Oil Life : 3262km (3 hour blotter) - 17 Nov 2019
ODO : 180322 km
Car model: Toyota Prius 1.8L
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Blotter Spot Test Oil Analysis:VOA Helix HX7 5W30, 16,286 km blotter Shell Helix Ultra 5W40
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Sep 2 2020, 06:20 PM
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Sep 3 2020, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(abubin @ Sep 2 2020, 06:20 PM) Toyota Oil 0w20 fully syn SN GF-5 Hi bro,Oil Life : 3262km (3 hour blotter) - 17 Nov 2019 ODO : 180322 km Car model: Toyota Prius 1.8L Typically this 3262 km TGMO 0W20 SN blotter spot has no structures like darkened centre zone, darkened perimeter ring/aureole etc which is good news as it indicates low levels of contaminants and excellent capability in its detergency/dispersancy properties . No jagged darkened edge shown . Halo of fuel dilution seems absent despite this Prius being a hybrid (?) . If this is hybrid , approximately how many percent of this 3262 km usage was run on engine ? IMO, this used oil is in serviceable condition and properly fit for many thousands of km continuing service . This post has been edited by zeng: Sep 3 2020, 11:17 AM |
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Sep 3 2020, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(abubin @ Sep 2 2020, 06:13 PM) Mizu 5w30 fully syn Like to seek some clarification whether this Mizu oil you sourced from shopee/lazada/Tesco ?Oil Life : 2582km (3 hour blotter) - 2 Dec 2019 ODO : 196252 km Car model: Perodua Myvi 1.3L [attachmentid=10571061] .... and whether it is the same as this Mizu ? This post has been edited by zeng: Aug 26 2021, 11:39 AM |
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Sep 3 2020, 12:26 PM
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Any idea why doing this ? how to see the result to determine good engine oil or the car engine condition ? please enlighten me & thanks
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Sep 3 2020, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(babygrand123 @ Sep 3 2020, 12:26 PM) Any idea why doing this ? how to see the result to determine good engine oil or the car engine condition ? please enlighten me & thanks Have a read on the link :Blotter Spot Test Helps Improve Engine Reliability from Post # 1 of this thread . The other 14 links are provided at the bottom of the Post for further reading on this subject of Blotter Spot Test . One may wonder why there is so much talks/advertisements about Used Oil Analysis and none about Blotter Spot Test . The answer is there is no $$$ to be made from promoting Blotter Spot Tests which are cost-free ! This post has been edited by zeng: Sep 3 2020, 12:54 PM |
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Sep 3 2020, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(zeng @ Sep 3 2020, 11:15 AM) Hi bro, Yes, this is a hybrid car. Unfortunately there are no stats to show how many percent of the mileage are using battery vs ICE. I will be changing this soon to Aisin evotech+ as I do not want to keep the oil for too long in the car.Typically this 3262 km TGMO 0W20 SN blotter spot has no structures like darkened centre zone, darkened perimeter ring/aureole etc which is good news as it indicates low levels of contaminants and excellent capability in its detergency/dispersancy properties . No jagged darkened edge shown . Halo of fuel dilution seems absent despite this Prius being a hybrid (?) . If this is hybrid , approximately how many percent of this 3262 km usage was run on engine ? IMO, this used oil is in serviceable condition and properly fit for many thousands of km continuing service . QUOTE(zeng @ Sep 3 2020, 11:21 AM) Like to seek some clarification whether this Mizu oil you sourced from shopee/lazada/Tesco ? This Mizu oil is bought from official Mizu store in Lazada. Same as the your link..... and whether it is the same as this Mizu ? This post has been edited by abubin: Sep 3 2020, 04:19 PM |
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Sep 3 2020, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(abubin @ Sep 3 2020, 04:19 PM) Yes, this is a hybrid car. Unfortunately there are no stats to show how many percent of the mileage are using battery vs ICE. I will be changing this soon to Aisin evotech+ as I do not want to keep the oil for too long in the car. TGMO 0W20 is recommended by Toyota U.S. for 10,000 miles (16,000 km) oci for non-hybrid Camry with very superb UOA . I don't see why it can't do well for 15,000 km usage in a hybrid . QUOTE This official Mizu (sourced from Lazada) has displayed its Product Data Sheet in the above link . It has a HTHS of 3.7 cP suitable for more demanding ACEA A3B4/C3 specs with appropriate OEM approvals where base oils are concerned .Its blotter spot image is quite close to that of TGMO 0W20 , but with very much robust base oils although its additive package appears to be not that of ACEA and Euro OEM requirements . This post has been edited by zeng: Sep 3 2020, 11:01 PM |
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Sep 4 2020, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(zeng @ Sep 3 2020, 11:00 PM) TGMO 0W20 is recommended by Toyota U.S. for 10,000 miles (16,000 km) oci for non-hybrid Camry with very superb UOA . So, it's okay to keep using the oil despite it being more than 8 months old? Mileage are both like less than 4k km...LOL...I don't see why it can't do well for 15,000 km usage in a hybrid . This official Mizu (sourced from Lazada) has displayed its Product Data Sheet in the above link . It has a HTHS of 3.7 cP suitable for more demanding ACEA A3B4/C3 specs with appropriate OEM approvals where base oils are concerned . Its blotter spot image is quite close to that of TGMO 0W20 , but with very much robust base oils although its additive package appears to be not that of ACEA and Euro OEM requirements . |
