you use them, you risk it being a biased measurement. For example, since beginning of this year until now, the market has been on an uptrend, and if you only start to use data that is recently, you will sure get a " shiok " sendiri IRR value. Be warned.
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post Nov 3 2017, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(walkman660 @ Nov 3 2017, 12:44 PM)
Mind to share on your current portfolio?
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started Jan 2017 with approximately as attached

now latest action
reduced
Ponzi 1.0 to 12%.......reducing again in Jan...moving it out to Ponzi 2.0 if the BAD trends still persist by June 2018
EMBF to 10%

increased AHSBF to 10%
EIGL 10%

removed
india
Amreits 9%
EISC

got
Manulife reits 15%....>>5% moveable to India and back to reits
Nikko 6%

now in process of changing to the 2018 port

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post Nov 3 2017, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(f5calvin @ Nov 3 2017, 01:11 PM)
But they are no longer the same portfolio right? Cz i remember seeing one where they started few years back. The one u showed is a new portfolio started this may.
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yes....
i guess they wanted to practice (doing it to the Managed port) what they recommended or vice versa....
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post Nov 9 2017, 09:25 AM

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If and when that happens.....i wish FSM would separate the portfolio risk classes into EPF and non EPF types. For i does not want my portfolio to be confined into buying EPF approved UT funds only
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post Nov 9 2017, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(newdnewd @ Nov 9 2017, 01:55 PM)
Anyone still keeping RHB EMB? Seems declining now.
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I am keeping it too for port diversification purposes

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post Nov 15 2017, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Nov 14 2017, 08:24 PM)
eh why lately so bad one...

macam lost a lot... 4% down to 1.7% wtf is happening
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must have held heavy on some of the funds as listed? tongue.gif
even recommended funds are not spared brows.gif devil.gif
I just got 10% on 1 of the fund on that list and my port lost 0.8 in 1 week (maybe due to other funds accumulations too)

QUOTE(ROSS_Solar @ Nov 15 2017, 07:43 AM)
Sea of red during last few days. Time to top up smile.gif
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what you gonna top up and at what extra % to be added into that fund?

QUOTE(Jitty @ Nov 15 2017, 08:11 AM)
Time to do top up.. Hehe
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what you gonna top up and at what % to be added into that fund?

no right or wrong...just that if you are gonna do this top up everytime there are some 2~3% lowered nav...just make that you have enough money in CMF,.....else these top up will be ineffective to make a dent in the portfolio ROI for these little price correction is very frequent (sometimes few times a year) and you must be quick to do it......sometimes just within a few days it will bounce back....and sometimes it won't for another few months......lagi worst is after topping up that fund continued to slide down some more % brows.gif




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post Nov 15 2017, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(Streetrat @ Nov 15 2017, 02:06 PM)
Why do most fund separate out japan?
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maybe because of this?
https://www.google.com.my/search?rls=com.mi...1.0.ny02pWPk0f8

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post Nov 16 2017, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 16 2017, 11:35 AM)
sometimes I wonder if you guys have forgotten the basic principles of unit trust investment. just keep to your allocation and leave the investing to fund managers. I periodically come in this thread and most of the time I fell like I'm visiting a chicken coop. loads of noise for a minor trigger. my two cents.

Anyways every market is being corrected at the end of the year, this is healthy for everyone involved and most stock traders are locking in their profits for the year end hence the correction.

Stop panicking and enjoy life instead of acting like crazed aunties in the pasar
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hmm.gif i don't think there is panic in their conversations....
i looks more like ranting.gif ranting and grumblings......

i think it is healthy to ranting.gif grumble abit for it make one realize how venerable one is emotionally to the market up and down.....thus hopefully one will reorganize one's portfolio accordingly in the near term

i think, the panic will come when no one grumble but just sell without telling anyone..... brows.gif
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QUOTE(jfleong @ Nov 16 2017, 12:02 PM)
Guys any idea where I can see yesterday's fund price by 2:45 pm today?
Wanna take that into account before buying
Bloomberg seems to be faster than FSM, but sometimes not fast enough
Their own websites perhaps?
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just a note....sometimes i noticed (based on index falls) for some funds especially foreign funds....
the price you see today after 5pm is based on 2 days ago
ex....India index fall 2% 1 Nov.........on 3 Nov the Nav will drops....

