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 FundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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Avangelice
post Jun 23 2023, 11:11 AM

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I'm looking to parking my money into a stable fund like fixed income. Which one are you guys investing in? I'm can't stomach the volatility this year
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post Jun 23 2023, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 23 2023, 12:13 PM)
I think this year, ...funds roi are going up for most of my ut funds, much better performance than 2021, 2022....
Hope it last and continue to go up since Covid19 ended..

I am putting some of my need to use money in AH fixed income after exiting my AH equity funds to collect some credit points
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Which AH fixed income may I ask? Been away from UT scene I lost track. BTW all the old guards like xuzen all gone dy I noticed
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post Jul 21 2023, 04:24 PM

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Anyone here not pumping any funds into kenangga Anita fund?
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post Nov 1 2023, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(zebras @ Nov 1 2023, 09:53 AM)
https://www.fsmone.com.my/funds/research/ar...m1-pr?src=funds

is this now the cheapest way to invest in US ETF for long term?

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The cheapest way is still ikbr through Irish domiciled etf. Non Americans who don't have tax treaty with America get 30% tax on div. Irish domiciled get 15%
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post Nov 1 2023, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(zebras @ Nov 1 2023, 11:57 AM)
Is there Irish domiciled etf like SMH?
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https://markets.ft.com/data/etfs/tearsheet/...y?s=SMH:LSE:USD

This?
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post Nov 8 2023, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(abcn1n @ Nov 8 2023, 05:40 PM)
IMHO, this is really a good strategy by FSM Malaysia. It allows small investors to get in and/or people who want to invest very frequently and regularly. RM1  is way better than USD1.
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You need to check how is the dividend tax on the US etfs sold on the platform. Through ramjade and the other guys they pointed out that us etfs are taxed 30%
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post Nov 8 2023, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(abcn1n @ Nov 8 2023, 06:23 PM)
Yes. I know that US ETFs dividends are taxed at 30% vs Irish domiciled 15%. Spread between Irish domiciled ETFs are wider vs US ETFs though, less liquidity, lousier pricing and some may have larger minimum amount /disallow fractional shares.

So ultimately it depends on the person's budget, frequency of trades, the amount size and so  on. For me, I haven't tried a regular plan yet but may be tempted to do it here/partially here.
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I was like you until I got burned by fsm managed portfolio, started to get turned off by fsm and decided to pull all my funds into cspx.

BTW vuaa is the etf that suits what you need. It is Irish domiciled with div reinvestment plus it allows fractional shares.
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post Nov 9 2023, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Nov 9 2023, 12:04 AM)
Brokerage is cheap but you have factor in FX spread 🤦‍♀️
Yes it is cheap but the FX spread is high 🤦‍♀️ that is where is they earn money
Yes US ETF are taxed 30% unless your brokerage is willing to claw back WHT is eligible hence why it is recommended Irish domiciled ETF for tax efficiency
You got burned by their aggressive portfolio is it? 🤦‍♀️

Their portfolio management is inconsistent hence why
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QUOTE(abcn1n @ Nov 9 2023, 12:11 AM)
How did you get burned by FSM (don't need to answer if you don't want to)? Yes, am aware of Vuaa. Guess you prefer Cspx due to the narrower spread.
Dammm...forgot about fx spread. Yeah, most likely not worth it if thinking of the conversion. Thanks for the reminder. Guess FSM regular plan is out then
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Entered in January 2020 with a lump sum and continued to DCA. I would understand it's going bad from the covid pandemic but nearing three years still in the red plus our currency dropping? No Bueno.

QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Nov 9 2023, 12:34 AM)
Well let’s verify with fact
I just tried with FSM cash account
5000MYR I can get 1059.70USD
Wise (if use IBKR you gonna use Wise to convert SGD anyway), I get around 1060.69USD
FSM spread is not that bad and almost on par with WISE per se
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Correction. At the time of writing

Wise 5k myr = 1065.87 usd
FSM 5k myr = 10597.00 usd

I wouldn't say it's on par.

Plus fsm Investment Amount

USD 390.88
Processing Fee USD 3.80
Malaysia Stamp Duty USD 0.43
Total Investment Amount
USD 395.11

We charge Malaysia stamp duty when ikbr doesnt lol

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QUOTE(abcn1n @ Nov 9 2023, 12:38 PM)
Wonder, can we convert 1 huge sum from RM to USD, then slowly/regularly FSM takes from there (the USD converted already) each time its time to invest. If so, can convert 1 shot when the exchange rate is good. Not sure how it works for FSM
I think have to see what funds you invested. If there's China funds or reit funds, then can understand the red figures. 