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Sep 10 2020, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(abubin @ Sep 4 2020, 03:45 PM) So, it's okay to keep using the oil despite it being more than 8 months old? Mileage are both like less than 4k km...LOL... The blotter spot test of this Mizu 5W30 clearly demonstrates this 2582 km used oil has very low level of combustion contaminants and close to brand new levels of detergency/dispersancy performance .You may cross confirm its fitness of continuing service with a Used Oil Analysis at RM2XX , which I consider as not value for money and redundant . 8 months or > 12 months used oil is not a valid basis of rejecting/replacing used oils as often propagated out of fear of unknown or parroting/repeating others' opinion piece from time to time . Note: Sorry for delayed response during 1 week outstation absence . This post has been edited by zeng: Sep 10 2020, 07:41 PM |
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Sep 17 2020, 10:55 AM
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Sep 17 2020, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Sep 17 2020, 10:55 AM) Honda City GM2 year 2009 Hi bro ,Current Odo : 131,824KM Date: 16/09/2020 Blotter time : 12:00am (picture after 34hrs) oil age : 10,006km Engine oil used : Amsoil Signature Series 5w30 ![]() Excellent 10K km blotter spot of Amsoil SS 5W30 in a 2009 Honda City GM2 .This engine condition seems to be well maintained . There is absence of darkened centre zone ( of about 8 mm diameter size in actual sample ) indicating absence of agglomeration of combustion contaminants after 10K km usage . There is also absence of darkened perimeter ring/ aureole zone surrounding the centre zone indicating high capability of used oil dispersancy and detergency performance . It is observed this 10K km Amsoil SS 5W30 blotter is said to be lacking in 'structures' which is good news in its capacity for continuing service and generally the diffusion zone is of slight brownish and transparent and not darkish/grayish . It seems this blotter has no darkened and jagged edge external to diffusion zone and it is quite free of water moisture . Outermost zone is not showing a translucent halo indicating absence of fuel dilution problem in this used oil sample . Btw, IIRC this Amsoil SS oil is claimed to be good for 15000 -20,000 miles in U.S. , conditions apply . This post has been edited by zeng: Sep 17 2020, 05:36 PM 90Boyz liked this post
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QUOTE(zeng @ Sep 17 2020, 05:26 PM) Hi bro , Hi Bro Zeng,Excellent 10K km blotter spot of Amsoil SS 5W30 in a 2009 Honda City GM2 .This engine condition seems to be well maintained . There is absence of darkened centre zone ( of about 8 mm diameter size in actual sample ) indicating absence of agglomeration of combustion contaminants after 10K km usage . There is also absence of darkened perimeter ring/ aureole zone surrounding the centre zone indicating high capability of used oil dispersancy and detergency performance . It is observed this 10K km Amsoil SS 5W30 blotter is said to be lacking in 'structures' which is good news in its capacity for continuing service and generally the diffusion zone is of slight brownish and transparent and not darkish/grayish . It seems this blotter has no jagged edge external to diffusion zone and it is quite free of water moisture . Outermost zone is not showing a translucent halo indicating absence of fuel dilution problem in this used oil sample . Btw, IIRC this Amsoil SS oil is claimed to be good for 15000 -20,000 miles in U.S. , conditions apply . Thanks for the details explanations, will continue use another 5k to do the blotter test again |
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Sep 17 2020, 05:42 PM
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Sep 22 2020, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE(zeng @ Sep 2 2020, 01:13 PM) Mobil 1 New Life 0W40 (Tesco) MB229.5 72 hour blotter Oil Life : 12,367 km (72 hour blotter) ODO :306,197 km in Car model: Toyota Avanza 1.3L Engine: K3VE Multi Port Injection Added some 100 mL of graphited engine oil https://forum.lowyat.net/uploads//attach-2/...-1599022925.jpg Mobil 1 New Life 0W40 (Tesco) MB229.5 Oil Life : 15,795 km (72 hour blotter) ODO :309,625 km in Car model: Toyota Avanza 1.3L Engine: K3VE Multi Port Injection Added some 100 mL of graphited engine oil in Elf Molygraphite 15W50 . Absence of structures such as darkened centre zone , darkened perimeter ring/aureole and outermost translucent zone which means good news for the used oil . Diffussion zone is grayish but not darkened yet and , darkened jagged starbursts edge indicates presence of water moisture which theoretically promotes corrosion wear which IMO, is harmless for now by looking at the blotter spot . Meanwhile ................. keeps going . This post has been edited by zeng: Sep 23 2020, 12:38 PM |
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QUOTE(zeng @ Sep 22 2020, 12:54 PM) 72 hour blotter added ELF Molygraphite engine oil ?Mobil 1 New Life 0W40 (Tesco) MB229.5 Oil Life : 15,795 km (72 hour blotter) ODO :309,625 km in Car model: Toyota Avanza 1.3L Engine: K3VE Multi Port Injection Added some 100 mL of graphited engine oil Absence of structures such as darkened centre zone , darkened perimeter ring/aureole and outermost translucent zone which means good news for the used oil . Diffussion zone is grayish but not darkened yet and , darkened jagged starbursts edge indicates presence of water moisture which theoretically promotes corrosion wear which IMO, is harmless for now by looking at the blotter spot . Meanwhile ................. keeps going . |
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Sep 23 2020, 07:14 AM
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QUOTE(zeng @ Sep 23 2020, 07:14 AM) Somehow I felt good with this mixing , engine seems smoother and quieter than without and ,likes its blotter spot performance so far despite Covid-19 MCO . QUOTE(90Boyz @ Sep 23 2020, 10:09 AM) Just curious. Why not LM MOS2? Been happily using this for over 10 years (I only add one-third bottle every lube change).Attached image(s) |
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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Sep 23 2020, 11:59 AM) I tried L.M Ceratec or L.M MoS2 Leichtlauf in the past also can't came close with my Amsoil Signature performance .. Must be the graphite but am wary as don't know if it is fine enough not to block the oil channels and/or oil filters. also my 2cents Confident in LM MOS2 as read extensively on Bob Is The Oil Guy that the MOS2 used are fine enough to not block these. |
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