Won't recommend unless they insist on pushing framerates on graphics cards at the level of RTX 3070 and above.

I notice most shops bundle ATX and MATX only.

I know, I posted one yesterday already too.

Just saying most of the bundles at MATX / ATX, at least when I was browsing yesterday la.

Very far from having to worry about temperature.

Ryzens typically can run towards the warm side with stock cooler, even towards the low 90c when on full load.

Your reading is nothing to worry of.

Based on my test using Ryzen 5 5600X and various memory settings, IF you're going to buy a high-speed kit and just load XMP, your gains will be so little that I find it pointless.



If you want to gain anything at all from a high-speed kit (or even whatever kit you have) - have to brave yourself to adjust the sub-timings.

Some brands do have really terrible sub-timings, I've seen before how 2 different kit of 3200MHz can be so different.

Details in the video, not the best of subtimings yet.

Mine is Samsung B-Die. So far can do 4000MHz CL18 (or was it CL16) usually I just stay with 3733 CL14.

Yes, ditto to that.

Can you elaborate more on the 5900X part? The single core boost is great?

As for the 5950X - I see that as a productivity oriented processor for one who wants the core counts but not intending to go TR4 route.

tl;dr for performance improvements

- best value is by overclocking the CPU
- best performance by adding sub-timing tweaks on a high speed kit on top of that overclocked CPU.

Any form factor preference?

My experience is like this, for video related works using Davinci Resolve.

Upon testing, my Ryzen 7 1800X is +/- the speed of the Ryzen 5 2600.

I tested Ryzen 5 3600 vs Ryzen 7 2700X as well, the Ryzen 5 3600 edges the 2700X by a bit.

5600X vs 1700? Going to be a world of difference.

Yes I did same test for all.

One thing to note video rendering experience on Davinci Resolve is not the same as like say Blender.

For Blender, 2700X still beats 3600, 1800X still beats 2600.

No doubt, it really varies software to software.

Best stock cooler ever lor, actually it's OK la until your CPU gets higher load then the fella gets noisy.

For a cooler that size the fan is pretty small.

Well anyway, AM5 reviews coming our way in less than an hour.

And so here's my review of the AMD Ryzen 5 7600X in picture form, I recommend viewing it in video form for better understanding of this product : The video link is at https://youtu.be/H2NW7N-pPRE

Basically I like this product a lot, out of the box it's OK but it is very overclockable and I am able to use lowered voltage to keep cool the otherwise rather hot running CPU.

It has onboard graphics too which is a plus point, you can check out the performance in the video.

No price (for Malaysia market) as of now, it will be announced tomorrow night at the AMD Ryzen 7000 launch event.

Yes, that's why when I did my first run I was unimpressed. (as stated in video).

It was until I was doing OC and downvolt where I found it interesting.

Can go DDR5 5200MHz 2x 8GB but do you want to pay twice? Can go B650E board with some wait.

BUT my concern is about gains la, the performance level is that of an i9.

I do feel that they did over-do the power, considering I can go from 4.7GHz base to 5.4GHz base and went from 1.25v to 1.2v and still works fine.

My recommendation is to skip 2 generations for upgrade, or if up 1 generation then have to step up on the CPU rank.

That also see what GPU and reso you're on.

I'm a sucka for stuff that allows me headroom to play.

Sold my i9 to get and i5 for that. Now this one comes.

Out of the box ....... meh, personally I feel my i5-12600K is the better all-rounder, thanks to those E-cores.

BUT the E-cores is not without issue, some benchmarks / games actually result in lower FPS when E-cores enabled. Haven't try Windows 11 though.

Yes but there is a limit.

If your cooler is good enough it will draw until the max limited power draw, and your temperature won't be touching that 95c whatever limit.

Basically

IF power draw not maxed
{
WHILE (temps not yet 95c or power draw not yet maxed) DRAW AS MUCH POWER AS YOU CAN.
}

*crap my programming syntax doesn't work too well here but you get the drift.

Totally loving my Ryzen 5 7600. OC already then UV some more, runs at sub 60c on CBR23 using 360mm AIO.

Buy my 12600K.