Err...getting confused. You are converting to USD1k+. How come suddenly got  USD390.88? Also why got processing fee USD3.8? I thought processing fee just RM1?
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That's for usd etf kot? All I know ikbr is the cheapest amongst the rest of the brokers
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post Apr 5 2024, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(chrisderick88 @ Apr 5 2024, 08:20 AM)
check in jap.

lost money in "managed portfolio" from FSM MY on "conservative portfolio". Don't know what crap they're investing in.. probably bonds before fed raise interest rates. lol.
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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 5 2024, 08:48 AM)
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One reason I stopped investing in Fsm except their fixed income funds is the managed portfolio which sucked so much I was in the red for two years straight. Donno what they are doing
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post Apr 12 2024, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(buffa @ Apr 8 2024, 01:38 PM)
I just sold my StashAway not long ago, all red. And bought SG bank stock. Best decision ever, i dont have to keep seeing those red, and the SG bank stock are green now. And at least i can get those cold hard dividend from bank stock, if they ever go red too.
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may I enquire what bank you bought?
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post Apr 12 2024, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Apr 12 2024, 05:18 PM)
Usually people will go for the 3 main bank. DBS, OCBC and UOB
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yeah. I did abit of reading. Ocbc seems to be the right one.


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post Apr 13 2024, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(buffa @ Apr 13 2024, 10:42 AM)
I bought UOB and OCBC, cause not enough for DBS that time.
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Thsnks the heads up bro
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post Apr 16 2024, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(Th3D3vil @ Apr 16 2024, 11:31 AM)
Hi Peeps,

Just would like to get a 2nd opinion

Nearly all my UT has recovered except 1 which are still in the red (China) UT

Considering that it was a slow and painful recovery pre/post Covid, i am now considering to sell all my fund with the war impending.

Appreciate some thoughts or debate on this.

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The reason why most of us have disappeared and this sub is essentially dead as there are better vehicles of investment at much cheaper fees. I don't hold any UT equities any longer
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post Apr 16 2024, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(Th3D3vil @ Apr 16 2024, 02:29 PM)
Thanks for sharing.

Do advice if there are any other vehicles which does provide a better return than UT.
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US etf. No platform fees. No management fees.

Fsm is now entering its twilight years since it has multiple competitors that offer cheaper services. Only caveat is it's easy to put money in fsm and take it out or convert but you pay higher fees for the convenience.

If UT is so good why is the sub dead?
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post Apr 16 2024, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(zebras @ Apr 16 2024, 02:40 PM)
because investing in unit trust is the easiest and brainless way to invest, there is noone to blame except the fund manager .
Fixed it for you
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Apr 17 2024, 08:12 AM)
Appreciate your help in providing examples. But after decades I too have come to understanding that Mutual funds are few and far in between in those able to outperform indices.

1.Principal Islamic Tech-  A very short tenured fund - track record is uncertain. Purely from a returns perspective, yes outperforming index. But frankly you buy any Mag 7 in a basket and you will outperform from 2022 onwards. It was a greatly timed opening. Not to mention the fees you pay Principal for helping you buy the exact same thing from Franklin templeton for much much less fees. This fund is a great rent seeker.

if you want another example - United global tech fund. Super outperform Nasdaq / SPY500 during launch but now is stagnant. Same as ARKK.

2. TA global tech - A favourite, but again just the equivalent of QQQ over 3 years and 5 years and 10 years.

Unless you are looking to trade your unit trust after a year which is weird since you pay what up to 5% in fees, it washes away all your small gains.

Holding it long - you pay 2% fees every year which again cumulates to a lot of fees.
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What he said is exactly why most of us abandon UT. Plus some of the UTs we buy are actually funding another underlying mutual fund which causes a double charge of management fees. Please read your prospectus and platform fees! Last time fsm was popular because not many of us have what we have not. Opening Singapore bank accounts to wise transfers to brokers.
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post Apr 18 2024, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 18 2024, 03:14 PM)
Nooo. That one is special for Moomoo sg only. I think tiger also got access. You cannot open moomoo sg as Malaysian anymore.
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Tiger has this for usd and sgd

I read the fsm product sheet. 90% in iFAST usd account and 10% in usd account where as Tiger broker is Fullerton USD Cash "A” Acc
LionGlobal USD Enhanced Liquidity
CSOP USD Money Market Fund Acc

So fsm pulling another service that feeds into iFAST yet again. Meh

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post Apr 18 2024, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(frankliew @ Apr 18 2024, 03:51 PM)
FSM earn 0.20% pa. Panai.
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Their fees are getting worst compared to their competitors but hey maybe good for their old folks customers who prefer convenience and don't need to open this or that like us
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QUOTE(melondance @ May 12 2024, 07:46 PM)
Now that Wise increased their transfer fee for ACH (USD local to USD international), if FSMOne do let us access LSE ETF (to avoid paying 30% WHT), it wouldn't make much sense to use IBKR anymore...
Furthermore, after doing currency conversion MYR > USD > MYR, it seems like Wise only a tiny bit cheaper than FSMOne.
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Don't forget FSMOne has the highest conversion rate amongst its peers eh. On top of their platform fees

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