btw, why do you want to buy based on yesterday's price?
you can get today's market closing price and it will be reflected in today's NAV after 6pm..by buying some local funds


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post Nov 16 2017, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(missfarren @ Nov 16 2017, 11:57 AM)
where to monitor the price?
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click on FUNDS INFO/FUND PRICE?
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post Nov 16 2017, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(jfleong @ Nov 16 2017, 12:26 PM)
Alright thanks for that. Just wanna catch a trend maybe. If 3 to 4 consecutive days drop then I will buy in, worked for me so far
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just a note again...at times it will takes a month of drops to hit bottom (check end July til end Aug 2016 ..> 10% drop)
see the chart...there is this fund that dropped and dropped for months since Jan 2016..
......thus your 3~4 days of drop is not enough leh...
but i guess you can try it...for who knows how long and how severe the drops is gonna be...

btw,...if you want to look for trends....you may be interested to see this too....
FUNDS RANKED ACCORDING TO RETURNS (LOWEST)
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...orst_Funds.svdo

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post Nov 16 2017, 07:43 PM

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just got a mail....
8 Dec 2017 meeting for resolution...
to change Affinhwang Select Asia (ex Japan) Quantum fund objective to
"The fund seeks to achieve capital appreciation over the medium to long term by investing in Asia ex japan equities"
and
"To approve the FM to issue a new classes of units to be denominated in USD, SGD, AUD and GBP".

So the mandate will be wider and no more just small and mid cap opportunities within the region?.....
Will it be the same as Affinhwang Select Asia (ex Japan) Opportunity fund?

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post Nov 17 2017, 12:38 PM

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"the markets can be irrational longer than your holding power"
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post Nov 17 2017, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 17 2017, 03:12 PM)
lol same when you liquidate your stocks and get a hot EQ fund lah this time you paid someone else to do it for you.

for me I treat my entire investment as a portfolio

currently

70% is UT
30% is Stocks

haven't calculate my ultimate emergency reserve which is my property which stands at 700k the lowest to 800k the most st cost price of 500k

meaning if I lose some money in UT or stocks is just 0.5%? so why panic
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Ever wonder n do a rough simulation using data from asia fincncial crisis to see how much your net worth based on equities investing will be down by % ?
Also during that time.....house prices will also drop.
Wongmungkeong just mentioned something like diversification not just based on equities....
But i guess with yr qualification and income....you can do not need to touch those money and can still ride thru it

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post Nov 20 2017, 12:54 PM

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China shares slide on sweeping asset management rules

SHANGHAI: China stocks fell sharply on Monday and were heading for their biggest daily loss in three months after Beijing set sweeping new guidelines to regulate asset management products, which analysts said will dampen investors' appetite for riskier assets.

Read more at http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...0YL3IyULwxmF.99
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post Nov 20 2017, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(funnyface @ Nov 20 2017, 01:02 PM)
Ignore the noise....  whistling.gif
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bcos this is a govt policy change, it looks more like sound instead of noise to some that are heavier in china..... sad.gif

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QUOTE(funnyface @ Nov 20 2017, 01:20 PM)
Based on the article, the new policy will only be fully implemented around June 2019, which by that time we might already shift our most allocation to somewhere else...  whistling.gif

Dont worry, FSM has tons of expert who are actively observe those "noise". You will see their Manage Portfolio make the move if they think that it is indeed an impact, if at all.  cool2.gif
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hmm.gif guess you are right.....
in the meantime will do this "ohm" chant.... biggrin.gif
even thou....
"“The new guideline is not the last shoe to drop, or the last piece of bad news,” Li Huiyong, an economist at Shenwan Hongyuan Securities said. “The era of tough financial supervision has just begun.”

will see how and if FSM relocates....

QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Nov 17 2017, 12:59 PM)
bro - repeat after me.. Asset Allocation.. ohm.. Asset Allocation.. ohm.. Asset Allocation.. ohm..

and Asset Allocation is between equities, fixed income + other stuff, not all just "which country/equity fund" 
just in case la, being obvious laugh.gif
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post Dec 3 2017, 10:24 AM

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ending 29 Nov....
on MOM basis, my port dropped 1% where else my Moderately Aggressive managed port dropped 1.5%
BUT,....between Aug and Sept....my DIY port dropped 1.0% where else the Managed port +0.5%
just switched out all my RHBEMF to EI Global Target Income fd (at app. 6.5% of port allocation)

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